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Oh brother…

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Where were you in '77?

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MalàStrana said:

Lord Haseo said:

The fact Rogue One is even being considered for awards is a testament to Disney’s ability to put Star Wars back on course. Almost any love Rogue One gets is cool in my book.

Disney can make ANYTHING win an award, even the highest honor. When an animated movie as bad as Zootopia wins againts the great Kubo and the two strings, “love” is irrelevant…

(best actress, seriously… best film, come on…, best director… well, that I can understand)

(and WTF are Empire awards anyway, it’s an online video game magazine ?!? It’s 12 yo kids giving awards to movies ? Dude…)

While I certainly disagree about it winning best film and don’t think very highly of the Empire Awards I just like the fact that Rogue One is being praised at all.

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MalàStrana said:

(and WTF are Empire awards anyway, it’s an online video game magazine ?!? It’s 12 yo kids giving awards to movies ? Dude…)

It’s just a community poll by the readers, take it as you will. Empire itself is the biggest printed movie publication in the UK. Lots of money for exclusives and access to film stuff (guest editor Steven Spielberg etc). They’re also the ones who gave Attack of the Clones the infamous 5/5 review score back in the day. It would still be laughed about if they hadn’t shut down the boards.

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It’s just Kevin Smith voting over and over again.

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oojason said:

darthrush said:

oojason said:

Rogue One Wins Three Empire Awards… (Best Film, Best Actress and Best Director)

https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/03/rogue-one-wins-three-empire-awards-gareth-edwards-talks-han-solo.html

Best Film? And Actress? Jesus Christ, I liked Rogue One but I think that is a little much.

Aye, I thought Ken Loach would get the Best Director for ‘I, Daniel Blake’.

For Best Film it was against Hunt For The Wilderpeople,

Heard wonderful things about this. Dying to see it.

Arrival, La La Land,

Being my two personal favorite films of the year, this is nice.

& Deadpool

Ugh

For Best Actress, Felicity Jones was up against Natalie Portman (Jackie), Amy Adams (Arrival), Ruth Negga (Loving), Emma Stone (La La Land).

Just disgraceful that Felicity won. Her character was one of the worst aspects of Rogue One for me.

And Edwards getting the Director award is fine by me. I would personally take Damien Chazelle over him but I respect his win. I think he really did an outstanding job.

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darthrush said:
Just disgraceful that Felicity won. Her character was one of the worst aspects of Rogue One for me.

At least she’s more developed than someone like Bodhi Rook.

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Lord Haseo said:

darthrush said:
Just disgraceful that Felicity won. Her character was one of the worst aspects of Rogue One for me.

At least she’s more developed than someone like Bodhi Rook.

Bodhi was an imperial pilot inspired by Galen to fight back. He chose to and is constantly trying to prove himself and his worth in the Alliance and then finally in his last moments he gets that fulfillment and knows he played an instrumental role in continuing what Galen started. Felicity had the benefit of far more screen time but her arc was far less tightly written and overall made for an ineffective and non believable arc in my opinion.

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Lord Haseo said:

darthrush said:
Just disgraceful that Felicity won. Her character was one of the worst aspects of Rogue One for me.

At least she’s more developed than someone like Bodhi Rook.

Wrong.

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Does more equal better? Bodhi isn’t developed much but it’s about enough considering his small role. Jyn is clearly more developed (and with good reason) though the quality of the development is up for debate.

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Jyn was ridiculously boring, and Felicity Jones’ performance was bland as hell. That’s coming from somebody who liked the movie.

Not enough people read the EU.

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In a way Jyn Erso’s character is there to remind us that Rogue One is, in spite of Tarkin and Vader stealing the show, at 100% a Prequel movie after all !

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MalàStrana said:

In a way Jyn Erso’s character is there to remind us that Rogue One is, in spite of Tarkin and Vader stealing the show, at 100% a Prequel movie after all !

Only in a way that didn’t actually happen.

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darthrush said:

Lord Haseo said:

darthrush said:
Just disgraceful that Felicity won. Her character was one of the worst aspects of Rogue One for me.

At least she’s more developed than someone like Bodhi Rook.

Bodhi was an imperial pilot inspired by Galen to fight back. He chose to and is constantly trying to prove himself and his worth in the Alliance and then finally in his last moments he gets that fulfillment and knows he played an instrumental role in continuing what Galen started. Felicity had the benefit of far more screen time but her arc was far less tightly written and overall made for an ineffective and non believable arc in my opinion.

And Jyn is a woman who at a young age watched her mother get murdered and her father taken away by The Empire. After some time she has grown to like the idea that Galen is dead because it’s more comforting than knowing he’s being used as a cog in the Imperial war machine. After being taken in by Saw she is “abandoned” by him which has caused her to develop trust issues. And while her arc isn’t convincing like Baze’s I think based on what she had endured it’s sensible as to why she changed her philosophy of ignoring the Empire’s menace into one of freeing the Galaxy of its tyranny. In general she just has more going on as a character.

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MalàStrana said:

Lord Haseo said:

The fact Rogue One is even being considered for awards is a testament to Disney’s ability to put Star Wars back on course. Almost any love Rogue One gets is cool in my book.

(best actress, seriously… best film, come on…, best director… well, that I can understand)

(and WTF are Empire awards anyway, it’s an online video game magazine ?!? It’s 12 yo kids giving awards to movies ? Dude…)

Don’t worry, soon you’ll be 12 years old, and you too will be able to vote along with all the other 12 year year olds who buy monthly film magazines and give out awards to movies - stay patient, dude…

 

darthrush said:

oojason said:

darthrush said:

oojason said:

Rogue One Wins Three Empire Awards… (Best Film, Best Actress and Best Director)

https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/03/rogue-one-wins-three-empire-awards-gareth-edwards-talks-han-solo.html

Best Film? And Actress? Jesus Christ, I liked Rogue One but I think that is a little much.

Aye, I thought Ken Loach would get the Best Director for ‘I, Daniel Blake’.

For Best Film it was against Hunt For The Wilderpeople,

Heard wonderful things about this. Dying to see it.

Arrival, La La Land,

Being my two personal favorite films of the year, this is nice.

& Deadpool

Ugh

Just disgraceful that Felicity won. Her character was one of the worst aspects of Rogue One for me.

I thought she was fine - though likely the re-shoots may well have eaten into various character development. A bit surprised she won though that may be down to the amount of people who watched Rogue One over some of the other films…

…in that the Empire Awards are picked by the viewership, and whilst it’s great to have the viewers pick the winners, it’s likely not all will have seen every film nominated - and due to timing of releases, it was tough for say La La Land to get many votes in quite a narrow timeframe as to a film which had been released earlier in the year?

and also, Star Wars does have a considerable media campaign and presence to it in the build up to its releases - which seems a little unfair on for eg, independent or small budget films. Such is life…

(and yet on the flip side I’d still prefer the public to vote for winners over a panel of anonymous judges - who we know little about other they work in and around the film industry. Overall I don’t think these award shows are not too be taken too seriously. Glad that Rogue One got some love - and from the Empire Awards themselves - I’ve come across a few films and features I’d like to see that I haven’t otherwise heard about - or forgotten about - or lacked a PR/advertising budget etc).

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Yet again a personal attack. This forum will never change…

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MalàStrana said:

Yet again a personal attack. This forum will never change…

No, read it again, and read then read back your post, and then have a think about posting and criticising something you obviously knew nothing about - but chose to deride in a narrow and ignorant manner anyway.

And when you got called on it - using similar language and content of your own post - you then post ‘Yet again a personal attack’.

If my post offends, I apologise - to all the 12 year olds I demeaned. They deserve better than to be used in an example of your ignorance, no?

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adywan said:

Did anyone else notice just how much smaller the Lucasfilm logo and “a long time ago…” text was at the beginning of Rogue One compared to the saga films?

I did not. Interesting.

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adywan said:

Did anyone else notice just how much smaller the Lucasfilm logo and “a long time ago…” text was at the beginning of Rogue One compared to the saga films?

I seem to recall someone mentioning noticing this back in December.

The movie was shot on a 65mm-sized digital camera, and - just to make it even bigger - with the same vintage 1.25x anamorphic lenses used on Hateful Eight.

Maybe Edwards knowingly shrunk the logo and title card intentionally in order to help convey and set up the “bigness” of the cinematography.

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I wish the movie itself was in that expanded ratio. I wonder if they cropped it to 2.39:1.

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doubleofive said:

I wish the movie itself was in that expanded ratio. I wonder if they cropped it to 2.39:1.

I did the math and the Alexa 65’s native AR is 2.1:1. The sensor is just slightly larger and also shaped slightly different from an actual 65mm film frame, which is 2.2:1. So with the Ultra Panavision lenses you get 2.61:1 instead of 2.76:1 like you would with 65mm film.

So, cropping from 2.61 to 2.40 isn’t losing much of the picture, which is probably why they framed it that way. Although, it’s funny to think that La La Land was framed at 2.55:1 theatrically and 2.61:1 for Rogue One would’ve only been a hair wider.

It’s also worth noting that if you crop the sensor to 1.9:1, the default cinema AR, you actually get 2.4:1 with the Ultra Panavision’s 1.25x squeeze. We’re already seeing that same area of the sensor used with spherical lenses to shoot in “digital Imax” such as with the airport scene in Captain America: Civil War and the entirety of Avengers 3 and 4.

Anyway, I think it ultimately comes down to the fact that 2.4:1 is a standard AR while 2.61:1 isn’t. Probably also to match with the other Star Wars movies.

I’m curious how Han Solo is going to look. It would be fun if they surprised us with the first 1.85:1 Star Wars movie.

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Fang Zei said:

doubleofive said:

I wish the movie itself was in that expanded ratio. I wonder if they cropped it to 2.39:1.

Anyway, I think it ultimately comes down to the fact that 2.4:1 is a standard AR while 2.61:1 isn’t. Probably also to match with the other Star Wars movies.

But why bother to use the lenses used on Ben-Hur if you’re just going to crop it in the end? What was gained?

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