I’m sure I won’t be alone in that! Looks great so far, and that’s super kind of you to tackle.
And of course it needs to be about as sharp or blurry as the rest of the image so as not to stick out.
Fan edits are things other people find if they want to find them. Again, I get why someone would be sensitive to things that come across as fan complaints.
I was searching Reddit for posts of mine in order to relist download links and came across something nearly a year old in which someone tore through this project’s changelist to demonstrate how the author is reactive, doesn’t understand the film’s meaning, and essentially making the edit to complain. (I get why fan edits of SW put a poor taste into the mouths of some, I really do. And I could imagine such a change log reading that way if that’s what one assumes going in. On the other hand, if the original film had shown the Force ghosts and we worked hard to paint them out, I’m sure the conversation would be the same but merely inverted.)
Anyway, he raised one point that I think is useful to consider here. He said Poe doesn’t seem to respect or care about the Final Order fleet until Kijimi is destroyed. And that the civilian fleet has no reason to rally without this event.
Poe does seem to care, a great deal, so I’m not sure where that idea comes from. And the fleet arrives because… there’s more of them than the FO censorship has allowed to be apparent, and the legend of Skywalker has had time to have an effect compared to how the end of TLJ played out for the Resistance.
Eh, nevermind. Once again typing in this thread on my phone has functionally replaced walking or driving while thinking about these things. Ideally, any of these fan edits could be evaluated fresh, without assumption. But at the end of the day, the only target audience can be an alternate universe on opening night and not existing people who do or don’t want things to be different. A film that exists on its own, even if only hypothetically, rather than some sort of polemic.
I’d say the line is juuust on this side of working convincingly. I appreciate the effort toward it, and I folded it in as well as I could. The original line is present in just about every channel and there wasn’t a lot of coverage to stitch into it, hence the dropout.
I’ll try it and see how the moment goes.
Really just the things indexed in the OP. I’m more of a mindset to achieve and lock in those things more than brainstorming new ones.
I’m really very pleased with how this whole thing turned out, y’know.
Wow, I never really noticed how bad that is. Great job!
Well, those shots have all already been done. And that’s okay, since you are far from the first person to submit that idea and I’ve declined to go with it.
Also, here’s the full conference scene, including “Captain Hux,” for everyone’s consideration.
Seems unlikely due to the crackly saber which has a handful of sequences remaining.
I could put out a workprint that would be viewable, omitting changes that aren’t complete.
If Sherlock is able to export it as music only (and get far enough info the credits to let me find a good edit point to segue back into the main source), I shouldn’t have an issue baking it in.
Or… what’d be ideal is to export the outgoing Rey’s theme and incoming end credits music separately, each synced to a reference video file for sync. I can then recreate the finessing of the original easily enough. (Like making the music fit the 5.1 soundtrack and blend with sound FX, but use your transition to credits.)
Original ending for comparison: https://streamable.com/15r2vd
Potential new version: https://streamable.com/asygmi
I mainly tried to smooth over the pickup note between Rey’s Theme and the End Credit fanfare. Oh, and shoutout to bbghost for helping me find the correct music clips!
BOOOOO. Booooo. 😂 (it’s been a while was that in the original soundtrack?)
I do think this transition is a bit cleaner. Has a nice punch on that first note of the credits. Good work!
Edit: after listening a few times I think what I like about the new version isn’t so much the punch of the first note of the credits but the last swell of violins from Rey’s theme. It feels a little longer and rises to a bigger crescendo, which I think is appropriate for the last note of the Star Wars saga.
The music is different. Originally they straight up used TFA’s music leading into credits, same recording even.
If people prefer Sherlock’s tweak, perhaps if he sends it along I can implement it.
^ I’m open, Sherlock.
I honesty think the transition to end credits sounds and feels right, moreso than letting the cue play out longer. Only other thing I could think of is mixing in the transition to credits from another film to get a little tiny bit more of a build up “bum buuuuuuuh” before it kicks in. I think it’d take ingenuity from someone else to do, though. But as is, I really don’t have a problem with it and I think it certainly could have been what was put out and I doubt anyone would’ve commented. At least not by that point in this movie.
And yeah, Finn and the lightspeed skipping. It’s… I think it’s the best solution, and a cleaner removal of the offending sequence.
I recall Darth Editous handled that shot nicely, like a million years ago. I don’t have a soft copy of his edit to rip a clip from, though!
From what I can surmise, I think he morphed frames to cover the jerk in motion from the jump cut and animated the saber igniting.
PM sent (to you)
I wonder what a deepfake would look like for that.
Will do. It’s a tough call!
Right before the Death Star blows up, show stormtroopers and other enlisted men looking at family photos with tears in their eyes.
Oooooh, gotcha. Well, if you want to wait I can try to decide whether to go with yours or Dat’s.
Very kind of you. How you mean “to match the 97SE,” though?
I really like both your and Dat’s current Alderaan explosions. Straight from using the 97SE to an embarrassment of riches.
I don’t loathe the Praxis ring, but what I don’t like is that every major explosion of a planetoid object in the OTSE has it. To me, one is fine but multiple gets weird. And personally, I feel the original Death Star explosion is the one to keep, since I’d feel a little weird going from the SE Battle of Yavin to the original explosion, though its probably just from conditioning.
It’s a little bit awesome to have two people at once working on impressive replacements for the Alderaan explosion (that don’t have Praxis rings). Just one bit of feedback comparing yours, Dat’s, the OOT, and the SE: I think your explosion goes too far from the planet too fast. The other three, the explosion hangs more tightly to the planet body. Yours looks fine the way it is, I am just zooming way in to pick nits and vet.
What bbghost said. No one can ask more of you than that. If you can export what you’ve got so far that would be greatly appreciated.