Rogue One * Spoilers * Thread — Page 128

Walt Disney Pictures made Beauty and the Beast. Lucasfilm made TFA and RO. Walt Disney Studios distributed both. Maybe some day people will learn the difference (spoiler: they won’t).

Mocata said:

Lord Haseo said:

I wonder how people would see these characters had they not died. For a character like Bohdi all he had was a good death scene so without that there’s nothing to really get emotionally invested in.

A little screen presence goes a long way.

It does if that time is used efficiently. Alfred in TDKR is a perfect example of this as he brought a lot of emotion to the film even though he didn’t have much screen time. Disregarding BB and TDK Nolan still had plenty of scenes to develop Alfred taking issue with Bruce coming out of retirement whereas Bodhi only had like one scene where he sufficiently states who he is and what his motives are. They could have least made his personality more colorful so that he could have made an impression in another way. Anything is better than having him doing nothing for most of the film.

But the ones with natural charisma didn’t get enough to do personally.

I agree.

Alderaan said:

And I was referring to the fact that they are in a rehash

I stopped reading right there. In fact I have RehashedpostBlocker installed.

SilverWook said:

Lord Haseo said:

Density said:

Yeah, it was cool to watch Vader kick some ass at the end, but it meant nothing and was just another example of fan service.

And like I have stated before if they filmed Vader slaughtering Rebels in the OT literally no one would have an issue with the Vader slaughter scene in Rogue One.

A fully suited Vader slaughtering Jedi in Episode III would have gone over like gangbusters as well.

You’re probably right even though there were only two Jedi alive at the time. I don’t even want to know how someone could try to spin that but whoever can should be leading our country.

DominicCobb said:

Walt Disney Pictures made Beauty and the Beast. Lucasfilm made TFA and RO. Walt Disney Studios distributed both. Maybe some day people will learn the difference (spoiler: they won’t).

Actually, if you had watched TFA and R1, which I’m sure you did, you could tell they were made by about 50 different executives, all with their own sometimes disparate ideas, crammed into 2 hours.

Which is how dysfunctional rehash movies get made.

Alderaan said:

DominicCobb said:

Walt Disney Pictures made Beauty and the Beast. Lucasfilm made TFA and RO. Walt Disney Studios distributed both. Maybe some day people will learn the difference (spoiler: they won’t).

Actually, if you had watched TFA and R1, which I’m sure you did, you could tell they were made by about 50 different executives, all with their own sometimes disparate ideas, crammed into 2 hours.

Which is how dysfunctional rehash movies get made.

The disparity between what you think you know and what you actually know is hilarious.

Alderaan said:

DominicCobb said:

Walt Disney Pictures made Beauty and the Beast. Lucasfilm made TFA and RO. Walt Disney Studios distributed both. Maybe some day people will learn the difference (spoiler: they won’t).

Actually, if you had watched TFA and R1, which I’m sure you did, you could tell they were made by about 50 different executives, all with their own sometimes disparate ideas, crammed into 2 hours.

Which is how dysfunctional rehash movies get made.

TFA? Fine but Rogue One? Nah. It just a movie that takes place around the time of the OT. How does that make it a rehash?

Lord Haseo said:

Alderaan said:

DominicCobb said:

Walt Disney Pictures made Beauty and the Beast. Lucasfilm made TFA and RO. Walt Disney Studios distributed both. Maybe some day people will learn the difference (spoiler: they won’t).

Actually, if you had watched TFA and R1, which I’m sure you did, you could tell they were made by about 50 different executives, all with their own sometimes disparate ideas, crammed into 2 hours.

Which is how dysfunctional rehash movies get made.

TFA? Fine but Rogue One? Nah. It just a movie that takes place around the time of the OT. How does that make it a rehash?

Another movie with the Death Star, even though they’ve been blown up 2-3 times, depending on how you count them? Another movie with Darth Vader? That’s five movies now since he died, and he’s managed to appear in all of them. Another movie with Grand Moff Tarkin? Now there’s going to be another movie with Han Solo?

The whole series is just rehash now.

To be fair to Disney, maybe this is what the market wants. You’ve got all these aging baby-boomer Trump voters who want it to be the 1980s again. Maybe there really are just hordes of people who are nearing the end of life, and want to be spoon fed all the things they loved from days of yore.

It’s terrible filmmaking though.

Alderaan said:

Lord Haseo said:

Alderaan said:

DominicCobb said:

Walt Disney Pictures made Beauty and the Beast. Lucasfilm made TFA and RO. Walt Disney Studios distributed both. Maybe some day people will learn the difference (spoiler: they won’t).

Actually, if you had watched TFA and R1, which I’m sure you did, you could tell they were made by about 50 different executives, all with their own sometimes disparate ideas, crammed into 2 hours.

Which is how dysfunctional rehash movies get made.

TFA? Fine but Rogue One? Nah. It just a movie that takes place around the time of the OT. How does that make it a rehash?

Another movie with the Death Star

Hahahahaha!

A movie that leads directly into ANH and is about the capture of the Death Star plans shouldn’t have the Death Star in it? WTF?

Empire sucked because Darth Vader rehashed his lightsaber from ANH.

TV’s Frink said:

Alderaan said:

Lord Haseo said:

Alderaan said:

DominicCobb said:

Walt Disney Pictures made Beauty and the Beast. Lucasfilm made TFA and RO. Walt Disney Studios distributed both. Maybe some day people will learn the difference (spoiler: they won’t).

Actually, if you had watched TFA and R1, which I’m sure you did, you could tell they were made by about 50 different executives, all with their own sometimes disparate ideas, crammed into 2 hours.

Which is how dysfunctional rehash movies get made.

TFA? Fine but Rogue One? Nah. It just a movie that takes place around the time of the OT. How does that make it a rehash?

Another movie with the Death Star

Hahahahaha!

A movie that leads directly into ANH and is about the capture of the Death Star plans shouldn’t have the Death Star in it? WTF?

Why did they make another movie about the Death Star in the first place?

Empire sucked because Darth Vader rehashed his lightsaber from ANH.

When was Darth Vader’s lightsaber killed off in ANH? Was his character arc completely finished when he flew off into outer space?

Alderaan said:

TV’s Frink said:

Alderaan said:

Lord Haseo said:

Alderaan said:

DominicCobb said:

Walt Disney Pictures made Beauty and the Beast. Lucasfilm made TFA and RO. Walt Disney Studios distributed both. Maybe some day people will learn the difference (spoiler: they won’t).

Actually, if you had watched TFA and R1, which I’m sure you did, you could tell they were made by about 50 different executives, all with their own sometimes disparate ideas, crammed into 2 hours.

Which is how dysfunctional rehash movies get made.

TFA? Fine but Rogue One? Nah. It just a movie that takes place around the time of the OT. How does that make it a rehash?

Another movie with the Death Star

Hahahahaha!

A movie that leads directly into ANH and is about the capture of the Death Star plans shouldn’t have the Death Star in it? WTF?

Why did they make another movie about the Death Star in the first place?

You can complain that they made the decision to do so but that does not make it a rehash.

Empire sucked because Darth Vader rehashed his lightsaber from ANH.

When was Darth Vader’s lightsaber killed off in ANH? Was his character arc completely finished when he flew off into outer space?

Again, you just don’t like that they made an immediate prequel to ANH. That’s your right but you’re completely wrong to call it a rehash.

You’ve used “rehash” so often you don’t even know what it means anymore…assuming you ever did.

Alderaan said:
Another movie with Darth Vader? That’s five movies now since he died, and he’s managed to appear in all of them.

The first 3 were stories were about the rise of Darth Vader and Anakin didn’t even turn until ROTS. Also he was only mentioned in TFA so I count 2/5 man.

Alderaan said:

TV’s Frink said:

Alderaan said:

Lord Haseo said:

Alderaan said:

DominicCobb said:

Walt Disney Pictures made Beauty and the Beast. Lucasfilm made TFA and RO. Walt Disney Studios distributed both. Maybe some day people will learn the difference (spoiler: they won’t).

Actually, if you had watched TFA and R1, which I’m sure you did, you could tell they were made by about 50 different executives, all with their own sometimes disparate ideas, crammed into 2 hours.

Which is how dysfunctional rehash movies get made.

TFA? Fine but Rogue One? Nah. It just a movie that takes place around the time of the OT. How does that make it a rehash?

Another movie with the Death Star

Hahahahaha!

A movie that leads directly into ANH and is about the capture of the Death Star plans shouldn’t have the Death Star in it? WTF?

Why did they make another movie about the Death Star in the first place?

For the same reason the PT was made and that is to add another piece to the story of Star Wars and to fill in the gaps between the PT and OT.

Another movie with Grand Moff Tarkin? Now there’s going to be another movie with Han Solo?

The whole series is just rehash now.

Admittedly, the Han movie seems like rehashing as it’s a story not worth telling (on film anyway) but as long as the plot isn’t ripping off stuff from older movies why does it matter that Storm Troopers and Rebels appear?

Rehash:

• to talk over or discuss again

• to present or use again in another form without substantial change or improvement

Lord Haseo said:

Rehash:

• to talk over or discuss again

• to present or use again in another form without substantial change or improvement

You’re just describing Alderaan and impscum’s arguments.

You’re just describing Alderaan and impscum’s arguments.

XD

Lord Haseo said:
… whereas Bodhi only had like one scene where he sufficiently states who he is and what his motives are. They could have least made his personality more colorful so that he could have made an impression in another way. Anything is better than having him doing nothing for most of the film.

Right, it needed time for him to be introduced, see what the plans are, and bond with Galen before escaping. But there’s no time for that in this plot structure. You could just as easily have Saw Gerrara already have the plans from an unknown spy. Character arcs are not rocket science, but I felt like the first act needed way more development or less team members who have more chemistry. They could scrap Bodhi, Baze and Cassian and bring in Chirrut earlier while not killing off Saw for a better sense of clashing ideology while allowing Jyn to grow more.

Alderaan said:

Lord Haseo said:

Alderaan said:

DominicCobb said:

Walt Disney Pictures made Beauty and the Beast. Lucasfilm made TFA and RO. Walt Disney Studios distributed both. Maybe some day people will learn the difference (spoiler: they won’t).

Actually, if you had watched TFA and R1, which I’m sure you did, you could tell they were made by about 50 different executives, all with their own sometimes disparate ideas, crammed into 2 hours.

Which is how dysfunctional rehash movies get made.

TFA? Fine but Rogue One? Nah. It just a movie that takes place around the time of the OT. How does that make it a rehash?

Another movie with the Death Star, even though they’ve been blown up 2-3 times, depending on how you count them? Another movie with Darth Vader? That’s five movies now since he died, and he’s managed to appear in all of them. Another movie with Grand Moff Tarkin? Now there’s going to be another movie with Han Solo?

That’s… that’s just actually stupid.

DominicCobb said:

Lord Haseo said:

Rehash:

• to talk over or discuss again

• to present or use again in another form without substantial change or improvement

You’re just describing Alderaan and impscum’s arguments.

No because we’ve already established that TFA is a soft remake and Rogue One is a new story so it doesn’t even count. But then again so is the Han Solo flick and in this moment I see my hypocrisy. I take back my previous statement about the Han Solo flick feeling like a rehash. If anything it feels more fanservicy and unnecessary in my opinion.

DominicCobb said:

Lord Haseo said:

Rehash:

• to talk over or discuss again

• to present or use again in another form without substantial change or improvement

You’re just rehashing Alderaan and impscum’s arguments.

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