Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 174

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

Stay classy, Trump Jr!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-criticizes-london-mayor-after-deadly-attack.html

Someone needs to tell him that when he says dumb things, it reflects badly on dear ol’ dad.

I read the article Donald Trump Jr. was referencing and London’s Mayor did indeed say … Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.

The comment starts off the article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-terrorism-attacks-part-and-parcel-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html

So it’s kinda weird that the New York Times would twist the narrative against a Trump and it would get quoted here as factual? Now, I cannot say why Donald Trump Jr. decided to point out the irony of the comment to the person who said it but I would guess that he felt that since someone made the comment about the New York incident they should remember what they said before saying anything about their own terrorist incident?

I don’t have the answers, just the original article quoted, to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.

In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?

In America, we have freedom of speech. None of us have to like what he said and I never claimed to agree with what he said on any level. I am sad to hear about what happened and the U.K. and I am personally glad the sob was shot and killed.

Freedom of speech is in a lot of places, and has nothing to do with what I said.

You said ‘…to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.’

I said 'In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?’

Would you like to answer the question about whether you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Jason, you and I get along well, and I’m not going to argue platitudes with you. I don’t support what he said, I don’t like what he said, but he has the right to say it. I read the U.K. article and the article does indeed start out the way I posted it. I took nothing out of context but it is obvious that a lot of people feel that Donald Jr. did. Cool, I’m not arguing their right to do so, nor am I arguing about people feeling that way.

Now, if that U.K. article is wrong, they should be printing a retraction, and apologize to London’s Mayor for it. I don’t know either the London Mayor or Donald Jr. so I cannot and will not speak for them. It would have been appropriate for him to offer condolences but I cannot answer why he didn’t nor can I make him do it. As you said, he is responsible for his own words and actions, not me not you nor his Father. I am more concerned about my fellow human beings overseas than I am about what he said.

That’s all very well - but the only question was, and is, a simple one:-

Do you think that tweet from him (Trump Jnr) was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

No, I do not think it was some random crappy comment from a Trump relative, he made a statement.

Now, would you mind stepping off my hands about it? Thank you.

Well, you could have just answered that simple question in the first instance instead of what you wrote in between, no?

Don’t feel tetchy about it (‘Now, would you mind stepping off my hands about it? Thank you’) - it’s not you whose first thoughts were seemingly to use an incorrect and out of context shitstain of a twitter comment to attack the London Mayor just after a terrorist attack there.

That Trump Jr what a cnut, eh? and those pricks that defend him for it too.

 

A statement from the Mayor Of London last night on the terrorist attack:-

https://twitter.com/MayorofLondon/status/844631399713947648

Jason,

I ask you again (politely and with respect), would you mind stepping off my hands about it? Thank you.

Wasn’t aware I was stepping on them in asking the question - and like stated above it’s not like you made the comment that Trump Jr did - and thank you for your eventual answer.

oojason said:

chyron8472 said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

Stay classy, Trump Jr!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-criticizes-london-mayor-after-deadly-attack.html

Someone needs to tell him that when he says dumb things, it reflects badly on dear ol’ dad.

I read the article Donald Trump Jr. was referencing and London’s Mayor did indeed say … Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.

The comment starts off the article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-terrorism-attacks-part-and-parcel-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html

So it’s kinda weird that the New York Times would twist the narrative against a Trump and it would get quoted here as factual? Now, I cannot say why Donald Trump Jr. decided to point out the irony of the comment to the person who said it but I would guess that he felt that since someone made the comment about the New York incident they should remember what they said before saying anything about their own terrorist incident?

I don’t have the answers, just the original article quoted, to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.

In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?

In America, we have freedom of speech. None of us have to like what he said and I never claimed to agree with what he said on any level. I am sad to hear about what happened and the U.K. and I am personally glad the sob was shot and killed.

Freedom of speech is in a lot of places, and has nothing to do with what I said.

You said ‘…to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.’

I said 'In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?’

Would you like to answer the question about whether you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Jason, you and I get along well, and I’m not going to argue platitudes with you. I don’t support what he said, I don’t like what he said, but he has the right to say it. I read the U.K. article and the article does indeed start out the way I posted it. I took nothing out of context but it is obvious that a lot of people feel that Donald Jr. did. Cool, I’m not arguing their right to do so, nor am I arguing about people feeling that way.

Now, if that U.K. article is wrong, they should be printing a retraction, and apologize to London’s Mayor for it. I don’t know either the London Mayor or Donald Jr. so I cannot and will not speak for them. It would have been appropriate for him to offer condolences but I cannot answer why he didn’t nor can I make him do it. As you said, he is responsible for his own words and actions, not me not you nor his Father. I am more concerned about my fellow human beings overseas than I am about what he said.

That’s all very well - but the only question was, and is, a simple one:-

Do you think that tweet from him (Trump Jnr) was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

No, I do not think it was some random crappy comment from a Trump relative, he made a statement.

Now, would you mind stepping off my hands about it? Thank you.

Well, you could have just answered that simple question in the first instance instead of what you wrote in between, no?

He did answer it. His answer implied it rather obviously in the context of his statement.

You don’t get to feel superior for badgering someone until they answer exactly how you would have them answer. If his answer is to respond about why Jr said that, rather than just “no”, then you should read into that. This is a conversation, not a congressional​ hearing.

Who is feeling superior? Not many people. Not me for sure. Why would anyone want to?

To be answered with ‘In America, we have freedom of speech here…’, which if anything could be interpreted as evading the question - or maybe come across as superior, no?

No. He said Jr. had the freedom to say it, which in context means he thinks Jr. said it, suggesting that the only plausible motivation for someone else saying it in Jr.'s stead would be if Jr. couldn’t have said it himself. But, following that logic, because he can, he did.

A simple question can have a simple answer.

But again, this is a conversation. If he wants to elaborate or meander or what have you, he can. That’s how conversations work. Again, this is not a deposition. Even if a simple question can have a simple answer, a simple answer is not required. The fact that you could not infer a “no” from his answer is on you, not him.

Don’t badger people for direct answers like that. It’s rude.

chyron8472 said:

oojason said:

chyron8472 said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

Stay classy, Trump Jr!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-criticizes-london-mayor-after-deadly-attack.html

Someone needs to tell him that when he says dumb things, it reflects badly on dear ol’ dad.

I read the article Donald Trump Jr. was referencing and London’s Mayor did indeed say … Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.

The comment starts off the article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-terrorism-attacks-part-and-parcel-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html

So it’s kinda weird that the New York Times would twist the narrative against a Trump and it would get quoted here as factual? Now, I cannot say why Donald Trump Jr. decided to point out the irony of the comment to the person who said it but I would guess that he felt that since someone made the comment about the New York incident they should remember what they said before saying anything about their own terrorist incident?

I don’t have the answers, just the original article quoted, to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.

In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?

In America, we have freedom of speech. None of us have to like what he said and I never claimed to agree with what he said on any level. I am sad to hear about what happened and the U.K. and I am personally glad the sob was shot and killed.

Freedom of speech is in a lot of places, and has nothing to do with what I said.

You said ‘…to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.’

I said 'In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?’

Would you like to answer the question about whether you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Jason, you and I get along well, and I’m not going to argue platitudes with you. I don’t support what he said, I don’t like what he said, but he has the right to say it. I read the U.K. article and the article does indeed start out the way I posted it. I took nothing out of context but it is obvious that a lot of people feel that Donald Jr. did. Cool, I’m not arguing their right to do so, nor am I arguing about people feeling that way.

Now, if that U.K. article is wrong, they should be printing a retraction, and apologize to London’s Mayor for it. I don’t know either the London Mayor or Donald Jr. so I cannot and will not speak for them. It would have been appropriate for him to offer condolences but I cannot answer why he didn’t nor can I make him do it. As you said, he is responsible for his own words and actions, not me not you nor his Father. I am more concerned about my fellow human beings overseas than I am about what he said.

That’s all very well - but the only question was, and is, a simple one:-

Do you think that tweet from him (Trump Jnr) was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

No, I do not think it was some random crappy comment from a Trump relative, he made a statement.

Now, would you mind stepping off my hands about it? Thank you.

Well, you could have just answered that simple question in the first instance instead of what you wrote in between, no?

He did answer it. His answer implied it rather obviously in the context of his statement.

You don’t get to feel superior for badgering someone until they answer exactly how you would have them answer. If his answer is to respond about why Jr said that, rather than just “no”, then you should read into that. This is a conversation, not a congressional​ hearing.

Who is feeling superior? Not many people. Not me for sure. Why would anyone want to?

To be answered with ‘In America, we have freedom of speech here…’, which if anything could be interpreted as evading the question - or maybe come across as superior, no?

No. He said Jr. had the freedom to say it, which in context means he thinks Jr. said it.

A simple question can have a simple answer.

But again, this is a conversation. If he wants to elaborate or meander or what have you, he can. That’s how conversations work. Again, this is not a deposition. Even if a simple question can have a simple answer, a simple answer is not required. The fact that you could not infer a “no” from his answer is on you, not him.

Don’t badger people for direct answers like that. It’s rude.

Once again, it’s not badgering - it’s just a simple question during a conversation - and he eventually answered it.

So what’s the problem?

Plus, why would I feel superior? Why would anyone want to? Why did you even write ‘You don’t get to feel superior…’? No worries - it seems I won’t be getting an answer from you. That’s ok too. Though feel free to meander on - or what have you…

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I would prefer Sanders because if Pence moves forward you and other Clinton supporters are going to turn this thread in to a smoldering pile of guano, guaranteed, LOL.

I’m an Oklahoma Democrat. I liked Bernie, but I thought his ideas were too “pie-in-the-sky” to actually work. I felt, while Hillary is flawed to some degree, her ideas of what and how to get things done were more realistic.

That being said, I think I’d prefer Pence over Trump any day of the week and twice on Sundays, because at least the man is cool headed and respectable even if I disagree with him.

I pretty much agree with all of this.

Sanders could have taken Trump had he not been cheated. If Pence ran on his own for President he’d a never made it to the Primaries.

True.

I just think Sanders’ ideas, as far left as they are, would have been met with the same obstructionism in Congress as had Obama’s (though for different reasons). While Hillary, though not the ideal candidate, would be better at getting things done. Reaching across the aisle and so forth. Sure, there would be push back, but maybe not so unilaterally.

Although she truly was out of touch with why she lost (as Sanders says, to blame Comey is short sighted in the larger context). The fact that she hired Debbie after Debbie was ousted for cheating Sanders certainly shows that Hillary was out of touch with the general feeling during this election.

As Hillary said, she would have been a good president; she just wasn’t very good at running for president. Well, she apparently couldn’t figure out how to fix that or why she even needed to at the time, and that is why she was not electable.

oojason said:

chyron8472 said:

oojason said:

chyron8472 said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

Stay classy, Trump Jr!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-criticizes-london-mayor-after-deadly-attack.html

Someone needs to tell him that when he says dumb things, it reflects badly on dear ol’ dad.

I read the article Donald Trump Jr. was referencing and London’s Mayor did indeed say … Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.

The comment starts off the article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-terrorism-attacks-part-and-parcel-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html

So it’s kinda weird that the New York Times would twist the narrative against a Trump and it would get quoted here as factual? Now, I cannot say why Donald Trump Jr. decided to point out the irony of the comment to the person who said it but I would guess that he felt that since someone made the comment about the New York incident they should remember what they said before saying anything about their own terrorist incident?

I don’t have the answers, just the original article quoted, to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.

In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?

In America, we have freedom of speech. None of us have to like what he said and I never claimed to agree with what he said on any level. I am sad to hear about what happened and the U.K. and I am personally glad the sob was shot and killed.

Freedom of speech is in a lot of places, and has nothing to do with what I said.

You said ‘…to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.’

I said 'In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?’

Would you like to answer the question about whether you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Jason, you and I get along well, and I’m not going to argue platitudes with you. I don’t support what he said, I don’t like what he said, but he has the right to say it. I read the U.K. article and the article does indeed start out the way I posted it. I took nothing out of context but it is obvious that a lot of people feel that Donald Jr. did. Cool, I’m not arguing their right to do so, nor am I arguing about people feeling that way.

Now, if that U.K. article is wrong, they should be printing a retraction, and apologize to London’s Mayor for it. I don’t know either the London Mayor or Donald Jr. so I cannot and will not speak for them. It would have been appropriate for him to offer condolences but I cannot answer why he didn’t nor can I make him do it. As you said, he is responsible for his own words and actions, not me not you nor his Father. I am more concerned about my fellow human beings overseas than I am about what he said.

That’s all very well - but the only question was, and is, a simple one:-

Do you think that tweet from him (Trump Jnr) was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

No, I do not think it was some random crappy comment from a Trump relative, he made a statement.

Now, would you mind stepping off my hands about it? Thank you.

Well, you could have just answered that simple question in the first instance instead of what you wrote in between, no?

He did answer it. His answer implied it rather obviously in the context of his statement.

You don’t get to feel superior for badgering someone until they answer exactly how you would have them answer. If his answer is to respond about why Jr said that, rather than just “no”, then you should read into that. This is a conversation, not a congressional​ hearing.

Who is feeling superior? Not many people. Not me for sure. Why would anyone want to?

To be answered with ‘In America, we have freedom of speech here…’, which if anything could be interpreted as evading the question - or maybe come across as superior, no?

No. He said Jr. had the freedom to say it, which in context means he thinks Jr. said it.

A simple question can have a simple answer.

But again, this is a conversation. If he wants to elaborate or meander or what have you, he can. That’s how conversations work. Again, this is not a deposition. Even if a simple question can have a simple answer, a simple answer is not required. The fact that you could not infer a “no” from his answer is on you, not him.

Don’t badger people for direct answers like that. It’s rude.

Plus, why would I feel superior? Why would anyone want to? Why did you even write ‘You don’t get to feel superior…’?

Because, instead of letting it go, you’re still talking about it. You did badger him, as evidenced by his telling you to step off his hands. And afterward, you thanked him for finally letting you get your way–and in effect congratulating yourself. The appropriate thing to do would have been to apologize for making him do it.

Social interaction is not always overt. It has subtleties. One can convey things without saying them outright. He can say “no” without actually saying the word “no”, and you can pat yourself on the back in the act of thanking someone.

chyron8472 said:

oojason said:

chyron8472 said:

oojason said:

chyron8472 said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

Stay classy, Trump Jr!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-criticizes-london-mayor-after-deadly-attack.html

Someone needs to tell him that when he says dumb things, it reflects badly on dear ol’ dad.

I read the article Donald Trump Jr. was referencing and London’s Mayor did indeed say … Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.

The comment starts off the article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-terrorism-attacks-part-and-parcel-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html

So it’s kinda weird that the New York Times would twist the narrative against a Trump and it would get quoted here as factual? Now, I cannot say why Donald Trump Jr. decided to point out the irony of the comment to the person who said it but I would guess that he felt that since someone made the comment about the New York incident they should remember what they said before saying anything about their own terrorist incident?

I don’t have the answers, just the original article quoted, to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.

In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?

In America, we have freedom of speech. None of us have to like what he said and I never claimed to agree with what he said on any level. I am sad to hear about what happened and the U.K. and I am personally glad the sob was shot and killed.

Freedom of speech is in a lot of places, and has nothing to do with what I said.

You said ‘…to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.’

I said 'In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?’

Would you like to answer the question about whether you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Jason, you and I get along well, and I’m not going to argue platitudes with you. I don’t support what he said, I don’t like what he said, but he has the right to say it. I read the U.K. article and the article does indeed start out the way I posted it. I took nothing out of context but it is obvious that a lot of people feel that Donald Jr. did. Cool, I’m not arguing their right to do so, nor am I arguing about people feeling that way.

Now, if that U.K. article is wrong, they should be printing a retraction, and apologize to London’s Mayor for it. I don’t know either the London Mayor or Donald Jr. so I cannot and will not speak for them. It would have been appropriate for him to offer condolences but I cannot answer why he didn’t nor can I make him do it. As you said, he is responsible for his own words and actions, not me not you nor his Father. I am more concerned about my fellow human beings overseas than I am about what he said.

That’s all very well - but the only question was, and is, a simple one:-

Do you think that tweet from him (Trump Jnr) was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

No, I do not think it was some random crappy comment from a Trump relative, he made a statement.

Now, would you mind stepping off my hands about it? Thank you.

Well, you could have just answered that simple question in the first instance instead of what you wrote in between, no?

He did answer it. His answer implied it rather obviously in the context of his statement.

You don’t get to feel superior for badgering someone until they answer exactly how you would have them answer. If his answer is to respond about why Jr said that, rather than just “no”, then you should read into that. This is a conversation, not a congressional​ hearing.

Who is feeling superior? Not many people. Not me for sure. Why would anyone want to?

To be answered with ‘In America, we have freedom of speech here…’, which if anything could be interpreted as evading the question - or maybe come across as superior, no?

No. He said Jr. had the freedom to say it, which in context means he thinks Jr. said it.

A simple question can have a simple answer.

But again, this is a conversation. If he wants to elaborate or meander or what have you, he can. That’s how conversations work. Again, this is not a deposition. Even if a simple question can have a simple answer, a simple answer is not required. The fact that you could not infer a “no” from his answer is on you, not him.

Don’t badger people for direct answers like that. It’s rude.

Plus, why would I feel superior? Why would anyone want to? Why did you even write ‘You don’t get to feel superior…’?

Because, instead of letting it go, you’re still talking about it. You did badger him, as evidenced by his telling you to step off his hands. And afterward, you thanked him for finally letting you get your way–and in effect congratulating yourself. The appropriate thing to do would have been to apologize for making him do it.

No, I actually thanked him for his answer because that’s the appropriate and polite thing to thing to do and acknowledge - especially since Fo was polite in his previous statement (and usually is in general). If you misinterpreted that, that is on you.

Also, I’m not the one still talking about it - just previously ‘No worries - it seems I won’t be getting an answer from you. That’s ok too. Though feel free to meander on - or what have you…’ yet you’re still talking about it… and I have a feeling your next post will likely too…

Social interaction is not always overt. It has subtleties. One can convey things without saying them outright. He can say “no” without actually saying the word “no”, and you can pat yourself in the act of thanking someone.

It certainly can, though this didn’t occur here - as previously stated.

TV’s Frink said:

Not sure how long you’ve been reading this thread but a lot of us get confused by much of what Fo says vs what he’s trying to say.

lol.

What gets me is that the country seems to have completely forgotten about the debt crisis we’re in. Owing trillions of dollars, runaway spending… The concept that Trump is weekly spending millions on golf trips to Mar-a-lago seems to be met with a shake of the head and a shrug in lieu of complaining about his inane tweets.

Cutting funding to PBS seems to be a minor concern comparatively, but it’s what the media would rather talk about.

An interesting little MSNBC video about Trump lying to his supporters repeatedly, then admitting he was lying to them, then still telling them the same lie… and them continuing to cheer him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q49R5hScXKM

For decades politicians have had to be careful to keep their “base” on side but Trump has managed to find a base so stupid that he can say and do anything and they’ll keep right on supporting him. He is a political genius in some respects.

(btw it’s kinda weird that Chris Hayes always tells the viewers to “just blow me” at the end of every MSNBC video?)

A bit of class from the London Mayor earlier today…

Sadiq Khan: ‘I won’t respond to Donald Trump Jr’s tweets’ – audio:-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2017/mar/23/sadiq-khan-i-wont-respond-to-donald-trump-jrs-tweets-audio

Mayor says London ‘won’t be cowed by terrorists’:-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2017/mar/23/sadiq-khan-says-londoners-will-never-be-cowed-by-terrorism-video

We are not afraid’: Theresa May’s statement to MPs – video:-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2017/mar/23/we-are-not-afraid-theresa-mays-statement-to-mps-video

MP James Cleverly’s emotional tribute to murdered police officer – video:-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2017/mar/23/mp-james-cleverlys-emotional-tribute-to-murdered-police-officer-video

Jetrell Fo said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Trump has managed to find a base so stupid that he can say and do anything and they’ll keep right on supporting him.

If you think 1 person has cornered the market on stupid, talk to Bernie Sanders, ask him how he feels about being cheated by his own people.

😉 (a wink in jest)

Joking or not, it’s not a valid comparison. Sanders “base” were not thrilled when he was doing things like endorsing Hillary. Trump’s base would just keep cheering him no matter what.

The Internet is no place for such rational conclusions.

EDIT: Fo beat me to it.

Warbler said:

CatBus said:

The Internet is no place for such rational conclusions.

EDIT: Fo beat me to it.

Voting for Hillary was the best shot at defeating Trump.

That was me agreeing with you. Damn that sarcasm tag.

Handman said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Trump has managed to find a base so stupid that he can say and do anything and they’ll keep right on supporting him.

If you think 1 person has cornered the market on stupid, talk to Bernie Sanders, ask him how he feels about being cheated by his own people.

😉 (a wink in jest)

Joking or not, it’s not a valid comparison. Sanders “base” were not thrilled when he was doing things like endorsing Hillary. Trump’s base would just keep cheering him no matter what.

Just to make sure, are you insinuating Trump’s base would still cheer him if he endorsed Hillary? I thought most of his campaign was run on the fact that he wasn’t Hillary.

I wouldn’t be surprised at this stage.

Jetrell Fo said:

Trump is President due to the stupidity of Clinton and the DNC, not because Americans that voted for Trump are mindless idiots, and your suggestion they are is disappointing.

I didn’t suggest that all “Americans that voted for Trump are mindless idiots”, just his “base”, although now you mention it…

Even Trump thinks his base are “mindless idiots”. Why else would he keep lying to their faces, after he has already revealed the truth to the press like in that clip I linked to.

Handman said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Trump has managed to find a base so stupid that he can say and do anything and they’ll keep right on supporting him.

If you think 1 person has cornered the market on stupid, talk to Bernie Sanders, ask him how he feels about being cheated by his own people.

😉 (a wink in jest)

Joking or not, it’s not a valid comparison. Sanders “base” were not thrilled when he was doing things like endorsing Hillary. Trump’s base would just keep cheering him no matter what.

Just to make sure, are you insinuating Trump’s base would still cheer him if he endorsed Hillary? I thought most of his campaign was run on the fact that he wasn’t Hillary.

I think it’s certainly arguable. There are multiple parallels between the '08 and '16 primaries. One of course is that the Democratic primary was truly settled by Super Tuesday, but the losing candidate kept going on all the way to the end because of the size and devotion of their following. The other, less frequently discussed factor was that once it was clear Clinton was faltering in 08, her campaign staked quite a lot on aiming for the same, er, let’s say “demographic appeal”, that Trump’s campaign later capitalized on–disaffected white working class voters in the south and upper midwest. They both ran on a “not Obama” platform in that sense, and it wouldn’t take much for an '08 Hillary voter in that demographic to jump to a '16 Trump voter–or jump back, especially if Trump dropped out due to losing to a candidate perceived as a racial minority.