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kenkraly2007 wrote:

I was looking at some 1080p images of the se's from a uk hdtv channel skyfield I l belive. heres the links : ANH  http://tiedostot.tahtiensota.net/ANH1080p/ , ESB http://tiedostot.tahtiensota.net/TESB1080i/ ,       ROTJ http://tiedostot.tahtiensota.net/ROTJ1080i/                And yes they have fixed colors.

These tiedostot images are from 2007.  and are not the UK Sky channel recording but the German broadcast.  (see scroll3 and 4)  The colors are more or less the 2004 dvds; for instance the criticism of Hoth looking blue.  (13192)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_changes_in_Star_Wars_re-releases#Star_Wars_DVD_Box_Set

dark_jedi wrote:

Does anyone know where to find good quality versions of the original trailers to these?

There are two stalled OT.com trailer collection threads:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/lt-The-Star-Wars-Trailers-Project-gt/post/218379/

Much of these are probably collected from the Definitive Collection preservations by EDITDROID and Rowman, but people posted where they got the other trailers from, where that's not the case.

Below mentions a few non-english versions not part of the above discussion.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Original-Trilogy-Theatrical-and-Home-Video-Trailers-Deconstruction/post/427212/#TopicPost427212

Would have to trend his posts, but his homepage mentions the death of his father in 2008, and there are plenty examples of late of him 'perfecting' this deleted personality along with constant purchasing and selling of merchandise.  Death affects in strange ways.

Moth3r wrote:

The first film widely bootlegged on VHS/Beta was ET in 1982. So I imagine that bootlegs of ESB would be extremely rare, but there might be better chance of finding a cam of ROTJ. (The '77 SW bootlegs came from telecine sources, I think.)

Some of the SW biography/history books mention how even then Fox/LFL were worried about reproductions of the film.  Alluding to film reproductions.  So it's a possibility but yeah unlikely. 

http://books.google.com/books?id=MjFL1KbcX_oC&pg=PA73&dq=%22star+wars%22++piracy&hl=en&ei=GBftTLu4FIG78gbZ4vSpAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22star%20wars%22%20%20piracy&f=false

pg. 73

Sixteen millimeter movies continued to be a mainstay of the U.S. Armed Forces-films in that format were shown in bases around the world.  After about 1950 they apparently posed no problem, until 1979.  At that time it was reported that more than 700 U.S. Army and Air Force cinemas around the world would not be able to screen Star Wars because of the distributor's fear of piracy.  Fox refused to release the movie in 16m format to the Army and Air Force Motion Picture Service due to the possibility of piracy.

<omit>

This episode marked the first time the AAFES had been unable to acquire film right for hits houses-16m sites screen the movies for free.  Fox's increased fear of piracy was grounded in the arrival of a new technology: the videocassette recorder.  It worried about how easy it might be to run off cassette copies of it blockbuster hit Star Wars.

Last quote might be from Variety March 21, 1979

Also from this book is mention of another Variety article which could be the source of the SW boots:

pg. 202

"David Barnes admits pic piracy; Star Wars, others to so. Africa."

Variety April 5, 1978, p. 18

Here's a blurb which gives an idea of quantity from back then:

http://www.readfilm.com/PiracyJM.html

(from American Film: Journal of the Film and Television Arts, July-August 1978, vol. III no. 9, pp. 57–67.)

According to Variety, the Los Angeles piracy unit of the FBI has recovered more than $2 million in bootleg audio tapes and videotapes and films, including forty thousand reels and cassettes of films, together with almost $150 million worth of equipment and raw materials, since the crackdown began several years ago.

In the not-too-distant future, videotape is going to have to be considered almost equal with theatrical exhibition. Big hits like Saturday Night Fever will be seen in a theater first, because that's still a special experience, but viewers will probably be able to pick up a cassette copy on the way home for repeat viewings. It is probably no accident that recent blockbusters have been heavily influenced by music. They're less dramatic, more like a record one plays over and over again. Repeat admissions were certainly a large factor in Star Wars' success.

Never heard that music theory before, but it holds up.

If anyone got a screen cap (or cache) post it to: http://www.lamebook.com/

http://www.sandtroopers.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=dfgsed4ce21hdh6bspaj2jkak2&topic=12098.0

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?action=profile;u=917

http://www.trektoy.com/forum/index.php?showuser=5125

Lead on an audio ESB drive-in recording:

http://www.chud.com/articles/articles/23797/1/EMPIRE-STRIKES-BACK-IS-30--WE-THAT-SAW-IT-WELL-BEST-NOT-TO-DWELL-ON-AGE/Page1.html

Comment #13 (Posted by Loud and Clear, kid.)

An original bootlegger, I saw it at the drive in my first time, took my cassette recorder and some extra batteries. I listened to that audio tape every night that year when I went to sleep. I can still do a pretty good Taun Taun imitation.

A second lead on an ESB theatrical preservation: (posted in 1999...)

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=17039&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=1918727

I remember when some friends had a copy of The Empire Strikes Back (on Beta, no less) that appeared to be from a camcorder from a drive-in movie theater. That may have been before the word camcorder had even been coined!

It wasn't terrible. I mean, what do you expect from video tape, anyway? It's not even as good as broadcast TV! The only really bad part was when they apparently switched tapes (or had to hide the camera for a minute).

ifhe broke a rule, he understands the rule now.

Well he's either deleted his facebook page

You CAN unlearn!

although read an article about people who use facebook and instead of logging off, there is some 'take offline' option which makes the page inaccessable when they are not 'live'.

So when is "Star Wars - The App" going to replace this BluRay.  Download the 'Star Wars App' and watch INSTANTLY as George gets closer to realizing this original vision!!!!

JediTray - Jay = Editr

I hate to bring this to everyone's attention this way but OT.com owner Jay doesn't know he's got a inoperable brain tumor and like in Fight Club, he's developed an alternative posting personality after his previous OT.com sock's fan edit wasn't well received.  The JediTray 'Delete'isodes are his real consciousness attempting to regain control. 

TV's Frink wrote:

Can we let this Jedi Tray in?

Or this one?

WHOA!!! that second one is WAY too complicated.  and the first one's a fail too, already sold....

Can we let this JediTray in?

Updated main post:

Added section for the 'Special Editions' and 'The Clone Wars'.

Added titles from Kan Vijentwintig and satanika.  Kudos.

"Extra Credit for Crowd Noise!"

Added info about a possible ESB VHS (date unknown)

http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/39615#comment_2428908

Bootleg VHS of Empire Strikes Back by Manos

Dec 30th, 2008 09:17:55 AM

One of my prized posessions is a bootleg VHS copy of The Empire Strikes Back. It's about 4th generation, which means its nearly unwatchable, but I still love it. Some guy in New York used to set up a camera in a theater he ran and tape the movies. I got mine through a hustler I worked with at JC Penny. I lost contact wtih him and found out that the FCC had raided his home about a year later. They confiscated his tapes (blank VHS tapes were worth about $25 a pop then), his VHS machine, and fined him thousands of dollars. That was my first and last foray into the dark realm of bootleg movies.

Anybody remember the first VHS machines... by Manos	Dec 30th, 2008 09:23:18 AM
designed for mass marketing? They cost $999.95, were top loaders and the remote control consisted of switch attached to a long cord that allowed the viewer to pause the recording. The good thing about them was the record heads. They lasted forever and were easily replaced.

Anyone got any ideas how to get word to this user?  He's still active on the boards, last post about two weeks ago.

The RotS ViSA workprint is the leak from one of the labs working on the color adjustments for the movie.  In the ViSA workprint are 5 Titles, four of which contain 99 chapters, the first title has 94 chapters, and these chapter sync up with every camera change in the movie.  I've been attempting to deconstruct the file to see what other details might emerge:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/VIDEO-TS-sleuthing-forensics-How-can-I-and-what-could-I-learn/topic/12158/

Here are some of the knowns:

Basic rundown of info:

Star.Wars.Episode.3.Revenge.of.the.Sith.WP.DVDR-ViSA ISO

UnRAR Folder : sw3.scr-visa

File : sith.iso

File Size : 1.54 GB

Date : May 18, 2005 10:29 PM

VIDEO_TS Date : May 17, 2005 11:51 PM

- VIDEO_TS.BUP : May 17, 2005 11:51 PM : 33kb

- VIDEO_TS.IFO : May 17, 2005 11:51 PM : 33kb

- VTS_01_0.BUP : May 17, 2005 11:51 PM : 164kb

- VTS_01_0.IFO : May 17, 2005 11:51 PM : 164kb

- VTS_01_1.VOB : May 17, 2005 11:50 PM : 1.02gb

- VTS_01_2.VOB : May 17, 2005 11:51 PM : 512.6mb

Format : MPEG2 Muxed - 352 x 240 - 29.97

Audio : 48000 hz - 224 kb/s

Title 01 - 94 Chapters : Title 02, 03, 04, 05 - 99 Chapters

Subtitles : No

Sample : sample.vob (50mb) - May 18, 2005 10:14 PM

NFO comment: "WEEEEEEE, ripper named the rars funny, isn't he a hoot.  nuke this if you want.  it's real.  check a rar or two could be a SCREENER, looks more like a finished Workprint, since there's 2 fuck off big timers :) "

Since these groups have members who accomplish tasks, might be proof, that there was an uploader, could be the same as the RAR person, then this .nfo creator, then the distributors.

 

Timecode Start : RT (underscored by an arrow) 00:59:49:03 LTCR:00:59:49:02

Timecode End : RT 03:20:44:18 LTCR:03:20:44:14

RT = RealTime???? & LTCR = Linear TimeCode Recording???? (guess)

Timecode 00:00:00:00 : at beginning of count down.

Here's a pic of the unique frames from the pre-movie opening:  (most of the other frames are black with timecode running)

SMPTE -> HEAD (reversed) -> COMMON NO SYNC (reversed) -> (arrow) -> COLOR BY JEDI MASTERING LAB -> HEAD -> (dot) -> PICTURE -> (black ring on red field) -> (black rectangle on red field) -> (yellow background) 1 - R " 2 NOTSSNUD "" -> SOUND START (vertical flip) -> REEL 1 (vertical flip) -> DUNSTON 2 (vertical flip) -> PICTURE START (white background) -> (diamond) -> (count down) 11, 10, 9 NINE, 8, 7, 6 SIX, 5, (diamond) POP or BOB???? -> 4 -> (arrow) -> CONTROL STRIP (7FRAMES) -> (arrow), 3

So although this file has value in that t's a look into the film making process, there are other ramifications of this file.  This file lead to the FBI/ICE takedown of Elite Torrents, the jailing of several people, the suicide of another and a bunch of other things.  If your into this kinda thing, i'm attempting to piece together the puzzle through online searching/requesting and FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) requests.  Progress on that front can be read here:

http://noneinc.com/tBSWM/tBSWM_FAQ.html#FOIA

If you see an angle of questioning to find out more about, let me know and i'll add it to my further attempts.

satanika wrote:

It sounds like VCD res to me, is it MPEG1 or MPEG2? Source could be VCD or 'VCD-on-DVD'.

Would the VCD-on-DVD format be something 2005 production houses might have used?  Seemed to be the preferred pirate method of the time, curious if this is a reprocessing of another file or if this was the 'source'.  Have not uncovered anything more using the hex search, the only thing recognizable is the "Ulead Systems".

Basic rundown of info:

Star.Wars.Episode.3.Revenge.of.the.Sith.WP.DVDR-ViSA ISO

UnRAR Folder : sw3.scr-visa

File : sith.iso

File Size : 1.54 GB

Date : May 18, 2005 10:29 PM

VIDEO_TS Date : May 17, 2005 11:51 PM

- VIDEO_TS.BUP : May 17, 2005 11:51 PM : 33kb

- VIDEO_TS.IFO : May 17, 2005 11:51 PM : 33kb

- VTS_01_0.BUP : May 17, 2005 11:51 PM : 164kb

- VTS_01_0.IFO : May 17, 2005 11:51 PM : 164kb

- VTS_01_1.VOB : May 17, 2005 11:50 PM : 1.02gb

- VTS_01_2.VOB : May 17, 2005 11:51 PM : 512.6mb

Format : MPEG2 Muxed - 352 x 240 - 29.97

Audio : 48000 hz - 224 kb/s

Title 01 - 94 Chapters : Title 02, 03, 04, 05 - 99 Chapters

Subtitles : No

Sample : sample.vob (50mb) - May 18, 2005 10:14 PM

NFO comment: "WEEEEEEE, ripper named the rars funny, isn't he a hoot.  nuke this if you want.  it's real.  check a rar or two could be a SCREENER, looks more like a finished Workprint, since there's 2 fuck off big timers :) "

Since these groups have members who accomplish tasks, might be proof, that there was an uploader, could be the same as the RAR person, then this .nfo creator, then the distributors.

Timecode Start : RT (underscored by an arrow) 00:59:49:03 LTCR:00:59:49:02

Timecode End : RT 03:20:44:18 LTCR:03:20:44:14

RT = RealTime???? & LTCR = Linear TimeCode Recording???? (guess)

Timecode 00:00:00:00 : at beginning of count down.

Here's a pic of the unique frames from the pre-movie opening:  (most of the other frames are black with timecode running)

SMPTE -> HEAD (reversed) -> COMMON NO SYNC (reversed) -> (arrow) -> COLOR BY JEDI MASTERING LAB -> HEAD -> (dot) -> PICTURE -> (black ring on red field) -> (black rectangle on red field) -> (yellow background) 1 - R " 2 NOTSSNUD "" -> SOUND START (vertical flip) -> REEL 1 (vertical flip) -> DUNSTON 2 (vertical flip) -> PICTURE START (white background) -> (diamond) -> (count down) 11, 10, 9 NINE, 8, 7, 6 SIX, 5, (diamond) POP or BOB???? -> 4 -> (arrow) -> CONTROL STRIP (7FRAMES) -> (arrow), 3

List Update:

Added: RotS TUN, AotC Centropy & RotS MoF, aAF (digital)

Kudos : Kan Vijfentwintig, adywan and satanika

link343 wrote:

Shouldn't Puggo's 16mm transfer be include with the rest of the Pre-ANH bootlegs?

Although a great preservation, this threads about the Theater Going Experience, the Puggo editions are from retail items.  Revisiting for informational purposes how the movies appeared when people went to a theater to see it.  Being Pre-ANH is just one criteria some of the SW one's will share, but they're might be a SE boot which will be of merit to save as well.  So with that in mind i've...

Moved RotS workprint to 'Honorary Mention" category.

Personally i'm more interested in the crappier side of this phenomenon, crowd noise and the occasional head in screen are what i'm after.  Would like to hear real people getting into the spirit of the movie.  But to find those, you have to dig up all the 'preferred' preservations which are more about saving the film quality not the atmosphere.

Here's the .nfo for Moth3r's Widescreen SW:

http://binsearch.info/viewNFO.php?oid=38062848&server=

a.b.sw "SWANH_Widescreen_Bootleg"

Kan Vijentwintig also posted SWIVBOOT at around the same time.

Kudos to the Pack.Rat.Pack.People who helped made this thread informative and those that will stumble upon and inform some more.

Am in the process of learning about the original presentation of these films by examining ‘Theater Performance’ recordings.  Would like to identify aspects of this presentation method which no longer exists in the subsequent versions.  For instance Reel Change Markers exist no where else.

Outputted the Cue (Motor & Changeover) markers (Reel Change) for reference:
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Reel_Changes/Reel_Changes.html

Personally also curious to see if there are versions in which crowd interaction takes place. Would be great to hear the cheers and jeers of the audience. (especially as the home entertainment versions of the movies take over public precedence) But since most bootlegs were made to get a pristine version of the movie, those will probably be the bulk of the conversation of this thread. So post titles, links anything you find relevant.

–< Extra Credit For Crowd Noise >–

1977 - Star Wars
1977.xx.xx : Star Wars 70mm In-Theater Audio Recording - morgands1
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/1977-70mm-Soundtrack-Recording/topic/5685/
–http://www.wideanglecloseup.com/starwarsaudio.html
–http://members.aol.com/morgands1/closeup/text/SWaudio.htm (use Wayback Machine :http://www.archive.org/web/web.php) “www.archive.org/web/web.php)”)
197x.xx.xx : Star Wars 35mm In-Theater Audio Recording - blitter - Stuart Theatre in Lincoln NE
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/1977-70mm-Soundtrack-Strikes-Back/post/231169/#TopicPost231169
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/1977-70mm-Soundtrack-Strikes-Back/post/248874/#TopicPost248874
1977.xx.xx : Star Wars 70mm In-Theater Audio Recording Loews Astor Plaza, NYC & Loews Orpheum - Belbucus
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/70mm-mix-to-93-mix-comparison/post/242587/
1977.xx.xx : Star Wars Pre-Episode IV Bootleg - MeBeJedi - 77_ANH_BOOTLEG (pan & scan)
–http://homepage.ntlworld.com/russdawson/gtf/dvd/OT/1977boot.html
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Does-Anyone-Have-The-Old-Original-Theater-Bootleg-77-Tape/topic/3250/
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/1977-77_ANH_BOOTLEG-1.html
1977.xx.xx : Star Wars Pre-Episode IV Bootleg - The Starkiller - SWIVBOOT (pan & scan)
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Does-Anyone-Have-The-Old-Original-Theater-Bootleg-77-Tape/post/172311/#TopicPost172311
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/1977-SWIVBOOT-1.html
1977.xx.xx : Star Wars Pre-Episode IV Bootleg - TREADWELL TWC326 - SWIVBOOT (pan & scan)
–http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC326
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/topic/12627/
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/1977-TWC326_SWB-1.html
1977.xx.xx : Pre.A.New.Hope.Bootleg.Telecine.WS.Mot3r.version.XVID - mthr (widescreen)
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Pre-ANH-bootleg-telecine-a-widescreen-version/topic/6994/
–http://originaltrilogy.com/fan-edits/fan-project-details.cfm/Workprints-and-Bootlegs/title/Star-Wars/project/36/category/8/
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/1977-mthr-swtc1.html
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/1977-PreANH-WS-BOOTLEG1-1.html
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/1977-PreANH-WS-BOOTLEG2-1.html
1977.xx.xx : German Bootleg - Pre-Episode IV
–http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPzeZkUyfAg
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/1977-Krieg_der_Sterne-ultrara.html
1978.04.24 : Star Wars 70mm In-Theater Audio Recording - L.Mayer (Mrs. BrianM) - D.C. Crowd Interaction
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Closest-to-1977-release/post/216375/#TopicPost216375
CIhttp://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Theater-Performance-Preservations/post/470206/#TopicPost470206 [Crowd Interaction Notes]
1977.xx.xx : Star Wars 70mm In-Theater Audio Recording - BrianM - San Diego
1977.xx.xx : Star Wars In-Theater Audio Recording - BFrazer - Colorado (lost)
1977.xx.xx : Star Wars In-Theater Audio Recording - Scofield version - Cine Capri. Phoenix, Arizona
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Is-this-amateur-audio-recording-of-any-use/post/568973/#TopicPost568973
1978.xx.xx : Star Wars Bootleg VHS - PS78
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/NEW-possibly-2nd-Generation-77-78-Bootleg/topic/14341/
1977.xx.xx : Star Wars In-Theater Audio Recording - William Forsche
–http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxBafn2t5v4

Honorable Mentions:
1977.xx.xx : Star Wars 16mm Telecine Transfer - Puggo GRANDE [16mm]
–http://www.hardbat.com/puggo/home.html
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Puggo-GRANDE-16mm-restoration/topic/9752/
1977.xx.xx : Pre.A.New.Hope.Bootleg.Telecine - catnap source (widescreen) [16mm]
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Pre-ANH-bootleg-telecine-a-widescreen-version/post/365264/#TopicPost365264
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/1977-Catnap-1.html
1977.xx.xx : Stjärnornas Krig 16mm Telecine Transfer - Puggo [16mm Swedish transfer]
–http://www.hardbat.com/puggo/home.html
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Stj-rnornas-Krig-Swedish-16mm-print/topic/11896/
1977.xx.xx : Star Wars / Empire Strikes Back Super-8 Transfer - The Puggo Edition
–http://www.hardbat.com/puggo/home.html
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Puggo-Edition-webpage-and-screenshots/topic/6830/
1979.xx.xx : Star Wars - Airlines copy
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Closest-to-1977-release/post/221353/#TopicPost221353

1980 - Empire Strikes Back
1980.xx.xx : ESB 70mm In-Theater Audio Recording - morgands1
–http://www.wideanglecloseup.com/starwarsaudio.html
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/ESB-70mm-Soundtrack-1980-in-theatre-recording/topic/12501/page/1/
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/ESB-1980-70mm-soundtrack-In-theatre-recording/topic/12505/
1980.xx.xx : ESB_TP Betamax - Video_Collector (Qatar)
–http://home.online.no/~frinilse/starwarsonvideo/ (Betamax - bottom)
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/1980-ESB_TP-1.html
1980.xx.xx : ESB VHS NYC
–http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/39615#comment_2428908
1981.xx.xx : ESB 1981 Betamax Bootleg
–http://forums.dealmac.com/read.php?1,1946060,1946278,report=1
1980.xx.xx : ESB Drive-In
–http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=17039&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=1918727
1980.xx.xx : ESB Drive-In Audio
–http://www.chud.com/articles/articles/23797/1/EMPIRE-STRIKES-BACK-IS-30–WE-THAT-SAW-IT-WELL-BEST-NOT-TO-DWELL-ON-AGE/Page1.html
1980.xx.xx : ESB In-Theater Audio Recording - Scofield version - Cine Capri. Phoenix, Arizona
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Is-this-amateur-audio-recording-of-any-use/post/568973/#TopicPost568973

Honorable Mentions:
1980.xx.xx : ESB 16mm Telecine Transfer - Puggo Strikes Back [16mm widescreen (‘scope’) print]
–http://www.hardbat.com/puggo/home.html
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Puggo-Strikes-Back/topic/12548/

1983 - Return of the Jedi
1983.xx.xx : ROTJ_TP Betamax Cropped/Pan/Scan - Video_Collector (Qatar)
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/1983-ROTJ_TP-1.html
1983.xx.xx : ROTJ VHS Cropped/Pan/Scan - TREADWELL TWC328
–http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC328
–http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/topic/12627/
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/1983-TWC328_ROTJB-1.html
1983.06.18 : Hastings UK £5,000 REWARD Bounty
–http://www.starwarsmovieposter.com/popups/ukrotjreward.htm

1997 - Special Editions

ANH
Star Wars Engrish - Special Edition???
–http://www.opticalsin.com/sw_engrish/main_anh.html
ESB

RotJ
1997.xx.xx : RotJ:SE Chinese bootleg awesomely bad subtitles!
–http://www.oocities.com/e3s/stubblecat.html

Honorable Mentions:
1995.xx.xx : Return of the Jedi SE Workprint (temp tracks) Avid
–http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqRmWI6VAtc (ending)

1999 - The Phantom Menace
1998.11.13 : TPM Trailer attached to ‘Meet Joe Black’
–http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqcrzE9pZOQ&feature=player_embedded
1999.05.xx : ‘Z’ (TPM1&2.mpg 650mb)
–http://jona82.tripod.com/
–http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2009/05/the-10th-aniversary-of-the-death-of-the-modern-film-industry/
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/1999-TPMZ-1.html
1999.05.xx : TPMVHSNYC - New York City VHS Bootleg
–http://noneinc.com/TPMVHSNYC/TPMVHSNYC-index.html
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/1999-TPMVHSNYC-1.html
1999.05.xx : The Phantom Menace Cam - TREADWELL TWC240
–http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC240
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/1999-TWC240_TPMB-1.html
1999.05.xx : Dis-man
–http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/spatafore.htm
1999.05.xx : ‘AB’

2002 - Attack of the Clones
2002.05.08 : AotC Yoda (Spider-Man) Trailer
–http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLZ5IDVxsBs&feature=related
2002.05.10 : TS.CD1&2.FTF- telesync
–http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/41232-Attack-of-the-Clones-on-the-net
–http://sharereactor.com/release/1660-star-wars-2-attack-of-the-clones-2002-telesync-ftf.htm
2002.05.22 : Star.Wars.Episode.II.Attack.of.the.Clones.SVCD-Centropy AKA CTP (3 bin/cue)
2002.05.xx : starwars.ep2cd1&2.mpg
2002.05.xx : Cinema (ep2a/b.mpg)
–Might be same as “starwars.ep2cd1&2.mpg”
2002 - Attack of the Clones IMAX

2005 - Revenge of the Sith
2005.05.22 : Star Wars Episode III - TUN-sith (CDx3)
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/2005-TUN-sith1.html
2005.05.29 : Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith - Cyrillic Crawl (camcd1&2) [might be same as 3bin/cue version]
2005.05.xx : Star.Wars.Episode.III.Revenge.of.the.Sith.TC.XviD-MoF
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/2005-mof-sith-1.html
2005.05.xx : aAF ep3 digital projection rip

Honorable Mentions:
2005.05.17 : Star.Wars.Episode.3.Revenge.of.the.Sith.WP.DVDR-ViSA [Workprint]
–http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/95865-Star-Wars-Episode-III-Revenge-of-the-Sith-%28WP%29
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/2005-ROTSViSA-1.html
2005.05.19 : Star.Wars.Episode.3.Revenge.of.the.Sith.WP.DVDR-ViSA [Workprint] OAR (Original Aspect Ratio)
::http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/2005-ROTSOAR-1.html

2008 - The Clone Wars
2008.08.19 : Star.Wars.The.Clone.Wars SceneAccess
2008.08.20 : Star.Wars.The.Clone.Wars.TS.mVCD-DCvCD - The Dark Carnival (nfo 08.29??)
2008.08.21 : Star.Wars.The.Clone.Wars.READ.NFO.TS.XviD-COALiTiON (.nfo 08.29??)
2008.08.25 : Star.Wars.The.Clone.Wars 2BROTHERs (German Audio)
2008.08.xx : Star.Wars.The.Clone.Wars.2008.TELESYNC.XviD-TRADINGSTANDARDS
2008.08.xx :Star.Wars.The.Clone.Wars.TS.MD.German.XViD-CPG
2008.08.xx :Star.Wars.The.Clone.Wars.FRENCH.TS.MD.XviD-WaTeRMaRK

2015 - Star Wars - The Force Awakens
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/921897#TopicPost921897

2016 - Star Wars - Rogue One
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1172215#TopicPost1172215

2017 - Star Wars - The Last Jedi
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1206044#TopicPost1206044

2018 - Solo : A Star Wars Story
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1322036#TopicPost1322036

2019 - Star Wars - The Rise of Skywalker
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1322037#TopicPost1322037

EDIT

Am looking for leads, comments alluding to other recordings.  If you’ve got the name/location of some old SW forum which might have a searchable archive, please post or pm, will do some searching to find someone who might have spilled the beans about some old recordings.  Also searching through books/magazines/newspapers/tv reports for information which describes the larger context.  For instance each movie had someone prosecuted so those kind of stories, also Copyright Law Journals talk about the instances and give odd details like how many copies of each film were lost/stolen when in theaters.

For those rejects interested: ((pl1x@earthlink.net))

Thanks for checking into it Moth3r.  Asking that community to willingly pro-offer information is a long shot.  It has been 5+ years and maybe now people might be more willing to discuss what took place, for all sides to re-examine the details and see larger issues.

There's a few forum posts online which reference the potUK Sith leak:

http://207.234.224.227/archive/index.php/t-2892.html

carpboy

18th May 2005, 04:18 PM

its on pot uk m8,by some guy with a 30kbps up,a screener with a countdown timer at the top of screen.
the samples also on uk-t :bow:
its 1.4 gig iso image,and looking at the sample looks good apart from the larger than average countdown timers :D
Trouble is theres one seeder and 400 leechers :rant:

carpboy

18th May 2005, 11:20 PM

i can confirm this is not a fake :clap2: :clap2:
just been confirmed on the forums by someone whos just completed download :yes: :yes: :yes:

6 (maybe upto 12) hours for they all waited for this file.  The details are probably a little off, since Elite Torrents was to have had the file pre-May 19th and from random bits it sounds like possible the potUK torrents was lifted by thepiratebay and it was a user from TPB who took it to Elite Torrents.  Somewhere in that chain it got RAR'd which is more or a usenet practice then torrents, so well the details are still sketchy, atm.

Currently looking at the RotS leak (ViSA workprint) file for tidbits of info.  Have a thread in the How-To section for recommendations/ideas on sleuthing or forensic ways to examine the files:  Feel free to add something here or there.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/VIDEO-TS-sleuthing-forensics-How-can-I-and-what-could-I-learn/topic/12158/

One of the clues that this file is the leak file is the Title/Chapter structure.  The 2 VOBs are split into 5 Titles, four of which have 99 chapter, the first having 94.  These chapters line up with every consecutive camera change.

plus I do not know how to have a selectable crawl option on the DVD

One way to do it is to use the Playlist option of DVDs.  The main video file has the whole movie and both crawls, one after the other, this will cut down on the search time when transitioning from the chapter marker points.  The playlist is made up of the Chapter Markers, and you skip the crawl which is not being used.  (i'm using the terminology from DVD Studio Pro, might be called something else in the programs you are using)

Another option would be multi-angle / alternative angle, heard about it but haven't done it myself. 

The playlist option just means there's extra video to be accounted for, the multi-angle might work like having a second audio channel, where it affects the bit-rate of the video encoding, but not sure.

Kenkraly2007 wrote:

I am not a troll stop calling me that stop ok. All you like to do is make fun of me just because I have a different opinion than you guys. Enough is enough allready.

You are quite wrong again.  You are one of the definitions of a troll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response^[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion

Kenkraly2007 you are the first definition, "Inflammatory".  Yes you have an opinion and it's fine to have one, and it's ok to post it periodically, but the moment you post that same opinion, it's been about 20 times already with no other added information, you are inflammatory.

This thread is to discuss the upcoming blu-ray.  What people have done for the most part is discuss what they would like to see from the release but also what LFL has done in the past.  Those details/facts of past releases generate an impression of what's going to happen.  The moment you post once that you think everything will be ok, that's the end of your contribution to the thread.  We've got it, you think it will be ok.  But when people respond with posts which inform by brining up details unknown to the thread previously, that's called being helpful.  When you respond with the same opinion worded differently, that's the essence of being a troll.  If I went into every thread and posted "I like this" after every statement, that's being a troll. 

The moment you make your opinion known, you have to learn to contribute to the thread differently, this is usually done by bringing up facts from somewhere else or ideas unknown.  Really ask your parents to explain this to you.

and while you are talking to them, discuss why you need to edit every post.  Maybe you should write your response, save them to draft, then reread them 10 minutes later, then post them.

And I know how to read I am not some little child.

There is a difference between reading and comprehension.  If you are not a little child, you are either still a child, english is not your first language, or something else.

But I give you credit for being able to do very little and gather attention, but if you keep this up, you're going to have a very difficult life.

Sounds like phun, looking forward to seeing what's been done.  Could you provide any information on these 'new scripts'?  curious how they work.

Kenkraly2007 wrote:

Fine good riddance  and those saying the colors won't be fixed and their won't be a new transfer of the films in HD I think there will be.

Thinking there will be (an opinion) and having facts, proof, a statistic, a stat, a shred of evidence, a quote, a corroborating statement, or anything similar are two vastly different things.  btw.  how is the search for your angel going?

Yeah you're right it's not the VOBs (file type, there's only two, now that I check) was looking at the Title/Chapters, and konphuz'd.  Never seen a single movie split between multiple Titles.

So two VOBs which contain 5 Titles each containing 99 chapters except for the first which has 94.

Ok poking around for some hex editors on the mac side.  First one tried having problems scrolling.

But did realize something about the DVD.  There are 5 VOBs at a resolution of 352x240.  So why split up the movie into so many VOBs?  The answer is in the chapters, the first VOB has 94 chapters and the others 99.  and they are perfectly keyed into each change of camera.  So for those looking to do color revision work, pulling out the chapter timecodes from this thing will get you a step forward in that direction.  and that's more or less the nail in the coffin that the original leak was not from a VHS source.

No so much a mystery, people in different places know the details.  I'm attempting to pull those pieces together to see the larger whole.

For instance, someone confessed to being the leak, and there are court docs which are collaborated by online postings that the leak was to an online forum. (trying to get an invite to said forum to read what went down internally)  Now what was actually given to that forum, i'm still unclear.  Was it a VHS rip or the .ISO?  maybe sleuthing this file might help.  Then the question once it got into this forum, did it get repackaged?  When did it get RAR'd?  Have found posts about the Elite Torrent version which mention it being RAR'd.  Also interesting that since the leak went through the UK why didn't anyone over there get any penalties?  Star Wars is beloved over there as well, and the UK/US governments are on friendly terms.  Also interesting that Elite Torrents were several stops down the line, yet they went down, and with that precedent why not more cases, every year there is a leak of every movie?  Another odd thing was the FBI takedowns were pushed back a month, since every movie was leaked makes sense to wait for the biggest of the year, but who makes that call?  There was a newly installed Assistant Attorney General, was it known he was more simpathetic to this cause?  horrible hobby, but getting back to the thread:

From the VIDEO_TS files is it possible to determine source?  The other oddity is it's resolution, about half typical DVD res.  Could that have been done to hide the VHS source or was this a common practice to save time?

info of the larger whole will be at:

http://noneinc.com/tBSWM/tBSWM_FAQ.html

or discussion here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/topic/7758/