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#1330403
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<em>The Mandalorian</em> Discussion Thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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NFBisms said:

Her sendoff in the finale of TCW season 5 was already a good ending, but she came back in Rebels. Her defeat by Vader on Malachor made up for it by being an even more emotional ending for her. But then she even survives that, to even after ROTJ! Then Filoni doubles down to before all this and says that Ashoka actually talked to Anakin after she left the Jedi Order, they apparently made up, and she led the Siege of Mandalore against Maul.

While I agree she should have died on Malachor, her first exit at the end of season 5 was never supposed to be her end. They were cancelled after the Disney buyout and luckily for them season 5 ended where it did. The reunion with Anakin and the final battle on Mandalore were all part of the original plan, we’re extremely lucky Dave finally got to finish it.

StarkillerAG said:

I’d also like something like that to happen, but I’m cautiously optimistic if it can be pulled off convincingly. Disney won’t keep pouring unlimited money into this show, so the effects will get more “TV” as the show goes on. De-aging effects look great in high-budget movies, but I’m not so sure if it can work here.

They were able to deage Anthony Hopkins marvelously for Westworld on a TV budget.

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#1325390
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All Things Star Trek
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ray_afraid said:

I’ve heard that many people cant get into TOS because it’s “Too corny.”
Hot take incoming…
It’s TGN, for me, that is so corny I can’t take it. It’s full of cheesy corn & soap opera antics. Over the last few years I’ve really come to love TOS. I used to think I hated Trek en mass, but once I finally gave it a real shot, TOS won me over very quickly.
I’ve occasionally dipped into TNG, thinking I must have missed something when it was actually on air. I love Patrick Stewart, Brent Spiner & LeVar Burton. But, TNG is just not for me.
I haven’t tried the other shows.

Personally my two favorite shows are TOS and DS9. DS9 is a real breath of fresh air compared to TNG. TNG is very formal, everyone is rather stiff because they have to show proper respect to rank. On DS9 it’s much more casual and to me, a lot more fun.

Though that isn’t to say I don’t like TNG. I actually think you might like it if you give it a proper chance, just know the first two seasons are really bad. It’s not until the third season where TNG finally starts to find its footing.

Same for DS9, though that really only took a single season. Pretty much every Trek takes time to find itself. The only exception being TOS which was great after the pilot.

But yeah if you like TOS I’d recommend giving DS9 a shot, just know the first season is a bit rough.

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#1324638
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Star Wars Episode IX (was) to be directed by Colin Trevorrow - DUEL OF THE FATES RIP
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DominicCobb said:

I feel like we should be past the “Lucas’s treatments got dumped” discussion at this point. We know many of his ideas were the starting point for things in TFA (and TLJ to a lesser extent). The fact that they didn’t follow his treatments to the letter shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone.

It was certainly a surprise to George Lucas. Here’s Robert Iger himself recounting their first story meeting with George:

Robert Iger said:

Early on, Kathy brought J.J. and Michael Arndt up to Northern California to meet with George at his ranch and talk about their ideas for the film. George immediately got upset as they began to describe the plot and it dawned on him that we weren’t using one of the stories he submitted during the negotiations.

The truth was, Kathy, J.J., Alan, and I had discussed the direction in which the saga should go, and we all agreed that it wasn’t what George had outlined. George knew we weren’t contractually bound to anything, but he thought that our buying the story treatments was a tacit promise that we’d follow them, and he was disappointed that his story was being discarded. I’d been so careful since our first conversation not to mislead him in any way, and I didn’t think I had now, but I could have handled it better. I should have prepared him for the meeting with J.J. and Michael and told him about our conversations, that we felt it was better to go in another direction. I could have talked through this with him and possibly avoided angering him by not surprising him. Now, in the first meeting with him about the future of Star Wars, George felt betrayed, and while this whole process would never have been easy for him, we’d gotten off to an unnecessarily rocky start.

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#1320260
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (SPOILERS)
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Hal 9000 said:

I think the ST titles are pretty good and fit their respective stories. Even other films reference these.

“Leading then to the last Jedi…”
“Something inside me has always been there, and now it’s awake.” Etc.

The Thrawn titles fit fine, too, but I really don’t feel the need to change titles.

There has been an awakening

…leading them to the last Jedi. If Skywalker returns, the new Jedi
will rise.

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#1318869
Topic
All Things Star Trek
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Noah Hawley’s ‘Star Trek’ Movie Will be a Return to Traditional ‘Trek’

Noah Hawley said:

Star Trek is such a special story about exploration and empathy and diversity and humanity at its best and creative problem solving. It was never designed in its origins as an action series. It was always about humanity having to fit into the universe and solve problems through diplomacy and outsmarting their opponents. So I’m excited to get back to that.

I hope Paramount trusts his vision.

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#1318691
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<em>Star Wars: The Clone Wars</em> To Return With New Episodes
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Yeah looks like the artist still does his penciling the traditional way. Here’s some of the original art:

And here’s what the artist had to say about it:

Mark Brooks said:

Got an e-mail last night from Lucasfilm saying that George Lucas would like to purchase every original page from Han Solo #1 and #2. Surreal is an understatement.

George gets first right of refusal on all Star Wars artwork. The artwork goes through Lucasfilm who then send it on your George for optioning. Guess it was in his contract when he sold the property.

It’s standard for any Star Wars artwork done in any official capacity for Lucasfilm, Disney and it’s subsidiaries. George Lucas gets first rights of refusal for all original artwork.

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#1318659
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<em>Star Wars: The Clone Wars</em> To Return With New Episodes
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TCW fits well with the microseries for the most part but it does contradict it in a few places. George was not afraid to completely negate anything in the EU he didn’t care for. Which is why incidents like Karen Traviss’ loud and sudden departure from the franchise happened. And why suddenly there was the weird continuity issue they had to try and smooth over when he decided to rename the Sith planet Korriban to Moraband.

What I’ve personally always been fascinated by is George’s love of the comics. He pulled Ayla Secura right out of the comics and adapted her to live action in AOTC. Her Master from the comics Quinlan Vos also almost made a live action appearance in ROTS but ended up instead as a vocal reference. Asajj Ventress, was another comics character he used quite heavily in the animated series.

He also heavily borrowed from Ki-Adi Mundi’s backstory from the comics for Anakin in ROTS. Married and being the “only” knight to be given a seat on the council without being granted the rank of Master.

And then there’s Darth Talon. Another comic character that George became enamored with. He first tried to use her in the long cancelled Darth Maul game and then later was planning on using her as the antagonist in his version of VII.

And his love of the comics continues. He’s been spotted heading into comic shops every now and then to buy the latest issues and even bought all of the original art for a Marvel Han Solo comic.

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#1318646
Topic
<em>Star Wars: The Clone Wars</em> To Return With New Episodes
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ZkinandBonez said:

So it just occurred to me that CW season 7 could technically qualify as both Legends and Canon at the same time. Granted the canonicity of CW pre-Disney was kind of weird and inconsistent, but it is the only non-live-action material to be canonized after Disney bought SW, and season 7 is based on unfinished episodes from the pre-Disney days, so shouldn’t the new season technically be part of both continuities? Not that this really matters overall, but I find these kinds of things fascinating.

The series was created by George Lucas himself. It’s always been considered G-Level canon, even after he left following the third season.

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#1317722
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Rumor: COUNTDOWN to The Rise of Skywalker EXTENDED CUT - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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I’d like it to be true just because I really want to see everything. The film in theaters right now has clearly been cut down significantly. The article was linked by someone with connections to LFL but they don’t know anything about the veracity of the claims and I personally have never heard of the site before today.