kg1977

ifjg said:

Shouldn’t it be possible to clean up the “sith lord” audio at least a little bit with AI? Would be cool to see it somehow worked it in while Vader is outside the meeting room, followed by cutting to the meeting and playing the scene normally until he comes in.

Over the christmas break I am going to try and finish the sandstorm restored visually removing all scratches etc. I found a new free AI audio restoration tool that has a 7 day demo and was going to have a go at the audio for sandstorm (or the wind machines as it is). I may go ahead and take a stab at sith lord audio and see how it does Will post if others want to see if they can be used. There is a lot of different ways to cut that scene to try and include the sith lord line. Obviously the video with him talking is completely unusable, but if the audio can be saved, might be something to revisit.

Fullmetaled said:

I wish more or all surviving deleted scenes from the original trilogy would be officially released because we know they exist like in a new hope the Sith Lord mentioned. makes you wonder what other gems are locked away from us same with even the prequel trilogy. 😦

I think disney is considering “officially released” as what we get on disney channel. but there are some of the obscure stuff, that is so bad I don’t see them releasing, which is too bad. A couple to note:

Originals of:
-Extra shots of Obiwan at the tracker beam control (different angles)
-Some additional shots in mos eisley streets
-The extra ~3 sec in board room with “Sith Lord mentioned”
-severed head in cantina (although this is just an alternate vs the arm and I think ommitting this is better)
-extra shot at tosche outside with actors (some of this could be used to fill in and there has to be better as mentioned)
-extra shots of luke and treadwell (not ones in deleted scene)
-extra shot of vader walking in the tantive (only seen as a photo-but obviously was a moving shot)

I plan to use parts of the obiwan tracker beam cuts and mos eisley later though in ANH-X I think I can make these work as they are not too bad just need some work and creative editing to put them in

Ronster said:

as Far as the opening goes I have to do sound for Luke Binoculars do you think if we cut from the planet surface to space instead of Panning down it would pan up from the planet to space?There is more tattooine planet matte painting to achieve this more than is shown in the film anyway.

Ronstar, what was you beginning with treadwell and luke and binocs going to be? or were you only going to have treadwell later and not in the beginning?

In my version, I was going to have an extra shot of the tantive and star destroyer above tantooine literly a top down shot and then the cut would be to surface where we see the sky w/very small blinks being the ships with the naked eye to tie them together and of course move right into luke at the vaporator scene so you get the idea that he is directly below and ties into what he sees the ships (more clearly) in the macrobinoculars. I am sure you can find some macrobiocular noise from somewhere else in the films and use that, but not sure where you need it?, do you plan to use it when he is looking at the ships?

I have sorted out somewhat the music and sound for an escape pod being destroyed before they are clamped in this was to go in the fanfare that plays on Star Destroyer coming over the tantive this also solves the “There goes another one” gunner line issue.

I had never thought of adding another escape pod that was not with R2 and 3PO as I just assumed they were others when they say the line “there goes another one”

I have a soundmix somewhat prepared for Tosche station scene where Luke runs into the bar.

I almost have this scene finished, but I keep moving to other things 😃 I might have just the interior first cut tomorrow. I had not thought far enough ahead yet as to music to put here, but interested in what you planned. I have seen a few other cuts where music was added but it was music as if they are listening to pre-recorded music inside (radio, playback, jukebox…whatever they would have inside)

I think the cut music from the radio drama when Han and Luke part ways at Yavin Base when they are loading boxes is possibly a music cue for Luke having the binoculars chucked at him

Interested in what you found here as well as I also have not finished this yet, also I plan to use the lines in the radio drama here where he mentions they are expensive when she throws them back. I am so close on just wrapping up these that I should just finish them…been working more on ESB deleted scenes as Adywan has a 1080P version of that and I could add and call it a version 1 well before getting ROJ and ANH.

I say this because it sounds very similar to the escape pod going towards Tattooine music cue but obviously this cue would then take us back up to the Tantive IV and captured princess Leia.

yes if it ties the scenes together I think it would be a good choice

I have a piece of music that I think will work well for the bar scene also.
Do mean inside the station? I never thought of it as a bar(it’s more of a garage and hangout in ANH I think (becomes a bar later I guess in book of Boba), but they do have drinks inside in ANH 😃…very interested in what you found for music (It needs something in that scene in the background but not over taking all the talking). So I had always thought that maybe they had music playing in the background which may be interesting and might be the way I take it not sure yet. I don’t like Jedi Rock as the jabba palace song and planned to use lapti nek in my ROJ version, but jedi rock in the background might work for the station since they are playing an arcade game and they are young…and the scene feels upbeat and very “music in a hangout place” …not sure yet

Do you have the extra shot where they leave the bar in your possession? from what I understand, it is quite low quality it’s not necessarily needed but it’s an extra shot…

Do you mean this one?

not sure if salvageable screenshot about as good as it would ever get unless they release better and need to have half of the image widen and this is the 340 x 600 never seen it larger

Do you think when Luke runs up the stairs towards the Bar we should see the escape pod in the sky?

3PO and R2s escape pod lands very very far from tosche/anchorhead if you look at the tatooine maps out there. If you have a pod falling in this scene? I would place it to let the viewing understood it is another pod (the other one when they say there goes another one). Not sure if the scene needs and seems like luke might notice it falling, but that might be ok and add to the scene…would have to see the FX completed to understand if it fits or would just be unneeded not sure. adding a compare clip from mine so far…

Here is my final go at the Vader Scene and I included the Treadwell being shot edit to show how I think it was meant to go also. I hope you like my final take on this 😃

I believe Luke and treadwell were meant for the beginning as in the novel and radio drama it is clear he is on the farm with them and sees the battle. I think its kind of where people expect it, but your take is artistic choice so I would say it’s what feels right to you. If you add there I would show additional shot of the homestead burning with a composited treadwell of center and some story troopers from some footage then treadwell getting shot so there is more context to where he is and what you are seein (that it is taking place miles away)

Working on the wampa attack in base scene and wondering if anyone has the full scene in better than 1280 x 720. I am have the scene from Bobson’s leftovers that is 1920 x 816, but it is missing the shots of R2 coming down the hall that I want + the wampa entering (same scene closer in). See the shots below. On the closeup, the wampa body is bottom right you can almost not tell its him in the sample, but looking to just know it is coming and not really hold on the shot to much, so need the earlier segment of that clip. Let me know if anyone has these is a higher res. Color does not need to match below as sample is more of a corrected color. If you have these scenes as original, they will be someone orange or brownish in tint. I am fine with that.

**Update, I might use the disney online clips of this as it seems to be the best unless someone has the 2011 bluray copy. I own the blurays but not the 2011 I guess. I was told those are the best master source of these, Can anyone confirm or do you have it in MP4 taken from this that you could PM me?

Slavicuss said:
It’s not a criticism of the software, I just wanted to know if it could handle that particular scene, as the audio is very poor.

I may try this weekend with Adobe Audition as a break from ESB rotoscoping activities. Usual steps (for best results) are isolate the fans from the voices as best as possible and use that as a “noise print” to cancel out the fan on the version with fans and audio, than audio can be bumped up/raised clarified with EQ etc.

For a final though, will need to add some wind noise to the scene so it still sounds like wind but not fan and so we can control or raise voices when they do speak. Not sure on software Bobson is trying out, but Adobe Audition isn’t too bad for audio work I have tried in the past…just have not tackled the sandstorm yet. Agree the sound is horrible.

Slavicuss said:

Bobson Dugnutt said:

Long time, no update, but work is always progressing. I’m trying out a fancy new program and trying to isolate some vocals. Here’s Leia tending to Luke, with all audio noise and Kersh being muted.

So what software are you using? your example so far sounds pretty clean (well improved) to me

Ronster said:

The Footage and the Sound are inseparable however you can have sound without footage and footage without sound and purposefully so yet it is the two in unison that will truly bring these scenes to life.

I agree to the sentence above. Some of the footage across the 3 films has sound and music and it is the secret sauce. Luke and Tread had none. The music I used in that one was some that made sense to me, but also if using radio drama audio Mark’s voice had to use what was behind that and blend. That particular scene that I posted is a first draft of it as I still wanted to go back and make real ships in the binocs, replacing the triangles and some other things. I am working on Yoda and Luke light sabre training and did add some music there and amazing what a difference it makes when you find something that compliments. Speaking of which, still trying to find the hi-res of the black and white portions of that scene to colorize (similar to the stills Bobson posted) if anyone has those let me know. The color scenes I have are fine. I would love to finish that scene.

Appreciate all the work others are doing and the small incremental improvements and creative choices that are attempt to find a home for these deleted scenes and fit them in with purpose and impact.

Sky_ said:
It’s Always amazing seeing other people tackle this awfully Damaged deleted footage
I can learn a lot from the process you’re doing in certain places on my Repair work

(if directed at me), then Thank you Sky_ …like I said looking at your 2018 kind of got me kickstarted in having a go at it.
I think restoration of this nature is also a process in which yes, you try something and then maybe come back later and try something else or see what others have done and it grows. I definitely understand the needing to walk away from a scene and do another after looking at the same image/s over and over 😃 as I think you may have mentioned in a post.

It’s challenging, that is for sure, sometimes I think these restorations are more work than shooting a new scene from scratch

Ronster, placing this around jabba and where they are already in mos Eisley is were I think most will place, but I am not married to it being here only an option. So definitely open to it going well before they even mention mos eisley on the overlook if the music makes more sense. Mos Eisley gets mentioned in Ben’s hut well before so at least there is some context when Basts says it in the hallway walk.

Thank you in advance for sending the raw clip you have and I can take a look. Version I have has major scratches over the last part (not sure if there is a clean version that exist?) and not sure what part of Bast’s voice you fixed? Can you point me to that as well and what your version fix has for it?

going to look again now at your first clip with it must earlier and listen to the music queues you mention.

Ronster said:

Ok I re-upped it as a much shorter clip link below.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/dyh4ovojamgv2fy/Darth_Vader_and_Bast_Mos_Eisley.mp4/file

Worked. thanks

I am not far from having this scene completed. There are some dust that I am still removing. Where you have it at in your version is fine other than the cut to wide shot of mos eisley. Its a still and very quick. did you plan to add some moving smoke or something later?

The other shot choice is to have this right after Jabba so its not leaving a scene of them walking then vader than back to a similar scene walking. I like the establishing shot of the death start before to set the scene up. There is also an alternate version of the dialogue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llCsBNgjWu0

I have both versions with dialogue downloaded and not sure which I will use, but I have a problem with the line search every house hold in the system when clearly the focus is on tatooine only and the planet is not a system. This is the the clue that this was remade for christmas special. I may use the other choice a fan has done.

I like the first part keeping mind probe and then maybe a combination of the two…also in the youtube Vader talks to much and the volume as he walks away needs to fade or just stop…so it’s not perfect, but I like having options

Also you cut out the scene with walking imperial director in white (not in screen clip) and R3-M3 the blue R2 unit on the death star we also see in background with obiwan later.

I spent some time restoring R3-M3 to have more saturated color and sharpness so I want to keep him. If I can break away from empire deleted scenes I may return to this and finish it and post, but right now trying to wrap up remaining ESB deleted

really great stuff here. Seems like you had a long break from your initial 2018 postings, glad to see your back at it here in 2022…BTW it is your work that inspired me to take focus to the deleted scenes and even my extended versions, so very excited to see your latest.

So my approach is a little different in that I am trying not to do any 3D CG at this pont and only color grade or enhance (which I am sure you will do last). My target is probably more vivid than some may want, but intent is to fit in with ANH-R color grade which is to be my base.

Your recent use of blending with the face is impressive and not what I would have thought of + seems like a lot of extra work to do unless it works (but seeing it does work in some places - very impressive).
I myself was am able to pull out details in some areas of the face using filters and Adobe tools , but the initial run inside Toshe is very damaged image and nearly impossible to pull too much out. I am still working on it, but decided to just start where he is already out of the speeder on this frame,

I am feeling it is ok after he runs by the big pipes,

but before that I struggle because the pipes are too blury and very pixelated…It’s just a mess

but seeing yours now, I see it can be done (I did not use extra turbines, but a still landspeeder model as a base my texture on top of the footage(I would just leave out the engine in that initial running in shot) if it were me or at least go just a mesh and dark as opposed to turbines spinning but again that is just me. The original does not show the rear engine, so kind of threw me when I first saw it, but it certainly is clean work you are doing with CG.

I was able to get something I was happy with on his face leaving treadwell,

but never got his hand back and hats off to your CG luke face!..would not have known you had done that if you did not call it out…fixing a hand this way might work as well…Interesting you are using a model from battlefront? It works

I see you must have done the pipes in 3D model? looks too clean to be the original? Or are they original?..I am not happy with using what is there until he passes by it and I even tried to do a perspective warp on those as he goes by, but they are not originally. My approach is to try using elements taking from the original if I can, so I have stuff on layers

…but I see your use of 3D CG as an option and a good way and it makes me re-think. I do think the houses in the background of treadwell and like scene where he is miles out in the desert are too much as the scene works without all that I think. I live around farm land and it just goes for miles with nothing, so feel that is more real for a desert farm, but each has their own take so I am not knocking it, just I don’t think you need all those extra elements. If you are offering later 2 versions for people… that works.

Your usage lately w/CG as a compliment to fix damaged stuff is really great use case though. I do like the rear shot of the landspeeder that scene only has two shots and is very boring without some extra, the side shot in itself is really damaged and lots of under exposed, so not sure how yours will look, but interested in that one. Keep up the good work. Also like your luke in the cave fix for ROJ deleted scene. The shot of R2 and like side view looks great.

Ronster said:

Commander Bast and Vader Sound Restored.

Thanks for sharing these links…downloading the first one currently and will take a look in a few

this second link below does not seem to work for me?

https://www.mediafire.com/file/t6xpgmoain98zwe/Vader_and_Bast_MOs_Eisley.mp4/file

Ronster said:

Also going back to the treadwell droid just thinking how the special edition Sandcrawler Shot might look through binoculars?

If you end up using treadwell scene as “morning of droid arrival” I have the binocs as a Photoshop and EA composition. if you want it to create a new view of distance sandcrawler…question on that if Luke sees it and then speeds back to farm is he running inside for a bit first? because we see him come outside when the jawas arrive. still works it just means he came back home and did something inside first.

Just for the record a little known deleted scene for the slaughtered Jawas was am establishing shot referenced in the script of smoke rising behind a landscape before we cut to that first shot.

This might an interesting extended shot if it is in the official script or was planned

Ronster said:

kg1977 said:

7. Search for R2 (POV in the Speeder) - 60% [SAMPLE IMAGE BELOW]
   
8. Extended sandpeople mounting their Banthas - complete

My usage of “Search for R2” deleted scene is an attempt to add in more dialogue from radio drama. This is a very raw scene shot against a projector…very cheesy. The scenes you don’t see as a still are the side shot of this (most of the scene) and I am experimenting with adding a clean plate which background looks almost like the deleted scene and is a driving side shot from a truck shot in Tunesia with what looks like near same location that someone on Youtube had (non-starwars related). The side slots in deleted have very bad color and the radio drama scene of the same (same dialogue etc.) is about 8X longer then the deleted scene we have (much will need to be cut or reused to extend)- I am interested in your cut in progress or final just to understand options to make this work. I also have some elements (photoshop layers) for “missing shot of the Landspeeder Scanner”. I had thought to improve the scanner from the existing “red on black” and incorporate into the extended scene not using deleted footage but interior shot with a 3PO arm as might have access in the future to someone who is building a life size 3PO and then making a interior cockpit shot prop (this would be in a V3 and some time off)

The bantha scene I kept (as you can see with sample) ended up only being the wide shot of the them before the close up mounting from cliff. These seemed like 2 different raiders then the ones that ground mount. The full scene of ground mount did not look or fit well even after I spent some time and not including it. I agree with your assessment of “please don’t bother cleaning that up!” It is an alternate take anyway and we get a nice clean shot of the bantha who heading off in the final film…so usage of even that long wide shot is only a very small addition.

Fruit672 said:

Guys, how do you go about downloading youtube videos? screen capture or just a converter somewhere? my laptop’s screen recorder is terrible and the website I usually go to for conversions got rid of its URL uploader.

I use the native free video downloader for chrome for Vimeo (google the extension and install)

Not finding an official google youtube extension unless have youtube red service (cash grab), so I use sites (not a fan of downloading client to do it for fear of maleware (I know this can come from sites as well)

I used Y2mate, but then some would not download, but it is good and less pop-ups

https://yt5s.io/en/youtube-to-mp4
works for all but you have to block and many dialogues to close or ignore and just know your anitvirus will constantly complain about the site trying to put adware or unsage. I dont think it is major risk, but it’s not risk free, I download on a dedicated machine (not my main editing) regardless. This site is getting ridiculous now for what you have to block ignore, close ope windows etc. Use only if you can’t find any other tool.

I may start looking at or use some of the ones mentioned in this post or go link below, since they look more “official”
Your options for what to use and what will work change all the time. - “growing” topic
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/video-downloader-professi/elicpjhcidhpjomhibiffojpinpmmpil/related?hl=en

We should probably put this topic in another post, I can move this there if that is the case or there maybe one? existing? I dont mind, but maybe others are looking for this topic and like I said it is probably one that continues to grow.

You may want to start from scratch but here’s a video where I’ve already improved the quality and made it 60 fps, no scratch removal done. This may or may not be the highest-quality version out there you just may need to compare since it was a while ago that I posted this video.

I looked at the other hi-quality and it’s a toss up, but I like yours using the AI scratch removal…I would prob drop the frame rate to do the scratches, the color I can tweak…did you do all the clips for Jedi like this or only have the sandstorm?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOndD5NX-F8&ab_channel=InfectiousSneeze

Ronster said:

There is a detail that you have missed in that clip where treadwell extends his welding arm to repair the moisture vaporater. This is animation based effect where the extended arm is paused to composite the welding effect on the droids arm.

I actually plan to back later and work more on that clip. I will need to see that missing part is, I did not think I left out any scene

After the stormtroopers in the desert “look sir droids” it could be better to create a bridge by cutting to treadwell here reparing the vaporator without Luke at all Then after he finishes his repairs he looks around and spots the sandcrawler approaching in the distance towards the lars homestead. Using this scene in this way would connect the Farm to where the Sandcrawler is approaching.

In my planned extended version, I was going to have closer to the beginning, the battle like in the radio drama, but this is also an interesting idea with the bridge after look sir droids.

Ronster said:

How well would the drunk driving PSA advert upscale for the cantina band shots?

The reason I ask is those shots are passable as being accurate where as the holiday Special shots are not location acurate such as the lack of window behind them and positioning of the band members.

The footage is not the best from that advert.

Even trying all the filters I have at it, not that good with 1080P restore version from youtube. Maybe if that better copy shows up from public domain mentioned earlier. thanks for sharing that clip idea though I did download it to have on hand. Looking now I think the Video #2 is as stated “better than the remaster” so if try it later I would use that one I think. But interested to see if a better can be found
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0JQid50UNE&ab_channel=ScratchedMedia
5 minute attempt to improve (Too blocky I would need really work on that

Fruit672 said:

You may want to start from scratch but here’s a video where I’ve already improved the quality and made it 60 fps, no scratch removal done. This may or may not be the highest-quality version out there you just may need to compare since it was a while ago that I posted this video. I’ll also see If I can do anything with the audio since there’s a massive fan blowing the whole time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOndD5NX-F8&ab_channel=InfectiousSneeze
and here’s my test at isolating the dialogue from the loud fans
\https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtvHLjtHOrE&ab_channel=InfectiousSneeze

Thanks I’ll take a look at version I have and compare. Just curious, what does converting a 23.97 frame video to 60fps do to help? I mean it’s more frame to edit if you have to go frame by frame for dust etc…just curious I see others have mentioned… I will also try a shot at isolation and see what I can come up with, have not tried it yet.

Fruit672 said:

Here’s the most recent test I’ve done on fixing old footage. This one was enhancing, removing scratches. and testing out a ghit hub ai colorized.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1h4lllRabU&ab_channel=InfectiousSneeze
My PC recently broke so I don’t have access to all the softwares but I have been testing out a software for fixing old audio with mixed results.
Im also really surprised at how accurately you got the colors to match from the Hoth hallway scene. Was that just adobe?

Yep Adobe, It is premier for the color match and then the lumetri color correct filter going further. Also using those Vimager plugins mentioned earlier for for contrast and shadow fix where needed so the filter have something to look at. If its match close in tone before color match it is more accurate

Nice scratch reduction there!! Does that require frame by frame or is AI just running does it all?

Ronster said:

Most things that were earmarked for use ended up in color.

extra shot of the two Duros arguing etc

The thing is that that very first puppet in the cantina film version was unfinished it’s most likely a test shot as in the PSA drunk driving comercial and the holiday special you see him with proper skin rather than black fabric they had the eyes done but not the skin simply a fabric wrap. It would be amazing to somehow finish him off like he is meant to look.
Are you talking about the “hand sock” guy…if so I am wondering if there are some images of him for detail to help
or do you mean wolf #2 is really the unfinished guy?

The Cantina Band was done in pick up shoot with the wolfman and various other bits. I was not aware of extra shots of these guys.
Actually this from holiday special. would only use to keep the flow going

Anyway it is a fun scene but scenes are not always in the right order and to restore Han’s dialogue “Nice moves Old man” can be done without having to restore the footage of that scene.

In that scene he also tells Jenny to beat it or similar, so we get to see her again. But yea could do the dialogue with just existing. This black and white you also see Tzizvvt “fly guy” in the background (not in this frame cause han’s head is in the way)…but there are some others in the shot, which is kind of cool

the Jenny kiss is in color but very quick so not sure what to do on this as mixing a colored with another looks weird…may just use the color for reference

Pairing things down helps things flow quicker so The film makers will try to get an amazing result with as little work as possible not saying it was not hard work but you don’t want extra work if you can avoid it. you should think the same way.

Yea this definitely would be a shot out to the creature makers, service to the fans…however interpreted. What I plan to do is finish the scenes cut them together and see what works, what is shortened, what does not flow. With cantina if the cuts has music behind them it is a little more interesting. After seeing this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGpf4U_JKhE
I was motivated to how close one could make a video version that showed everyone in that bar…hopefully it ends working out and flows well from a timing standpoint. 😃

LucasMenz said:

May I ask if you used Crimson Maul’s version of the Hayden deepfake?

I think that is the one or try myself. Early on there was some chatter or blurriness in areas around the eyes by others trying this but Crimson seemed to have fixed in this last version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AExaJ03xOL8
At this point, this is definitely the highest quality out there I have seen on this take a dying Christensen “anakin” vader

LucasMenz said:

May I ask if you used Crimson Maul’s version of the Hayden deepfake?

I think that is the one or try myself. Early on there was some chatter or blurriness in areas around the eyes by others trying this but Crimson seemed to have fixed in this last version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AExaJ03xOL8
At this point, this is definitely the highest quality out there I have seen on this take a dying Christensen “anakin” vader

I might send you a few clips if you don’t mind later on that you might not have…

I appreciate any clips you may have that I do not, especially if they build on the story as well. I was not going to do B/W but software is good now and there are many still color reference shots to give it a try. below is my deleted scenes I plan to add in:

• Luke talks more about all the aliens he is seeing when they first walk in.
• Deleted scene of ben from behind the group to the bar to sit down before Luke and 3PO enter (deleted scene POV from behind luke as he enters
• extra shot of the two Duros arguing etc
• Deleted from special eddition shot of Defal (aka the Wolfman)
• Deleted shot of hooded fox character and robed balding snaggletooth character
• Deleted shot of Smoker (Dannik Jerriko) Pan shot over to others
• Shot of bald girl talking to the lutrillian (fat rodent guy)
• Twins talking to Mosep Binned character (stringy bearded guy who in the early comics they thought was Jabba)
• Extra cantina shots Model nodes
• Deleted hand sock alien talking to wolfman #2 (less face hair )
• Fly guy and Lutriallian again
• The Twins around another snaggletooth
• Praying manntis guy
• Jenny and Han kiss
• Jenny gets up as the gang sits down with solo (solo compliments ben’s handy work)

I think the extra scenes also are not as important…but more fan service…but worth preserving for some. I was shocked was was all there when I started looking. I looked and looked and do not see the informant guy and Obiwan coming near - walks away to the left behind chewbacca.? This must be the normal looking “Garouf Lafoe” who tells the stormtroopers outside they are inside rt? I am interested in this one and any others you may have

DeonStar said:

Hi can I have a link to your Return of the Jedi edit please

In progress…Empire will be released first, followed by ANH then ROJ