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TestingOutTheTest said:

DZ-330 said:

TestingOutTheTest said:

As someone who does like TRoS, I just feel like some changes miss the original executed meaning of specific things/plot points/whatever and/or undermine those.

That’s the point of a fanedit though… to change the meaning of specific things and plot points to the editor’s executed meaning.

But as I stated, the scene with the children establishes a connection with the galaxy in just TRoS (as if it were a standalone movie and not a sequel) and raises the stakes. It’s more personal and thus meaningful than just reinforcing TLJ. The heroes are fighting for the future of the galaxy, which the children symbolize.

I don’t even totally disagree. But I think it’s worthwhile to accentuate Rey’s identity and how the legend of Luke comes into play.

It’s a funny image, Krennic appreciating a puppet show.

Also, in fairness to Testing, there are certainly edits out there that seem not to grasp what they’re altering and function in a reactionary way. I don’t blame him for keeping alert about that, but sometimes it gets old.

My face made a super candid, dumb little kid expression of genuine excitement.

That is sublime. It couldn’t look any better!

I wonder if the “Skywalker” name could be timed to imply it’s what initially catches Rey’s attention.

I don’t understand what I’m hearing.

Haphazard answers:

I’ll use jonh’s updated ghost scene once he provides it. (Just the version with the four ghosts.)

I do like the ‘Captain Hux’ idea, so I’ll use it if the audio side of things pans out. Not a big deal either way, though.

And Faraday, those are excellent lines for him!

PM sent.

“There are many of us.”

Too bad his character was axed from my edit of Episode 3! But this is a pretty cool inclusion, so I am glad he offered!

RogueLeader said:

I actually finally finished the puppets today! But keep in mind, I didn’t make them extremely detailed because they’ll only be on screen for like, 2 seconds. I basically just took Faraday’s puppet designs and turned them into actual puppets.

But I’m gonna try and film them tonight! So maybe I really won’t sleep. 😂

I don’t have time to give the kind of post this discussion deserves right now but it’s too bad “you are nothing” can’t be his final line.

I alter alt #1 is the best so far.

Man, you guys continue to tear this up. I feel like the bumbling parent wandering in and out of the room while amazing things are happening and meekly starting to say “let’s not get out of hand” before even that sentiment gives way to awe.

Jeez, that’s a wonderful makeup job.

Train an AI voice based on Hayden Christensen and use it to redub all of Anakin’s lines.

Nah, I don’t think that’d track.

If I had to, for hypothetical reasons, lock a cut this very day because there’s gonna be a theatrical exhibition or something, I’d probably go for leaving the rest of the dialogue alone save for the “I’m a Jedi” line. The music and sync would be untouched and we’d avoid anything seeming off. From the perspective of fan editing existing material to be suitable for a theater showing, it’d be the safer option. I think retaining “And I…” would alleviate the feeling that something’s off. Maybe it’s from watching the scene a million times due to jonh’s work, but keeping that as well as Rey’s grunt as she contends with the lightning helps it feel complete.

As others have said, this is a moment more important than just about any others that cannot feel off. And I’d rather stick to form by leaving something on the table if it leaves me with any doubt. I’m confident that at least “I am a Jedi” can work, and that right there is something to appreciate.

I suppose worst case, if it turns out to be the make-or-break-seamlessness factor, we could always just let “I am all the Sith” be Palpatine’s final line.
Just saying. It’s a decent fallback if need be.

I’m grateful for you and others giving this movie that sort of dedicated thought that I just don’t have any space for anymore.

I don’t have anything specific to add, just that.

As Luke gears up to use his targeting computer to target the Death Star’s thermal exhaust port, replace the Force theme with ‘Jyn Erso & Hope’ suite.

I wouldn’t want to remove the “all the Sith” line without reason, although I wouldn’t say I’m crazy about any of this dialogue. lol

If you say the words out loud, “I am all the Jedi” and “I am a Jedi” you’ll notice the second has a more pronounced gap between the last two words. I know it’s probably super tricky, but I need to push you on it, y’know?

I’ll download them and use Plex. It was too bad, i was looking forward to settling down and watching one last night!

I passed this project along to someone I encountered through work who mentioned thinking about rewatching TCW but said, “But there’s no way I can do allll that again.”

Hahaha, boy oh man.

Truly, I don’t have a problem with Kylo wanting to goad Rey into helping him kill her. To me, I can infer the dyad thing Kylo drops accounts for things well enough. (It’s stupid, but at least the nuts and bolts of the “logic” check out.)

The more I think about it, I think just removing “[and] me [on the throne of the Sith, Finn]” and “We’ll kill him together [and take the throne]” would work just fine. Kylo stokes Rey into wanting to kill Palpatine by dropping some knowledge about her parents, and then tries to cash in.

Also, suggestions for something to finish Kylo’s line with, using masked dialogue?

“We’ll kill him together _________.”

“We’ll kill him together [and nothing will stand in our way]” I think is what RogueLeader was pursuing.

I mean, it could be okay to just let Kylo talk about killing him. He killed Snoke and seemed like it would have killed Palpatine at the opening of TROS. So it’s in character for his motivations. But making it tempting for Rey is the thing. But he did just reveal that Palpatine killed her parents, and she says in the next scene that she would really like to kill him. Maybe it tracks well enough.

Wow, Sherlock, that really works pretty damn well! I read about it and the discussion before being able to actually plug in earphones and listen to it.

But you know how this stuff always goes: it needs some improvement yet. I think Rey’s “[and] I” sounded just a little abrupt. Is there another instance of her starting a sentence with “I” in a similar voice that could be blended into it?
Her “I am a Jedi” seemed just a little quick. Could it be stretched out a little bit more?

And once we get it sounding flawless, I’d appreciate getting the individual single-channel stems for the dialogue changes. I don’t think I could resist trying to fold them in and sculpt the audio myself too on the off chance I could improve it or at least make it truly ‘native’ to the rest of the timeline.

This is an exciting change, but one that I would really only use if it was totally flawless. Which it is surprisingly close to being!

I think it’s all of them. I’ll let you know if it persists because it must be something on my end. I know one of them is the first Geonosis episode.

I was going to watch an episode but the three I tried each had Google Drive claim they were an unsupported file type. I don’t see anything here about it so I assume it’s something funky on my end.

Right, yeah.

I’ll plan to remove that snippet of Kylo’s line. I don’t want to remove the entire line, though, because otherwise I’m not sure what game Kylo’d be playing otherwise.

I thought we’d surmised Kylo felt that together they’d be able to kill him. After all, when they do team up they do seem poised to try it anyway.