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oojason said:

‘Star Wars: Going Home to Stay’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihf2pVjpzJI - from the RetroBlasting youtube channel. (15 mins long)

‘For years you’ve asked Michael to talk about the original Star Wars movie. Now, he finally has something he wants to say.’
 

^ And what he has to say is both beautiful and on-target.

(all the props to Shopping Maul for the heads-up on this video, and also to Fated-Dualist for creating this thread)
 

Another, much more casual, Retroblasting video about the same subject matter;

Star Wars 4K77 “That Wasn’t Filmed in HD!” Michael UNPLUGGED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg6wNw_uRu4 - from the RetroBlasting youtube channel. (25 mins long)

The blurb:
“Michael discusses some misconceptions about home video technology and the state of Star Wars on home video.”

ZkinandBonez said:

Star Wars: The Clone Wars | Official Trailer | Disney+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLW2jkd6E7g

BTW, I just noticed a possible Kanan cameo in the trailer; https://youtu.be/ZLW2jkd6E7g?t=24
The Jedi with the padawan beside her does looks like Depa Billaba which would make the boy Caleb. He probably won’t say or do anything, but it’s a nice little post-Rebels inclusion (though it does the whole double-canonicty thing even more confusing).

Star Wars: The Clone Wars | Official Trailer | Disney+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLW2jkd6E7g

I’m still surprised by how little info there’s been regarding it’s Nordic launch. The first solid info I’ve heard was released just a few hours ago and it simply stated that it will launch “summer of 2020.”

Mark Hamill: A Force to be Reckoned With (2002 A&E “Biography” TV special)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AyHZyf0tcM - from the StarWarsArchivesCom YouTube channel (43 minutes long)

The blurb:
“Actor Mark Hamill becomes a breakout star starring as Luke Skywalker in the Star Wars film series, but he also finds great success as a writer and voice artist as well.”

IMDB

Peter Cushing: A One-Way Ticket to Hollywood (1989)
https://archive.org/details/one-way-to-hollywood-1989-feature-length-interview-with-peter-cushing - uploaded to archive.org by stewarwd85 (49 minutes long, skip to 58:29 for the Star Wars segment.)

The blurb
“Legendary British actor Peter Cushing (1913-1994) talks about his career in TV and film and his early years in Hollywood, while sharing private memories and anecdotes in his usual delightfully humorous way.”

IMDB

Just the Star Wars segment from this documentary:

Peter Cushing on playing Grand Moff Tarkin in carpet slippers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdXLDvx_tHQ - from the Eyes On Cinema YouTube channel (2 mins long).

Backup link from the Grand Moff Tarkin YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpdaVCBcaIk

Star Wars: 40 years ago (35mm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6nBtcFzS-k

Though obviously not one of the most beloved aspects of the OT’s history (especially on this forum), the Special Editions are none-the-less a part of it and the doc. below is a fascinating watch regardless.

Star Wars Trilogy: Special Edition - Behind the Scenes (1997)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzApL8nUyT0&t - from the Trent Pruitt YouTube channel (29 mins long)

I would add an IMDB or Wiki link, or something like that, but I’m honestly not too sure about where this is from. If you do know, please let me know so I can add more info to this post.

Since people really liked the YouTube/Vimeo/etc. finds for Original Trilogy making-ofs, documentaries, promos, etc. & General Star Wars Documentaries (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds) threads and have been sharing lots of interesting videos there, I figured it made sense to start a similar thread dedicated to the Prequel Trilogy, Sequel Trilogy, Anthology films, and the various animated & live action TV series, etc.

POSTING GUIDELINES:

• When adding a link to a video, please add a title and/or description so that we don’t have to click on it to find out what it is. Any additional info would be appreciated as well, like f.ex. an IMDB page link, article links, or just a simple blurb. You can also add a photo; screenshot, poster, or simply add the YouTube thumbnail (like this). Alternatively, just PM me with the video link and I’ll send you the image link.
• Fan-made videos qualify provided they are of reasonably good quality.
• Shorter featurettes and other BTS material also qualifies for this thread. However, if you wish to post a large collection of shorter featurettes then please share it as a playlist or at least keep the links confined to a single post so as to not clutter up the thread.
• No reviews or opinion-pieces.
• No mockumentaries.
• This thread is specifically for post-OT movies and/or series, so please don’t post anything primarily dealing with ANH, ESB or ROTJ even if it also covers elements from the later films or series. Some documentaries do of course cover several eras or aspects of Star Wars, so it’s fine if the OT is mentioned in the video provided the focus is on one or several of post-OT films or series.

For other Beyond the OT content there is also the The Beyond the OT Trailers/Promos Thread and the The Random YouTube, Vimeo etc. video finds thread for Beyond the OT

For a more in-depth list of where to find all Star Wars documentaries, making-ofs, etc. and where to find them there is Rodney-2187’s Guide to Star Wars Documentaries and Special Features thread.

An In-Progress Index…

1 • The Beginning: Making Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace (scroll down)
2 to 4 • Episode I-III Webisodes & Featurettes (YT Playlists)
5 to 7 • Rogue One Celebration Reel, Creature Featurette & Blu-ray Bonus Clips
8 • Making of Holochess for Star Wars: The Force Awakens
9 to 14 • Star Wars: The Clone Wars Movie & Season 1-5 Webisodes & Featurettes (YT Playlists)
15 to 17 • Star Wars: Rebels - Season 2-4 Featurettes (YT Playlists)
18 • ILM Behind the Magic: The Visual Effects of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker
19 • ILM Spotlight Featurettes from Solo: A Star Wars Story
20 • ILM Spotlight Featurettes from Star Wars: The Last Jedi
21 • ILM Spotlight Featurettes from Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
22 • ILM: Behind the Magic of the Star Wars: The Force Awakens
23 • The Virtual Production of The Mandalorian, Season One
24 • The Force of Sound - Star Wars: The Last Jedi
25 • Solo: A Star Wars Story - Behind The Scenes featurettes + trailers & TV spots
26 • Star Wars: The Last Jedi Behind The Scenes Featurette
27 • Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Comic-Con 2015 Reel
28 • Star Wars: Clone Wars - Bridging the Saga (2004)
29 • Star Wars: The Last Jedi Blu-ray Bonus Clips
30 • Within A Minute: The Making Of Episode III - 2005 Documentary
31 • Making the Prequel Trilogy - various featurettes from the 2011 “Saga” Blu-ray set
32 • Behind the Scenes of The Phantom Menace - 2000 UK fan club VHS Exclusive hosted by Steve Sansweet
33 • Inside the Final Duel: Maul Vs. Ahsoka - Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 7 Featurette
34 • Clone Wars Download - Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 7 Featurettes
35 • Making the Ewok Adventures Part 1 - Caravan of Courage
36 • Making the Ewok Adventures Part 2 - Battle for Endor
37 • Inside ILM: Creating the Razor Crest
38 • How ILM Made The Mandalorian’s Razor Crest Motion-Controlled Miniature
39 • Behind the Magic: The Visual Effects of The Mandalorian Season 2
40 • The Mandalorian Season 2: Behind the Scene with John Favreau
41 • The Virtual Production of The Mandalorian, Season 2
42 • Filmmakers Discuss Bringing Virtual Worlds to Life for The Mandalorian Season 2
43 • The Emmy-Winning Special Visual Effects of the Mandalorian: Season 2

^ The Index was added as the thread grew to help navigate through the various Documentaries, Making-Ofs, Promos, etc.
 

NOTE: If one of the videos should be deleted from YouTube/Vimeo/etc. please PM ZkinandBonez so that the link can either be replaced or labelled as defunct. Alternatively PM one of the other mods.

 
I figured the appropriate place to start would be at the “beginning” as far as all things beyond the OT is concerned:

The Beginning: Making Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da8s9m4zEpo&list=PLYn2a0e2FVIKni_wHXR5CJYBnnnYH7mIB&index=141&t - from the official Star Wars YouTube channel (1 hour, 6 mins long).

The blurb:-
“The Beginning is a documentary on the making of Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace, originally produced for the film’s DVD release. It covers the entire production of The Phantom Menace, from preproduction to casting to visual effects, editing, and theatrical release.”

IMDB Page

^ This is honestly one of the most interesting and in-depth making-ofs I’ve ever seen, and regardless of what you may think of TPM as a movie, I’d still highly recommend this documentary.

Fated-Dualist said:

^ Ah man 😃 Sorry, should have checked first.

By the way - I love your documentary threads on here, ZkinandBonez; some really great content in there and easily accessible too 😃

I hope we soon get some docs, features and BTS content for The Mandalorian as well.

Thanks. I just made a similar thread for stuff like The Mandalorian, ST, PT, etc.

Also, I remember seeing a sizzle-reel video for The Mandalorian on one of the many videos taken by the audience at the SWC panel and I’m a bit surprised that it hasn’t been released officially yet.

Fated-Dualist said:

by dvglzv - https://www.instagram.com/dvglzv (has some more Star Wars content on there & Batman too)

Just FYI, Darth Muffy made a thread dedicated to these and similar retro covers by other artists; https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Mandalorian-Comic-Covers-SPOILERS-WITHIN/id/71304

So, I finally got around to reading #108 (the comic shop I go to messed up my pull-list so I didn’t get it until recently), and it was pretty fun, nothing spectacular, but actually a lot better than I had expected. For a comic that essentially tried to pull together key-characters/fan-favourites from 107 issues into one story, it was surprisingly consistent. It’s obviously a direct sequel to The Crimson Forever, which already had Domina Tagge as a part of the plot, but they managed to weave Valance, Jaxxon and Amaiza into the plot quite well. Jaxxon and Amaiza seemed a little bit shoe-horned in, but I though Valance’s story was quite interesting. The Valance issues are some of my favourites from the original comic series so I was a little worried about how they would handle it, and although, yes, they did retcon some of his backstory and abilities, it still resulted in a pretty interesting end to his arc despite in some ways being a repeat of what we’ve already seen. Overall though, I thought Valance was the best part of the comic and they tied it into the Crimson Fever quite well. The various artists did a pretty good job I think, and none of it felt cheap or lazy like a lot of modern Marvel art does, though some segments were far better than others.

Although this issue was mostly just a gimmick done to celebrate Marvel’s 80th anniversary, I think it’s quite nice to get a new Legends canon comic, especially one that’s essentially just one big love-letter to the Marvel comics which generally speaking was mostly ignored during the heydays of the old EU.

I’d say that the whole “turn your brain off” kind of has to be applied to a lot of sci-fi and especially fantasy (and SW is obviously both), otherwise you wouldn’t have much of a story at all. As long as it’s balanced, and the whole narrative itself makes sense, then I think it’s ok to stretch your suspension of disbelief or bend the rules a little. I mean ESB, though generally considered the best SW films, really is the most nonsensical one of them all. The continuity of that film is a complete mess if you try to make sense of it (at face value anyway), and some scenes breaks physics even by SW standards. But, it all makes sense as a dramatic narrative and that’s what makes it a good film and justifies all the weird logic IMO.

When they write “beard” I’d imagine they’re referring to something similar to Captain Tarpals’ mustache-tendril-thingies.

I’m too lazy to read through both wookieepedia entries on gungans just to check this, but I do recall reading somewhere that those things are basically gungan facial “hair.”

Speaking of Star Wars toys in the UK, I just came across this Movietonews video from 1978:

Movietonews (1978)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9WVNMYPpJQ (7 minutes long, skip to 3:25 for SW/Palitoy segment.)

“From the Movietonews archive is 1978 footage from the UK release of Star Wars, proceeded by an item about the 1978 Toy And Hobby Fair.”

So apparently in the SW universe the driver’s seat is on the right.

As a side note, the speeder was built around the chassis of a British Bond Bug.

OutboundFlight said:

In terms of “filler” episodes…

I don’t think I would consider any of the episodes “filler”. Even Chapter 5, despite not setting anything up, provided lots of insight into world as well as just a fun adventure.

I actually find too much focus on an overarching plot a sign of a “filler episode”. Let me explain. Way too many shows focus on building mysteries and teasing the audience, to the point that’s the entire show.

A good example would be Stranger Things 3. I was bored watching most of it, and I kept wondering when the plot would actually start. Because the first 75% is just slowly teasing the ending, when I would rather they either shorten the season or add new storylines to make each episode somewhat unique.

This is why I like Mandalorian so much: each episode brings something new to the table.

Well put, couldn’t agree more. I had a similar experience watching GoT a while back. I gave up during the second season because it felt so “padded”. I’d watched several episodes and one of the too many plots only advanced so far as to have two characters walk from one place to another. The dialogue was fine and added to their characters, but nothing really happened to their story for several episodes. When something finally did happen it was yet another cliff hanger and at that point I’d simply stopped caring. My personal idea of a perfectly done long narrative in TV series form would be something like the last few seasons of Star Trek DS9. There’s an overarching narrative that’s always present (e.g. the Dominion War and several character arcs, etc.), but each episode (apart from two-parters and such) still felt like their own self contained story. The Mandalorian did a similar thing, where the child and the bounty hunters / imperial remnant hunting it was the overarching plot, yet episodes 2 & 4-6 also told their own stories while still being connected to the main plot.

Tobar said:

TCW fits well with the microseries for the most part but it does contradict it in a few places. George was not afraid to completely negate anything in the EU he didn’t care for. Which is why incidents like Karen Traviss’ loud and sudden departure from the franchise happened. And why suddenly there was the weird continuity issue they had to try and smooth over when he decided to rename the Sith planet Korriban to Moraband.

What I’ve personally always been fascinated by is George’s love of the comics. He pulled Ayla Secura right out of the comics and adapted her to live action in AOTC. Her Master from the comics Quinlan Vos also almost made a live action appearance in ROTS but ended up instead as a vocal reference. Asajj Ventress, was another comics character he used quite heavily in the animated series.

He also heavily borrowed from Ki-Adi Mundi’s backstory from the comics for Anakin in ROTS. Married and being the “only” knight to be given a seat on the council without being granted the rank of Master.

And then there’s Darth Talon. Another comic character that George became enamored with. He first tried to use her in the long cancelled Darth Maul game and then later was planning on using her as the antagonist in his version of VII.

And his love of the comics continues. He’s been spotted heading into comic shops every now and then to buy the latest issues and even bought all of the original art for a Marvel Han Solo comic.

Yeah, Lucas’ relationship with the EU is quite interesting. Although a lot of SW fans would prefer for canon to be this rigid and consistent thing, it seems like Lucas always treated it similarly to how Star Trek have always done it where the novels, comics, etc. are just stories to enjoy and use as a “head-canon” or “what-ifs” until a new series or movie contradicts it. And as far as Legends are concerned, that was technically the case with G-canon, though you wouldn’t know if from scrolling through wookieepedia.

As a side note: do you know if there actually was any original art from the Han Solo series for Lucas to buy? Having read it I got the impression it was done digitally, so I’ve always wondered if it actually happened or not. Every article I’ve read always seemed to skip that part and only says he wanted to buy it.

Anakin Starkiller said:

I know, and as I said it played really loose with its connection to EU material so it doesn’t really matter, but if we were to nitpick, then CW season 7 is technically part of both continuities. CW is such an oddity canon-wise. It is, as you say G-canon, so it trumped all other content, yet it was also made to fit within the time-jump in Tartakovsky’s CW cartoon, hence why season 1 starts with Anakin being a Jedi and why it never intended to show the attack on Coruscant. However, despite being the last part of Legends, it was canonized as the first non-movie content in the new EU and has been treated as the starting point for new animated series. The reason I find this funny is that it’s a canon series that was made to fit within a non-canon series, yet they continued several unresolved arcs in a canon sequel series, which means that the Legends version (regardless of whether season 7 counts) will most likely always be unfinished.

The weirdest part is that without Tartokovsky’s CW, Grievous and Ventress just sorta show up outta nowhere.

Exactly. And so far they haven’t bothered to give them a canon introduction either, they just kind of accept that those stories have already been told despite not being part the official canon.

DominicCobb said:

ZkinandBonez said:

DominicCobb said:

ZkinandBonez said:

So it just occurred to me that CW season 7 could technically qualify as both Legends and Canon at the same time. Granted the canonicity of CW pre-Disney was kind of weird and inconsistent, but it is the only non-live-action material to be canonized after Disney bought SW, and season 7 is based on unfinished episodes from the pre-Disney days, so shouldn’t the new season technically be part of both continuities? Not that this really matters overall, but I find these kinds of things fascinating.

I would think with that profile picture you might have known about Marvel #108 “Forever Crimson” https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_108:_Forever_Crimson

Yeah, as a matter of fact I just got my copy of it recently (there was a mix up with my pull-list and I didn’t get it until now). Though I’m not quite sure what you’re getting at.

Maybe I misread your comment. I thought you were wondering if Disney has produced any new Legends content, but I guess you’re talking about producing new Legends content that is also canon.

Ah, I see. No, I’m well aware that other than Crimson Forever, which was more a gimmick than anything else, that Disney SW aren’t making any new Legends content. I was just saying that CW season 7, being based on previously unfinished episodes, are unintentionally Legends stories as well.

Tobar said:

ZkinandBonez said:

So it just occurred to me that CW season 7 could technically qualify as both Legends and Canon at the same time. Granted the canonicity of CW pre-Disney was kind of weird and inconsistent, but it is the only non-live-action material to be canonized after Disney bought SW, and season 7 is based on unfinished episodes from the pre-Disney days, so shouldn’t the new season technically be part of both continuities? Not that this really matters overall, but I find these kinds of things fascinating.

The series was created by George Lucas himself. It’s always been considered G-Level canon, even after he left following the third season.

I know, and as I said it played really loose with its connection to EU material so it doesn’t really matter, but if we were to nitpick, then CW season 7 is technically part of both continuities. CW is such an oddity canon-wise. It is, as you say G-canon, so it trumped all other content, yet it was also made to fit within the time-jump in Tartakovsky’s CW cartoon, hence why season 1 starts with Anakin being a Jedi and why it never intended to show the attack on Coruscant. However, despite being the last part of Legends, it was canonized as the first non-movie content in the new EU and has been treated as the starting point for new animated series. The reason I find this funny is that it’s a canon series that was made to fit within a non-canon series, yet they continued several unresolved arcs in a canon sequel series, which means that the Legends version (regardless of whether season 7 counts) will most likely always be unfinished.

In the end I just like these shows for what they are regardless of what continuity they “officially” belong to, but since canonicity is a thing I find these oddities fascinating.

DominicCobb said:

ZkinandBonez said:

So it just occurred to me that CW season 7 could technically qualify as both Legends and Canon at the same time. Granted the canonicity of CW pre-Disney was kind of weird and inconsistent, but it is the only non-live-action material to be canonized after Disney bought SW, and season 7 is based on unfinished episodes from the pre-Disney days, so shouldn’t the new season technically be part of both continuities? Not that this really matters overall, but I find these kinds of things fascinating.

I would think with that profile picture you might have known about Marvel #108 “Forever Crimson” https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_108:_Forever_Crimson

Yeah, as a matter of fact I just got my copy of it recently (there was a mix up with my pull-list and I didn’t get it until now). Though I’m not quite sure what you’re getting at.

timdiggerm said:

ZkinandBonez said:

timdiggerm said:

It is fascinating that, with the exception of 7, you named the episodes that barely, if at all, moved the plot along. My favorites were 1, 3, 7 & 8, so I am…well, like I said, fascinated.

It’s not that weird, is it? Not everyone likes/prefers series to tell one large story, but rather wants mini-adventures with a connecting through-line. This is one of the reasons I enjoyed this show so much as I don’t like the modern Netflix/HBO style of stretching one story into hundreds of hours. I get why some people like it, but to me it just feels like padding. SW shows like the Mandalorian, CW, Rebels, etc. manage to keep my attention much easier because most episodes are (more-or-less) standalone stories, that occasionally continues or adds to a larger narrative. In this sense The Mandalorian was nearly perfectly structured for my preferences (I actually would have liked a few more episodes like 4-6).

Similarly, my favourite episodes were 2 & 6.

That really helped me understand. Clearly, I want the opposite (though honestly, I did really like 2 & 6, it’s just that the overall plot grabs me more). So, the fact that the show manages to hit some notes for both of us is pretty great; they’re striking a good balance.

Yeah, Favreau and Filoni both seem to have a really good grasp on the nuances in what both SW fans and regular viewers want out of a show and have struck a really good balance, which is no small feat in general, let alone with SW.

timdiggerm said:

It is fascinating that, with the exception of 7, you named the episodes that barely, if at all, moved the plot along. My favorites were 1, 3, 7 & 8, so I am…well, like I said, fascinated.

It’s not that weird, is it? Not everyone likes/prefers series to tell one large story, but rather wants mini-adventures with a connecting through-line. This is one of the reasons I enjoyed this show so much as I don’t like the modern Netflix/HBO style of stretching one story into hundreds of hours. I get why some people like it, but to me it just feels like padding. SW shows like the Mandalorian, CW, Rebels, etc. manage to keep my attention much easier because most episodes are (more-or-less) standalone stories, that occasionally continues or adds to a larger narrative. In this sense The Mandalorian was nearly perfectly structured for my preferences (I actually would have liked a few more episodes like 4-6).

Similarly, my favourite episodes were 2 & 6.

So it just occurred to me that CW season 7 could technically qualify as both Legends and Canon at the same time. Granted the canonicity of CW pre-Disney was kind of weird and inconsistent, but it is the only non-live-action material to be canonized after Disney bought SW, and season 7 is based on unfinished episodes from the pre-Disney days, so shouldn’t the new season technically be part of both continuities? Not that this really matters overall, but I find these kinds of things fascinating.