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Others, especially those around the world (that are allowed to do so) have no qualms protesting against symbols of their own Govt or country when it is failing it’s citizens, or there is an inequality perceived to be taking place with no-little appetite for change.
You are not going to understand this, but America is different. Here you don’t protest the National Anthem or burn the flag.
I somehow find this incredibly ironic.
Whatever it is supposed to be, it is shit.
Warb’s hottest take in this thread. Don’t disrespect Bob and David.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_desecration
On the subject of national anthems, The Star-Spangled Banner sounds pretty epic, which is fitting because America likes to think of itself as an extraordinarily epic country. God Save the Queen sounds kind of lame to me.
For those of us in the UK who don’t believe in God - or wish for the Royal Family as an idea to come to an end, it is very lame.
Why would/should God save the Queen? Why should he? Shouldn’t he save all of us? There is an inference there that promotes the Queen above the citizen.
Plus, it is quite a depressing turgid tune too.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34268442 - Why some people don’t sing the national anthem
Technically, the monarch gets its power from God (supposedly), so I guess that’s the reasoning there.
Aye, the Church and the then-State inventing and re-inforcing their self importance and power over the people, and it’s continuation - of sorts - to the present day…
I much prefer to remember…
from a certain point of view, of course…
The problem is, when you are talking about the stealing of land and property and whatnot with the Royal Family, you are talking about events that happened hundreds if not a thousand years ago.
Is it part of what the Royals (and/or those in power) represent / symbolise to this day - not just hundreds of years ago.
nonetheless the people that actually stole the land and property are long dead. The Royals of today basically don’t have any real power.
What Ryan McAvoy says, plus it not about their power literally - it is more about their place in the modern society and for the future. They considerable money they receive in handouts, subsidies and not paying taxes like everyone else - despite having substantial personal fortunes (often off the backs ‘being’ a Royal), lands, homes & invetments etc - all the while people are on the poverty line, foodbanks use is in the millions and there is shortage of land/homes for the young/poor.
The actual concept of being born in to a life of privilege such as this - not being meritocratic, and how to change/adapt this over time.
The previous PM of the UK made a big statement of ‘us all being in it together’ after the financial meltdown of 07/08 and the affects of unnecessary and enforced austerity since. Unfortunately it turned out the poor are all in it together suffering - whilst the rich and powerful - they were all ok, to the point of benefiting from it…
The gap between rich and poor has significantly increased, even working people are using foodbanks as they struggle to makes ends meet as wages have been kept low by companies whose profits still increase…
It’s an uncomfortable focal point for inequality here, many still love, like, admire the Royals - whether the tradition or on a ‘personal’ level - yet there is a growing realisation that this concept really does need to adapt to survive.
I, myself, prefer them to be amabassadors for the country in a time of change for them - though would also like to see them due taxes, sell off or lease off some lands, houses for the benefit of the public purse, and have them pay greater share for their way out of their personal fortune instead of those from the taxpayer, as well as the stopping of subsidies such as the £370m given to them to repair Buckingham Palace, the £37m to repair the Windosr Castle after it’s fire in 1992, and the £27m in a face-lift for the same castle a couple of years ago - as a few high profile examples…
A new anthem - for a more modern inclusive-Britain to aspire to the present or future would be most welcome too…
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Once again, since we’re on the subject of disrespecting American symbols, I have to post this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njIhIwSqt-g
and this:
I could only watch a view seconds of that shit, the guy is an asshole.
Lol, I know sarcasm isn’t your strong suit, but come on man. It’s a comedy show.
Hilarious,. Thanks for sharing. I wish I could find full episodes of mr. show
Once again, since we’re on the subject of disrespecting American symbols, I have to post this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njIhIwSqt-g
and this:
I could only watch a view seconds of that shit, the guy is an asshole.
Lol, I know sarcasm isn’t your strong suit, but come on man. It’s a comedy show.
Hilarious,. Thanks for sharing. I wish I could find full episodes of mr. show
https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Show-Complete-Collection-DVD/dp/B000CQQID0
$25 for the full 30 (?) episode run. Well worth it. It’s possibly the best sketch show of all time.
Whatever it is supposed to be, it is shit.
Warb’s hottest take in this thread. Don’t disrespect Bob and David.
You are not going to understand this, but America is different. Here you don’t disrespect Bob and David.
Whatever it is supposed to be, it is shit.
Ironic, because if you had bothered to watch the whole thing, you’d discover that the Founding Fathers designed the flag with the specific colors to make it psychologically impossible for anyone to shit on the flag, thus protecting it from desecration. In fact you could say the entire sketch is quite supportive of your position. But you’re too overemotional about the whole thing to realize it.
You guys are accusing Warbler of fetishization of The Star Spangled Banner, but what I want to know is, why is it such a big deal to you that it’s such a big deal to Warbler?
I don’t know, maybe it’s because he keeps bringing it up?
Once again, since we’re on the subject of disrespecting American symbols, I have to post this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njIhIwSqt-g
and this:
I could only watch a view seconds of that shit, the guy is an asshole.
Lol, I know sarcasm isn’t your strong suit, but come on man. It’s a comedy show.
Hilarious,. Thanks for sharing. I wish I could find full episodes of mr. show
https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Show-Complete-Collection-DVD/dp/B000CQQID0
$25 for the full 30 (?) episode run. Well worth it. It’s possibly the best sketch show of all time.
Thanks. I feel like I was looking for this a few months ago and couldn’t find it. Or maybe I just gave up after trying to figure out if a Blu-ray release was ever going to happen.
Even better, there’s another one for $16 for some reason.
Also if you haven’t watched With Bob and David on Netflix please do so.
fuck you awesome, I was able to cancel the first order, and get this one instead.
I also need some toothpaste and granola bars. If you have time. 😉
Also if you haven’t watched With Bob and David on Netflix please do so.
I did. It was ok, I like the bits of their old sketches that I have seen on YouTube better I think.
fuck youawesome, I was able to cancel the first order, and get this one instead.I also need some toothpaste and granola bars. If you have time. 😉
I was able to cancel the first order
Better let the resistance know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_desecration
On the subject of national anthems, The Star-Spangled Banner sounds pretty epic, which is fitting because America likes to think of itself as an extraordinarily epic country. God Save the Queen sounds kind of lame to me.
For those of us in the UK who don’t believe in God - or wish for the Royal Family as an idea to come to an end, it is very lame.
Why would/should God save the Queen? Why should he? Shouldn’t he save all of us? There is an inference there that promotes the Queen above the citizen.
Plus, it is quite a depressing turgid tune too.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34268442 - Why some people don’t sing the national anthem
Technically, the monarch gets its power from God (supposedly), so I guess that’s the reasoning there.
Aye, the Church and the then-State inventing and re-inforcing their self importance and power over the people, and it’s continuation - of sorts - to the present day…
I much prefer to remember…
from a certain point of view, of course…
The problem is, when you are talking about the stealing of land and property and whatnot with the Royal Family, you are talking about events that happened hundreds if not a thousand years ago.
Is it part of what the Royals (and/or those in power) represent / symbolise to this day - not just hundreds of years ago.
nonetheless the people that actually stole the land and property are long dead. The Royals of today basically don’t have any real power.
What Ryan McAvoy says, plus it not about their power literally - it is more about their place in the modern society and for the future. They considerable money they receive in handouts, subsidies and not paying taxes like everyone else - despite having substantial personal fortunes (often off the backs ‘being’ a Royal), lands, homes & invetments etc - all the while people are on the poverty line, foodbanks use is in the millions and there is shortage of land/homes for the young/poor.
The actual concept of being born in to a life of privilege such as this - not being meritocratic, and how to change/adapt this over time.
The previous PM of the UK made a big statement of ‘us all being in it together’ after the financial meltdown of 07/08 and the affects of unnecessary and enforced austerity since. Unfortunately it turned out the poor are all in it together suffering - whilst the rich and powerful - they were all ok, to the point of benefiting from it…
The gap between rich and poor has significantly increased, even working people are using foodbanks as they struggle to makes ends meet as wages have been kept low by companies whose profits still increase…
It’s an uncomfortable focal point for inequality here, many still love, like, admire the Royals - whether the tradition or on a ‘personal’ level - yet there is a growing realisation that this concept really does need to adapt to survive.
I, myself, prefer them to be amabassadors for the country in a time of change for them - though would also like to see them due taxes, sell off or lease off some lands, houses for the benefit of the public purse, and have them pay greater share for their way out of their personal fortune instead of those from the taxpayer, as well as the stopping of subsidies such as the £370m given to them to repair Buckingham Palace, the £37m to repair the Windosr Castle after it’s fire in 1992, and the £27m in a face-lift for the same castle a couple of years ago - as a few high profile examples…
A new anthem - for a more modern inclusive-Britain to aspire to the present or future would be most welcome too…
Just remember, you could strip them of everything and make them paupers, but the poor will still be with us. If you want to take more power from them, you’ll get no objection from me. However, if you take enough power from them, they might be able to validly argue that they should have the right to vote.
As for the repairs to Buckingham Palace, and Windsor Castle, may I remind you that they are both historic buildings, maybe for than, and not for the Royals, they should be preserved.
As for a change in the Anthem, Jerusalem was mentioned, the only problem I see with that is that it is named after a city that is not in the UK. Jerusalem is in Israel. That is like America using an Anthem named “Paris”. It seems odd to me.
You guys are accusing Warbler of fetishization of The Star Spangled Banner, but what I want to know is, why is it such a big deal to you that it’s such a big deal to Warbler?
Why do you have to constantly berate him for holding the flag and/or the anthem sacred and believing that others ought to do the same? Let the man have his opinion. Dang.
You make no effort to understand why Warbler feels the way he does, nor lend any weight to a possibility that his position might have merit. You just want to prove him wrong, as though such a thing were possible in a subjective topic like this, by making him explain himself until he can’t think of a strong enough rebuttal.
Thankyou, Chyron8472.
Whatever it is supposed to be, it is shit.
Ironic, because if you had bothered to watch the whole thing, you’d discover that the Founding Fathers designed the flag with the specific colors to make it psychologically impossible for anyone to shit on the flag, thus protecting it from desecration. In fact you could say the entire sketch is quite supportive of your position. But you’re too overemotional about the whole thing to realize it.
All I know is what I saw in the first few minutes. That was enough for me.
nvm
Whatever it is supposed to be, it is shit.
Ironic, because if you had bothered to watch the whole thing, you’d discover that the Founding Fathers designed the flag with the specific colors to make it psychologically impossible for anyone to shit on the flag, thus protecting it from desecration. In fact you could say the entire sketch is quite supportive of your position. But you’re too overemotional about the whole thing to realize it.
All I know is what I saw in the first few minutes. That was enough for me.
Way to go warb. Ignore the entire thing based on your first impression of a minute part of it that was satire. Murica.
You make no effort to understand why Warbler feels the way he does,
Why do you care so much about a kneel?
What is so insulting to you about kneeling?
People raising awareness in a manner deemed undesirable to you takes prevalence over the cause itself?
…something you hold to be sacred…
But why?
Am I not a “true” American because I don’t revere the flag as a ‘holy’ object?
Whatever it is supposed to be, it is shit.
Ironic, because if you had bothered to watch the whole thing, you’d discover that the Founding Fathers designed the flag with the specific colors to make it psychologically impossible for anyone to shit on the flag, thus protecting it from desecration. In fact you could say the entire sketch is quite supportive of your position. But you’re too overemotional about the whole thing to realize it.
All I know is what I saw in the first few minutes. That was enough for me.
Way to go warb. Ignore the entire thing based on your first impression of a minute part of it that was satire. Murica.
*sigh*
Whatever it is supposed to be, it is shit.
Ironic, because if you had bothered to watch the whole thing, you’d discover that the Founding Fathers designed the flag with the specific colors to make it psychologically impossible for anyone to shit on the flag, thus protecting it from desecration. In fact you could say the entire sketch is quite supportive of your position. But you’re too overemotional about the whole thing to realize it.
All I know is what I saw in the first few minutes. That was enough for me.
Way to go warb. Ignore the entire thing based on your first impression of a minute part of it that was satire. Murica.
*sigh*
That’s pretty much what I posted before I changed it to “nvm” though. Why don’t you try watching the second video?
I watched the first few moments of it already. It seemed like more of the same from the 1st video.
I guess humor is not for everybody.
