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darth_ender said:

I wonder if there are any good Republicans or good Republican ideas.

I’m pretty sure the number of good Republicans in Congress can now be counted on one hand minus a few fingers.

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Donald Trump is a shitty, shitty person. It’s been proven time and again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/trump-seeks-sharp-cuts-to-housing-aid-except-for-program-that-brings-him-millions/2017/06/20/bf1fb2b8-5531-11e7-ba90-f5875b7d1876_story.html?utm_term=.a11cf6a097d1

President Trump’s budget calls for sharply reducing funding for programs that shelter the poor and combat homelessness — with a notable exception: It leaves intact a type of federal housing subsidy that is paid directly to private landlords.

One of those landlords is Trump himself, who earns millions of dollars each year as a part-owner of Starrett City, the nation’s largest subsidized housing complex. Trump’s 4 percent stake in the Brooklyn complex earned him at least $5 million between January of last year and April 15, according to his recent financial disclosure.

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TV’s Frink said:

I like how I’m the jerk even though you’re the one trivializing people who have actual real problems, as opposed to being annoyed by an acronym.

As though /everyone/ does not have actual real problems, and that if someone is annoyed by something fairly trivial it gives you grounds to be rude. Plus, wishing that a community had a way to identify themselves that was easier to say and not ever-changing does not trivialize or marginalize them.

Hahaha, I didn’t realize showing compassion for people who have difficulties is considered an elitist attitude. I’ll try harder to be more mean going forward.

You’re not showing compassion for people who have difficulties. You’re being an ass. Your comments here have zero effect on improving any issues they may have.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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Alright, I was probably a little harsh, so I apologize.

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I wish it wasn’t even an issue, THEY ARE NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS.

ETA: I only meant this comment as an aside, not complaining about any posters or anything like that, just wanted to post my once in a while opinion. Peace out.

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darth_ender said:

I wonder if there are any good Republicans or good Republican ideas.

My opinion of Jon Huntsman (once my standard for how far right you could go while remaining decent) has taken a nosedive, Evan McMullin is still in the “not sure if good or delusional” category, Justin Amash seems decent. I know a number of Republicans in my area who are really torn up about the rise of white supremacists in the Republican Party–like their family home has been taken over by squatters, and people keep asking them why they don’t just move out. Because it’s their house! But of course my take on this is that they were perfectly happy with the squatters in their house as long as they stayed in the basement out of sight. And now the metaphor has gone on too long.

Good Republican ideas: I was initially pretty skeptical of Obamacare, but it turns out to have worked well enough, so that’s one good Republican idea. I would have been much happier with Nixon’s healthcare plan, so that’s another one that didn’t make it. Nixon’s negative income tax (which was also never implemented) was an excellent social-science-research-backed welfare reform idea that would have made Bill Clinton’s welfare reform look like a Dickensian nightmare, and an expensive one at that. The EPA and OSHA were good Republican ideas. Teddy Roosevelt’s anti-trust enforcement was laudable.

On the non-policy side of things, I have a great deal of respect for Chief Justice Earl Warren, who was a Republican. And while I pretty much think of Goldwater as the epitome of the right-twice-a-day clock of libertarian Republicanism, I have to wholeheartedly endorse his statement: “Every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass.”

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darth_ender said:

I wonder if there are any good Republicans or good Republican ideas.

I think there are a few, but they are obscured by the all the bad Republican ideas and all the bad Republicans.

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oojason said:

Grenfell Tower will forever stand as a rebuke to the right

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/16/grenfell-tower-rebuke-right-rampant-inequality

^ this is well worth a read.

I thought it was unaffordable and pointless green energy initiatives and the “progressive” outfits that peddle them that were the cause of this.

“The Right”, left to itself, never would have placed immigrants in that situation.

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thejediknighthusezni said:

oojason said:

Grenfell Tower will forever stand as a rebuke to the right

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/16/grenfell-tower-rebuke-right-rampant-inequality

^ this is well worth a read.

I thought it was unaffordable and pointless green energy initiatives and the “progressive” outfits that peddle them that were the cause of this.

“The Right”, left to itself, never would have placed immigrants in that situation.

No.

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yhwx said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

oojason said:

Grenfell Tower will forever stand as a rebuke to the right

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/16/grenfell-tower-rebuke-right-rampant-inequality

^ this is well worth a read.

I thought it was unaffordable and pointless green energy initiatives and the “progressive” outfits that peddle them that were the cause of this.

“The Right”, left to itself, never would have placed immigrants in that situation.

No.

Imagine if The West took a small fraction of what it spends on social services for immigrants and spent it on the essential factors for uplifting their home countries.

Send young attorneys dedicated to Rule of Law and effective commercial codes to reform and establish their legal systems and protect property rights, underwrite financial lending to truly promising private development companies and school loans for genuinely promising private professionals and entrepreneurs, help with infrastructure finance, contraceptives for achieving first-world levels of birth control…

Nah, much better to import third worlders who have no understanding or desire for the elements that made The West great and good and then spend society to collapse. Everybody gets more socialist totalitarianism and green energy initiatives that way.

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yhwx said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

oojason said:

Grenfell Tower will forever stand as a rebuke to the right

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/16/grenfell-tower-rebuke-right-rampant-inequality

^ this is well worth a read.

I thought it was unaffordable and pointless green energy initiatives and the “progressive” outfits that peddle them that were the cause of this.

“The Right”, left to itself, never would have placed immigrants in that situation.

No.

We’re gonna need a bigger No.

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CatBus said:

yhwx said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

oojason said:

Grenfell Tower will forever stand as a rebuke to the right

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/16/grenfell-tower-rebuke-right-rampant-inequality

^ this is well worth a read.

I thought it was unaffordable and pointless green energy initiatives and the “progressive” outfits that peddle them that were the cause of this.

“The Right”, left to itself, never would have placed immigrants in that situation.

No.

We’re gonna need a bigger No.

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thejediknighthusezni said:

oojason said:

Grenfell Tower will forever stand as a rebuke to the right

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/16/grenfell-tower-rebuke-right-rampant-inequality

^ this is well worth a read.

I thought it was unaffordable and pointless green energy initiatives and the “progressive” outfits that peddle them that were the cause of this.

“The Right”, left to itself, never would have placed immigrants in that situation.

No.

 

‘Grenfell Tower fire: Up to 600 high-rise blocks using similar cladding’…

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-latest-600-high-rise-apartment-blocks-same-combustible-cladding-councils-estimate-a7802406.html

Austerity forced on the poor, disabled, voiceless, vulnerable, unemployed, ignored and the often forgot about - regardless of colour, ethnicity, religion, sex, or employment status - is finally being seen for what it actually is, 7 years and countless lives too late.

Let alone austerity on the emergency services, NHS, local councils, schools, libraries, parks, armed forces, intelligence services.

It’ll take years to recover from - even if it were started to be reversed today - but hopefully people will remember how austerity failed - and the true cost of it’s impact, both on people and services, for years to come…

 

In other news…

‘Tory Government’s benefit cap is unlawful and causes ‘real misery for no good purpose’, High Court rules’…

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/benefit-cap-judicial-review-welfare-payments-government-loses-lawsuit-court-case-judge-misery-a7802286.html

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To me it looks like the effects of deregulation. More specifically, under-funding agencies charged with enforcing regulations so that greedy business tycoons can get richer and the poor end up taking the consequence.

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Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

To me it looks like the effects of deregulation. More specifically, under-funding agencies charged with enforcing regulations so that greedy business tycoons can get richer and the poor end up taking the consequence.

Indeed mate…

‘David Cameron: I will kill off safety culture’… (with video at time of him being Prime Minister in 2012)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-i-will-kill-off-safety-culture-6285238.html

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Zomg! It’s happening!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/22/politics/senate-health-care-bill/index.html

The closely guarded Senate health care bill written entirely behind closed doors finally became public Thursday in a do-or-die moment for the Republican Party’s winding efforts to repeal Obamacare.

The unveiling of the legislation marks the first time that the majority of the Senate GOP conference gets a comprehensive look at the health care proposal. With Majority Leader Mitch McConnell pressing ahead for a vote next week, senators are likely to have only a handful of days to decide whether to support or vote against the bill.

A draft circulating late Wednesday showed the Senate legislation would still make major changes to the nation’s health care system, drastically cut back on federal support of Medicaid, and eliminate Obamacare’s taxes on the wealthy, insurers and others. The Senate plan however would keep Obamacare’s subsidies to help people pay for individual coverage.

McConnell’s decision to keep the details tightly under wraps until Thursday was intentional and aimed at winning over his colleagues out of the public spotlight, but the secretive process has infuriated Democrats – and aggravated plenty of Republicans, too.

Oh.

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oojason said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

oojason said:

Grenfell Tower will forever stand as a rebuke to the right

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/16/grenfell-tower-rebuke-right-rampant-inequality

^ this is well worth a read.

I thought it was unaffordable and pointless green energy initiatives and the “progressive” outfits that peddle them that were the cause of this.

“The Right”, left to itself, never would have placed immigrants in that situation.

No.

 

‘Grenfell Tower fire: Up to 600 high-rise blocks using similar cladding’…

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-latest-600-high-rise-apartment-blocks-same-combustible-cladding-councils-estimate-a7802406.html

Austerity forced on the poor, disabled, voiceless, vulnerable, unemployed, ignored and the often forgot about - regardless of colour, ethnicity, religion, sex, or employment status - is finally being seen for what it actually is, 7 years and countless lives too late.

Let alone austerity on the emergency services, NHS, local councils, schools, libraries, parks, armed forces, intelligence services.

It’ll take years to recover from - even if it were started to be reversed today - but hopefully people will remember how austerity failed - and the true cost of it’s impact, both on people and services, for years to come…

 

In other news…

‘Tory Government’s benefit cap is unlawful and causes ‘real misery for no good purpose’, High Court rules’…

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/benefit-cap-judicial-review-welfare-payments-government-loses-lawsuit-court-case-judge-misery-a7802286.html

Lefties really have a problem with the concept of U-N-A-F-F-O-R-D-A-B-L-E and W-O-R-S-E T-H-A-N U-S-E-L-E-S-S LEFTY initiatives.

There would be no need for austerity without that nonsense.

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thejediknighthusezni said:

Lefties really have a problem with the concept of U-N-A-F-F-O-R-D-A-B-L-E and W-O-R-S-E T-H-A-N U-S-E-L-E-S-S LEFTY initiatives.

There would be no need for austerity without that nonsense.

If JUST Amazon paid the same tax as I did when I bill my customers, they would owe an extra 1 billion tax every year in the UK alone. Across the last 7 years, that is more than equal to the cuts in the UK Defence budget. I assume if Amazon’s offices were subject to the kind of terrorist attacks we’ve seen in recent weeks (gods forbid) they’d want the UK Government to do something about it… free of charge?

It’s not the scroungers at the bottom that are the problem, it’s the scroungers at the top.

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Warbler said:

darth_ender said:

I wonder if there are any good Republicans or good Republican ideas.

I think there are a few, but they are obscured by the all the bad Republican ideas and all the bad Republicans.

I certainly don’t consider myself aligned with establishment Republican “thought”, but I’ll give it a go…

HEALTH CARE: Establish accounts within the Medicare system supposedly holding $10,000 each, pay individuals $200 a month for not draining their accounts, they must recharge accounts to $10,000 whenever drained to pay qualified providers, convert rest of Medicare to 80/20 catastrophic, convert gov’t health facilities to private NPOs that must self-sustain thereafter, pay for it with monies from all private and gov’t health care spending and a surtax and $140 a month charge to speed recharging accounts.

TAXATION: A 20% VAT introduced 2-3% per year with ALL the revenue going to wipe-out all state and local taxes. Fed income tax replaces revenue for the states and localities with the states placing a surcharge on the fed income tax to cover deficits and increased spending. If states or localities try to raise own taxes, twice the amount of revenue will be deducted from fed receipts. All taxes Federal.

IMMIGRATION: Give all illegals $10,000+ for voluntarily going home with a fraction of the money for gov’t services paid for keeping them here long-term. New illegals get no payment and are immediately deported to camps in Honduras until they can be returned to home countries. The money subsidizing college for foreigners spent in home countries for English and educating truly helpful professionals. No student visas except advanced degrees especially helpful to society. All temp visas must have money in account for return trip and bonded for bounty hunters if they don’t leave when they should. Establish a guest worker program with Mexico for up to three years for jobs that cannot be filled reasonably by citizens.

DRUGS: Of the options, current efforts or legalization or the China solution or clinics where addicts get what they want, establish clinics where adult addicts can get a less than dangerous dose of what they want in sex segregated rooms on clinic chairs with videos and literature for overcoming their problems. Must pass sobriety test or have responsible adult pick-up to leave. Draconian punishment for pushing on kids or trafficking outside the system. escalating punishment for any abuse outside the clinics.

EDUCATION: Raise age of majority to 21 with exceptions for vocation school and auto loans, 20 year olds same as 17 otherwise. Court emancipation 16-21 for those few with need and capability. 17-21 focused on vocational training including advanced professions. Eliminate ALL public education for those under 11. Replace with testing every four months for achievement to certain levels fines for failure to achieve. $20,0000 tax credits regardless of number of children under 11 to cohabiting parents one gainfully employed other home educating and caring for children, paid to caregiver. $7,000 for qualified child care if both gainfully employed. “Mom’s day” once a week children of same gender and age supervised socialization. Program to identify 4-8 prodigies in music and mathematics and get them to subsidized schooling. 11-17years old school runs 11am-5:30pm 6 months October-Thursday before Easter. Courses focused on what they will ALL require as adult citizens Practical Mathematics-English Language Skills-Driving-Social Studies-Personal Finances and Employment-SEX EDUCATION FOCUSED ON DOUBLE CONTRACEPTION AND THE HORRIBLE COSTS OF UNWED PREGNANCY… 11-17 optional gender segregated personal interest clubs Easter-early October for Athletics-STEM-Music-Fine Arts-Languages…

I could go on. The difficulty is not in finding solutions. It’s the Demican-Republocrat establishment Uniparty and it’s activist interests and puppet-masters. HUMAN MISERY VAMPIRES who gain power and sustenance by deliberately creating terrible conditions and stupid divisions in the populace.

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“Human Misery Vampires” would make for a fitting emo band name.

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Ryan McAvoy said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

Lefties really have a problem with the concept of U-N-A-F-F-O-R-D-A-B-L-E and W-O-R-S-E T-H-A-N U-S-E-L-E-S-S LEFTY initiatives.

There would be no need for austerity without that nonsense.

If JUST Amazon paid the same tax as I did when I bill my customers, they would owe an extra 1 billion tax every year in the UK alone. Across the last 7 years, that is more than equal to the cuts in the UK Defence budget. I assume if Amazon’s offices were subject to the kind of terrorist attacks we’ve seen in recent weeks (gods forbid) they’d want the UK Government to do something about it… free of charge?

It’s not the scroungers at the bottom that are the problem, it’s the scroungers at the top.

Amazon going big is relatively recent. The gov’t might be behind the curve.

TBH, the UK is beyond formal uniformed defense. It desperately needs to reprogram it’s defense budget towards assault rifles for all responsible long-term citizens and other equipment for an effective militia.