Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 216

Ryan McAvoy said:

Looks like we get to live another week before WW3 starts.

Lets not panic just yet.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/16/baby-us-embassy-interview-visa-esta-terrorist

A three-month old baby was summoned to the US embassy in London for an interview after his grandfather mistakenly identified him as a terrorist.

Harvey Kenyon-Cairns had been due to fly to Orlando in Florida for his first overseas holiday, until his grandfather Paul Kenyon made the error on a visa waiver form.

On the part of the Esta form which reads “Do you seek to engage in or have you ever engaged in terrorist activities, espionage, sabotage, or genocide?” Kenyon ticked yes instead of no.

He only learned of his error when his grandson’s travel was refused. “I couldn’t believe that they couldn’t see it was a genuine mistake and that a three-month-old baby would be no harm to anyone,” said the 62-year-old.

The baby was taken from his home in Poynton, Cheshire, to the embassy in Grosvenor Square, London, to be questioned by officials. The round trip took about 10 hours, longer than the nine-and-a-half-hour flight time from Manchester to Orlando.

“Baby Harvey was good as gold for the interview and never cried once. I thought about taking him along in an orange jumpsuit, but thought better of it,” said Kenyon. “They didn’t appear to have a sense of humour over it at all and couldn’t see the funny side.

http://www.avclub.com/article/alex-jones-performance-artist-playing-character-at-253829?

I’m actually disappointed, I quite enjoyed the mystery.

“It [fake news] affects both the right and the left. It affects educated and uneducated. So the stereotypes of it being simply right-wing and simply uneducated are 100% not true,” says Jeff Green, who is the CEO of Trade Desk, an internet advertising company that was recently commissioned by American TV channel CBS to investigate who is reading and sharing fake news online.

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-39592010

I feel like that doesn’t even need to be said, but nonetheless I hear about these stereotypes from family at all times. More interestingly:

And the study revealed another disturbing trend: the more you consume fake news, the more likely you are to vote. It’s “fascinating and frightening at the same time,” says Green.

And also:

"People like to share information that makes them feel good, " she says.

Indeed.

Handman said:

“It [fake news] affects both the right and the left. It affects educated and uneducated. So the stereotypes of it being simply right-wing and simply uneducated are 100% not true,” says Jeff Green, who is the CEO of Trade Desk, an internet advertising company that was recently commissioned by American TV channel CBS to investigate who is reading and sharing fake news online.

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-39592010

I feel like that doesn’t even need to be said, but nonetheless I hear about these stereotypes from family at all times. More interestingly:

And the study revealed another disturbing trend: the more you consume fake news, the more likely you are to vote. It’s “fascinating and frightening at the same time,” says Green.

And also:

"People like to share information that makes them feel good, " she says.

Indeed.

I’ve been aware of this for some time. The problem lies in the fact that some folks just don’t want to listen to others, even if they are right, because it’s not them saying it or getting the attention for doing so.

It is very sad.

TV’s Frink said:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/16/baby-us-embassy-interview-visa-esta-terrorist

A three-month old baby was summoned to the US embassy in London for an interview after his grandfather mistakenly identified him as a terrorist.

Harvey Kenyon-Cairns had been due to fly to Orlando in Florida for his first overseas holiday, until his grandfather Paul Kenyon made the error on a visa waiver form.

On the part of the Esta form which reads “Do you seek to engage in or have you ever engaged in terrorist activities, espionage, sabotage, or genocide?” Kenyon ticked yes instead of no.

He only learned of his error when his grandson’s travel was refused. “I couldn’t believe that they couldn’t see it was a genuine mistake and that a three-month-old baby would be no harm to anyone,” said the 62-year-old.

The baby was taken from his home in Poynton, Cheshire, to the embassy in Grosvenor Square, London, to be questioned by officials. The round trip took about 10 hours, longer than the nine-and-a-half-hour flight time from Manchester to Orlando.

“Baby Harvey was good as gold for the interview and never cried once. I thought about taking him along in an orange jumpsuit, but thought better of it,” said Kenyon. “They didn’t appear to have a sense of humour over it at all and couldn’t see the funny side.

I hope they allowed the parent or guardian to tag along with the baby. I would assume that Grandfather will now be much more careful when filling out forms.

chyron8472 said:

I filed my taxes today. Thanks Obama.

Too much information.

Lol.

Handman said:

chyron8472 said:

I filed my taxes today. Thanks Obama.

Too much information.

Duran Duran

Go start a boring, stuffy British politics thread and leave this one to the Americans!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwLWNXFH2rg

Ryan McAvoy said:

CatBus said:

this is really more about getting May out from under that “temporary caretaker government” shadow after Cameron left?

I don’t think she is seen as a “temporary caretaker government” at all, she was the overwhelmingly popular candidate for Party Leader/PM. I think it’s more about shutting up dissenting voices (of all parties) in Parliament of the “Yes we agree you’ve got a mandate for Brexit, Prime Minister… but not this kind of Brexit!” variety. She’s going to ask the country clearly and directly “Do you want a Brexit on my terms?”. The electorate will most probably answer, “Yes please!” emphatically and she can get on with the business of doing just that.

CatBus said:

Is my understanding correct that this isn’t really expected to change anything substantive? i.e. the people, parliamentary percentages, policies, etc, aren’t really expected to change much at all

Not really, I think things will change quite a bit because the Labour opposition party will most likely be wiped out due in large part to how deeply unpopular their leader (and cabinet) is, which I’m sad to say is probably for their own good in the medium to long term. Hopefully the Lib-Dem party will get back some seats after they were annihilated at the last election.

I think the general consensus is that the Conservative party will win.
This is possibly a misjudgement. When Gordon Brown the most unpopular PM for aeons finally got around to doing what May is doing here after inheriting a gulf war mess from Blair all the Tories could manage was a coalition. They were expected to lose the last election or have to make another coalition with UKIP or some other party.
The secret ingrediant to their majority was Brexit. UKIPers flipped sides to insure they got the referendum. Scotland evicted Labour for supporting the Conservatives and the Liberals lost their nice guy image propping up the Tories in coalition and breaking their manifesto pledges.
We have now a slightly different world. Brexit has happenend, it can’t unhappen so UKIP doesn’t need to exist anymore. Austerity isn’t working and isn’t popular. The SNP need someone the can do business with in Downing Street and May is not that PM.
Corbyn has always been anti-EU (just like Tony Benn). The old Labour zealots that voted Tory to get Brexit may return to the fold now that Brexit is unavoidable. The people that voted Tory as a protest against Blair and Brown will now vote Green rather than vote for the Tories.
My prediction Corbyn will suprise everyone by narrowly winning with the remainers voting against the Conservatives with the same zeal that the Brexiteers voted for them.
That’s if he stays of the hills and doesn’t have a heart attack.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/18/she-wanted-her-ex-husband-to-die-with-a-happy-memory-she-told-him-trump-has-been-impeached/?utm_term=.3c8a9195e42e

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/07/new-report-trump-considers-replacing-kenosha-native-reince-priebus-chief-staff/100161536/

Ryan McAvoy said:

Bingowings said:

My prediction Corbyn will suprise everyone by narrowly winning with the remainers voting against the Conservatives with the same zeal that the Brexiteers voted for them.

After all the recent unexpected election results we’ve had, I could never rule that out but it’s still fantastically unlikely IMO. It’d be nice to get the Tories out but the best I’m hoping for is a loss by Labour that is just big enough to make Corbyn’s position untenable (then they can maybe elect a leader that’ll really challenge May’s government) but not so big that they are left powerless in parliament to reign in the Conservatives and unable to recover by the time the next election comes round.

I also really hope the next two months of debate do not consist entirely of journalists asking Labour politicians if they “REALLY believe they can win?”. Please discuss policies and let the electorate decide at the ballot box. Remember the last time when 80-90% of the debate was “Since the Tories obviously cannot win, who do we think they going to go into coalition with?”… and then they won.

Maybe it will be the media asking if they’ve asked President Trump to command Putin to intervene on their behalf to clinch their political positions?

😉