Harmy said:
On a happier note:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FscknS_rCY
I just couldn't sleep soundly knowing I didn't give that shot all the effort I could :-)
<3
Harmy said:
Here it is:
Neat-o. I'd vote for the pandown delayed.
Nice; it's awesome to see that mistake shot restored. :)
I only mention those pinkish blast shots because they follow a scene with a pinkish saber, with a possible connection.
And I look forward to seeing a new take on the initial pan down to Tatooine.
Vader's saber seems pink. I know that's vague and cliché, but I'm throwing that out there as a general impression.
Could the reds have been toned down too much in that scene? The laser flashes and smoke seems pinkish in the shootout immediately following the duel, whereas the GOUT in the corner is more of a red.
Also, you can see more of that 'blue spill' I was talking about in the short shot where Luke yells, "NO!" toward Vader and Ben. It's present all over the '04 transfer, so it's probably non-reparable.
hairy_hen said:
Personally I don't give much of a damn about these movies in any way because the things they changed from the books completely screwed up the story in a lot of cases, especially from a character and 'world-building' continuity standpoint. For the sake of those who do like them, I'm glad the DVNR nonsense is being dispensed with, but I can't be arsed about caring for anything else that's going on. ;)
Have you given either our Sharkey's Purist Edition or Kerr's edits a try?
I thought the whole Battle of Yavin looked pretty damn good! Most of the GOUT shots blend quite well, go by fast, and themselves didn't look good in the original version and so really don't stick out at all.
That's too bad about the pan down from the crawl. I'd vote for having the pan begin sooner in order to have the planet reveal on musical cue. That way at least one cue is on time rather than none. Not a big deal or anything, since it's been that way since 1981.
As far as the shortened shot with the Y-Wing, I think it plays perfect the way it is in the workprint, and I prefer it to the way it was in the Partly Despecialized version.
Those damn sabers are the only thing that sticks out in my mind as a bummer, and that's the truth.
Overall, beautiful work. I'll keep pouring over the workprint and let you know of anything else I could add.
It may just be the power of suggestion, but it seems like different picture settings were applied to the duel than the rest of the film. It seems strange, but I can't put my finger on it.
One specific example of what appears to be an effect of this is "blue drift." It comes off the walls, this blue glow. You can see it on the left of the frame in the shot at 1:21:01.
Because the sabers aren't "despecialized" anyway, and these settings mostly serve to make the scene seem strange, perhaps you would want to try a half-way point for the duel.
(Too bad there isn't an HD source for the '97 SE.)
It looks like the reveal of Tatooine in the first shot is a little early.
The GOUT clip in the upper left is revealed right on cue, and the music reflects this. https://picasaweb.google.com/doubleofive/StarWarsSpecialEditionChangesHD#5537299928729670658
However, there are a few places in this shot where no movement is present that can be used for pausing and retiming: after the crawl has faded away, and the point between the pan down being over and the Taintive IV flying overhead.
But, again, just look at the GOUT clip because it appears to be at the proper cue.
I must have missed that trailer the first time; nice role reversal.
Actual LOL.
As in "foam at the mouth."
"foam at the mouth
I'd refrain from foaming and see what imperfections my eyes can if you'd send a workprint my way.
But, no guarantees about the foaming.
Can I make a thread about you?
G'bless 'um, the two Bobs who made Back to the Future.
Just to chime in, I would (have been able to had the SE never happened) enjoy a Blade Runner-esque cleanup and directorial "cut" alongside the original version.
Tastefully revisiting the film is okay with me, provided that the original version is presented on equal footing. Has any other director worked so hard to bury the original version of a film?
I say look to Spielberg for an example with E.T. He made a crappy SE, but at least released it alongside the original version too.
;)
I'd say TPM is my favorite of the three prequel films too. At least it feels like a film, whereas the other two feel like surreal video game cutscenes.
greenpenguino said:
It's an action movie made in the 90s; It sucks.
Fixed.
At this rate, this is going to end up virtually indistinguishable from a properly restored OOT!
Partly Despecialized indeed!
I understand it's not for everyone, as my post indicated.
What I meant to say was that, nevertheless, I am impressed by the seemingly "crazy" idea. Furthermore, I'd be interested to know more about the process you put the '06 DVDs through to arrive at a release suitable for a BR-D.
It sounds crazy to use a source of a non-anamorphic DVD sourced from a piece of shit master from the early nineties and end up with a 25GB file.
Even though I have no hardware capable of playing such media back, I'd be sorely interested in a short video explanation of your process. Perhaps dissect a shot or two and show us what all went in to it.
For the time being, until my home technology advances, your V3 DVDs are my archival "Star Wars Trilogy." And they ain't half bad.
"Obi-Wan Kenobi." lol
Pretty fucking cool, if you ask me.
Now I just need to learn how to edit in HD so I can recreate our purist fan edit.
NICE!
I think it's because there's inconsistent "bleeding" of the composite.
In the GOUT, the whole image is brightened as the explosion moves outward. In Harmy's, only the somewhat arbitrary parts of the frame from the GOUT are illuminated.
Man, that's pretty neat.
The Death Star explosion seems strange, with such a clean backdrop contrasted with a composite of a bad explosion.
I agree with the above poster about the Falcon sitting in the Death Star.
That shot of the X-wings taking off was spectacular; another instance of a shot that looks "wrong" only because I've never seen it look that good!