kg1977

nightstalkerpoet said:

Actually, what about combining the methods? Using automated color tools to add color information into the picture, then using color match to adjust those colors?

Perhaps someone familiar with Matlab could help with this? Looks like it could be pretty amazing for establishing a base image to match from. http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~yweiss/Colorization/

thx for sharing the matlab link …that is crazy. best auto match tool I have seen in adobe premier’s match function with after effects for the slight correct after (if needed). but it’s getting a color picture base to start from. I may have to look into that stuff in the link. I am doing an extended version of EP 4-6 as was not going to include BW, but after seeing that wow! Now we can actually add those scenes in and have it be seemless (from a technology standpoint)

Here’s a 1K wide comparison (previewing in google has more compression than the final now complete as 1920 wide full res. Also, when comparing to Adywan’s excellent work, all I am doing is pulling out for detail from the UHD. The rest of the movie is probably fine using the 1080P master. I am not trying to claim a better compare, just different. In some respects some may prefer darker and not see the detail since it is a windowless room they are in, I felt this particular section deserved a UHD to HD conversion with extra attention for what I wanted to see and later I may try a hybrid using masking where shadows stay 100% black for best of both worlds. Curious to what other prefer.

PM me if anyone wants a link to the final source video.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EtiJA0qE19_feIEwTAl60B1xEhMcrw_n/view?usp=sharing

benduwan said:

i think it´s a bit to bright and yellow.
adywan has done a good job with this.
remember,it´s a windowless room in the crawler that drive in the night.should more darkness…

@benduwan…take a look at the PDF again I had the wrong screen shots in there(you may need to hit refresh in case in cache.) For the Gonk I uploaded a bad correction that had way more yellow than it should have. Also there are two appearances of the Gonk in which one is better. I have added that one as well for comparison. Adywans recent color grade 1080 (not his current re-work) was used as the color reference so the green I have for the dome junk item in the foreground for the Gonk scene is closer to his green, but may still have some more tweaking later. Anyway, I think this corrected verison is much better than the first link you saw.

In regards to what should be seen for a scene that theoretically is pitch black (no windows at night etc). There are 2 camps of thought here.

1. make the scene as dark as possible but can still make out main items of focus (gonk droid, maybe the green dome of junk, the floor, the foreground etc. - enhance colors seen (adywan current)

2. The other (and my current take on it) is show as much of the lost hidden detail not recoverable for 44+ years due to not having the technology (UHD, software to pull detail out etc), while all still not making it over bright or hazy.

Also, as I am lucky enough to have a home theater projector, watching large really reveals more that may have been missed, but scenes that are very dark and low contrast struggle some times. 3D TV/projector version for viewing (planned) is tougher in addressing dark scenes, due to basically wearing sunglasses in addition, so I went for the option to show as much detail as can get away with, but still feel like it is inside/dark etc.

For the Sandcrawler inside at night scenes itself, I am just amazed at all the work of props that for the most part, you never saw before and that had to place or made by hand back then. Was a shame it has always been lost until now.

I do respect there are personal choices and those that may want more detail but darker for this particular scene than what I have currently, so I can safely say at this point, all it takes is to darken scenes a little more than they are with just a simple brightness/contrast adjust in your tool of choice. **Update: I posted a sample of the finished scene below and PM me if you want to full version to check out on your own equipment.

Thanks for your feedback! as I may have kept going forward and missed that color mistake I made until much later. Fan opinions are always much appreciated.

IlFanEditore said:

Sounds intriguing! I hope you’ll share some screenshots or clips, sooner or later 😉

Got some new After Effects Plugins for restoration at discount for black Friday sale. Here is some first samples using them on some tough scenes. The focus is pulling out the detail from shadows and boosting contrast. While I did use Adywan color grade version only as a base to compare, the actual “after” is from UHD downscaled to 1080P so get that hidden detail and then had to tweak the image color quite a bit to match what it should be. Technically these are detail enhancement verses color grading. For grading I may need to do some masking which is more work and later on in the process. On the deleted scene samples, there are no UHD versions so it is the 1080P of those. I plan to do Dust and scratch removal later and they will get some more misc enhancements, but that will require frame by frame work, so its more involved…just wanted to share some test so far. still moving on to try and finish the entire movie as far as full timeline as a first draft to work off of.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tnHL2O9gaXJoR1TRJF-O6ljFNlbSjk0l/view?usp=sharing

adywan said:

kg1977 said:

does the reedit of this (planned but not start) in 720P HD version really mean 816 x 1920? bluray size of empire revisited is this I believe. And if I am understanding this right, there is a 816 x 1920 adywan regarded version already (minus the additions)?

The HD version of ANH:R will be 1080p, same as ESB:R & the upcoming ROTJ:R. There is a 1080p regraded version of ANH that i released that used the 2011 Blu-ray as a source

@adywan, Nice to see this coming along…Love the alderaan explosion. To have that is HD will be amazing!

benduwan said:

kg1977 said:

benduwan said:

is there a list of deletet scenes you will use? i added some behind the scenes and pics for my version…
thanks

@banduwan, so what is your version?

my name is benduwan…😉 you should it downloadet,you recieve a pm for a week or so…

is it extended with deleted video + pictures where pictures fill when video does not exist or other?

yes

I see it now…downloading…It’s in the RAR file…will check it out…thx

CamSMurph said:

Any deleted scenes you won’t be using?

yes,

Not planning to add
-extra scenes from luke and treadwell that are too rough and beyond restore (these are the close ups from I believe empire of dreams and very heavy tinted blue)
-alternate takes of the same scenes
-bigs and luke on Yavin where there is mention from squad leader that he flew with anakin
-There is quite a bit from the radio drama that just did not fit the feel or was really over the top extra

benduwan said:

kg1977 said:

benduwan said:

is there a list of deletet scenes you will use? i added some behind the scenes and pics for my version…
thanks

Sorry took so long to compile, but here is my shot list. Bold is deleted scenes, where as non-bold would be new made from radio drama audio and some compositing other shots, new shots etc.

Cockpit Tantive IV arriving at skarif
• Leia enters the fleet above skarif shortly after the Raddus, which was supposed to be here escort to Tatooine. The scenes cuts to some new scenes inside the Tantive IV’s cockpit and inside then Raddus where Leia is instructed to dock inside for protection.

Imperial Officer Scenes & Vader After Skarif
• After Vader returns from the raddus, there is dialogue between him and officer about tracking the Rebels which has now jumped to hyperspace (end of R1). Vader’s Devastator enters hyperspace in pursuit.

Hallway Tantive IV, Antilles and Leia Enroute To Tatooine
• Captain Antilles talks to the droids and instructs them to go to go to a certain area of the ship for now + follow all orders of leia that may come. Leia informs Antilles of the mission they must proceed with, being to get plans to jedi general and that Tatooine is next stop.

sounds good so far without the R1 stuff.i don´t like it in the old movie…

R1 stuff only because it was in the radio drama and just an alternate way to watch were the two movies are bridged I always saw R1 as Episode 3.99. Very easy to have opening crawl novel SE version or classic and just edit to pick up where ANH traditionally starts. Right now my focus in on the main movie anyhow. sorry typed your name wrong it was very late 😃 and was rushing

benduwan said:

is there a list of deletet scenes you will use? i added some behind the scenes and pics for my version…
thanks

@banduwan, so what is your version? is it extended with deleted video + pictures where pictures fill when video does not exist or other?

…also for anyone who can answer, I am not familiar with the mentioned scene below as taken from the database of deleted scenes? I assume this is maybe on empire of dreams that you can see on Disney channel or maybe find the clip on youtube?

• C-3PO walking on Tatooine BD behind the scenes (00:07) ***

benduwan said:

is there a list of deletet scenes you will use? i added some behind the scenes and pics for my version…
thanks

Sorry took so long to compile, I am now putting the shot list at the start of this tread.

benduwan said:

some updates on this?

Progress - Now posted at the first post in this thread

benduwan said:

maybe some sites that could help you:
http://starwars.rossiters.com/index.html
https://starwarz.com/tbone/
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Clean-up-and-restoration-of-deleted-scenes-unfinished-project/id/13327
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Info-cleaning-up-dirty-frames-for-scenes/id/14044
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Info-Wanted-Colorized-Classics-is-anyone-preserving-them/id/9758
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Extras-on-SW-laserdiscs-and-not-on-DVD-or-BD/id/15232
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-OT-BONUS-materials-repository/id/15985
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Guide-to-Star-Wars-Documentaries-and-Special-Features/id/75409
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Radio-Drama-update-in-1st-post-completed-review/id/7900/page/1
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-saga-Extra-Extended-Edition-1080p-unfinished-project-WIP/id/52131
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-deleted-and-extended-scenes-database/id/51879

Thanks benduwan…I’, only through first 3 links and already seeing some things for the first time!

benduwan said:

kg1977 said:

benduwan said:

maybe a extended discuss between han and leia after escape from the deathstar with The 1975 Casting Auditions?
this fan do this in his version :https://www.starwars-union.de/star-wars/bdfc_anh_trailer/
push Version 2004 (11 MB, 4 Minuten 24 Sekunden)

Never saw that actually, I’ll have to add that, but hopefully a better quality footage somewhere?

what do you mean with…“but hopefully a better quality footage”…?
there is only the black & white casting record.
used the audio with exists movie scenes…

Meant audio and already have grabbed the 2 existing reads. There appears to be 2 takes/a longer one available when I looked.

exitzero said:

kg1977 said:

CamSMurph said:

Newly filmed footage? I hope your camera is good enough.

For newly filmed, I plan to not really do real sets, but do nearly all compositing live actors against existing footage background rotoscoped to clean background plates. Aspect ratio of finished composite will match though. Actor shots would be as much as I can get away with not showing faces, but where faces are needed, plan to use deepfake/similar technology to map faces than synced over to actual actor performances from radio drama etc.

Hoping I can pull it off and be seamless or near. full edit without extra shot footage to be done first.

Camera would be gopro or similar 4K (more than I need just for the body shots on green screen). Nothing fancy… Will probably more effort in composting than doing a location shoot but I dont live near the desert or have access to real set 😃

Will post a first sample clip of a “deep fake” new scene before year end. I have a near completed edit of extra 3CPO and R2 scenes when they land on Tatooine using existing footage and various angles that allow the extra scene to blend in. Anthony voices from this extended scenes in radio drama of course, so that makes it extremely easy to pull off.

I am sure most here are familiar with the actors and lines from the radio drama, but here is rundown of original actor performances for extra scenes, I have to work with.

-ANH
Anthony D
Mark H
Bigs (Garrick Hagon) does not perform, but Kale Browne is very close and with audio software I almost have an exact match to Garrick
Alec G, again not performing, but Bernard Behrens is very close as well and with audio software I almost have an exact match

needs work:
Vader -Brock Peters to me sounds nothing like James, but there are plenty of ways to get the voice, actually not many vader extra scenes have talking
Solo - Perry King from the RadioD can come close to harrison, but we’ll see, there are plenty of audio clips of harrison I plan to use to recreate what lines I need + will deal with it when it comes
Leia - Ann Sachs is somewhat over dramatize for a Leia, but can get close carrie with digital adjustments + of course carrie’s movie lines and words from her list films should be enough options. Like vader I don’t see too many additional speaking for leia

for ESB (orignal actors)
Billy D
Anthony D
Mark H

for ROTJ (orignal actors)
Anthony D

I hear about these kind of Voice mimic programs, but I don’t know how well they actually work-

https://www.phocuswire.com/Baidu-AI-app-voice-recognition

wow …another good find…I was planning on just adjusting current acted radio drama voice/s…but these software (like deep fake for vouce) appears to capture voice and then anything typed is played back…might sound flat or no emotion, but maybe with speed or overlay on top of an acted voice might be something (same here on not knowing how well works)…has to be some demos out there…thanks for the lead

benduwan said:

maybe a extended discuss between han and leia after escape from the deathstar with The 1975 Casting Auditions?
this fan do this in his version :https://www.starwars-union.de/star-wars/bdfc_anh_trailer/
push Version 2004 (11 MB, 4 Minuten 24 Sekunden)

Never saw that actually, I’ll have to add that, but hopefully a better quality footage somewhere?

CamSMurph said:

Newly filmed footage? I hope your camera is good enough.

For newly filmed, I plan to not really do real sets, but do nearly all compositing live actors against existing footage background rotoscoped to clean background plates. Aspect ratio of finished composite will match though. Actor shots would be as much as I can get away with not showing faces, but where faces are needed, plan to use deepfake/similar technology to map faces than synced over to actual actor performances from radio drama etc.

Hoping I can pull it off and be seamless or near. full edit without extra shot footage to be done first.

Camera would be gopro or similar 4K (more than I need just for the body shots on green screen). Nothing fancy… Will probably more effort in composting than doing a location shoot but I dont live near the desert or have access to real set 😃

Will post a first sample clip of a “deep fake” new scene before year end. I have a near completed edit of extra 3CPO and R2 scenes when they land on Tatooine using existing footage and various angles that allow the extra scene to blend in. Anthony voices from this extended scenes in radio drama of course, so that makes it extremely easy to pull off.

I am sure most here are familiar with the actors and lines from the radio drama, but here is rundown of original actor performances for extra scenes, I have to work with.

-ANH
Anthony D
Mark H
Bigs (Garrick Hagon) does not perform, but Kale Browne is very close and with audio software I almost have an exact match to Garrick
Alec G, again not performing, but Bernard Behrens is very close as well and with audio software I almost have an exact match

needs work:
Vader -Brock Peters to me sounds nothing like James, but there are plenty of ways to get the voice, actually not many vader extra scenes have talking
Solo - Perry King from the RadioD can come close to harrison, but we’ll see, there are plenty of audio clips of harrison I plan to use to recreate what lines I need + will deal with it when it comes
Leia - Ann Sachs is somewhat over dramatize for a Leia, but can get close carrie with digital adjustments + of course carrie’s movie lines and words from her list films should be enough options. Like vader I don’t see too many additional speaking for leia

for ESB (orignal actors)
Billy D
Anthony D
Mark H

for ROTJ (orignal actors)
Anthony D

Just joined, and letting all know of my An New Hope extended that I am working on. I actually started this one 6 years ago in 2015 and now it’s back on, since I have some time and have finally built up a new machine that can handle some of the edits

Short summary of this version:

Specs:
• Adywan 2K color grade as the base (resolution of this version is 1920 x 816)
• 120+ extra restored scenes or corrected shots (final res, same 2K)
• Adywan revisted’s FX (another 200+ shots) upscaled & composited into 2K base where applicable
• 5.1 audio from Adywan’s 2K base
• Radio Drama audio (where used), converted to 5.1

Note: this post has recently been updated (September 2025) to include the PDF full shotlist that will be constantly updated by same link. You can view this PDF by the following link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19BQWrM2O--XmOTVyoPc47Son5kwpEOQi/view?usp=sharing

does the reedit of this (planned but not start) in 720P HD version really mean 816 x 1920? bluray size of empire revisited is this I believe. And if I am understanding this right, there is a 816 x 1920 adywan regarded version already (minus the additions)?

Can you PM links to you upscales…much appreciated!