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- The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hey I could try folding that in; I know the mix was already sorta crowded, though. But I like it.
Hey I could try folding that in; I know the mix was already sorta crowded, though. But I like it.
FWIW, I don’t regard that cameo as being the youngling character himself, but an unspecified Jedi from sometime within the last 1000 generations we hadn’t already met in the movies.
And in an edit that still has Hayden Christensen as Anakin’s ghost, I don’t think it makes sense to replace Ewan McGregor’s actual voice with an AI of Alec Guiness. Whether there’s a worthwhile line to toss in is another question, but it might be more of a cool idea that could be done rather than satisfying a need.
It really doesn’t sound far off from McGregor even, somehow.
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I would have deeply disliked that idea being realized. He was redeemed and then died, and so forever after he’s on that trajectory.
It’s harder to find a provider than it should be, that’s true. And I’ve heard big companies like betterhelp are less than ethical in how they do things.
Sounds 100% like Carrie Fischer reading the line. Not necessarily dramatic acting, but I’ll be pleased to mock it up and see how we feel about it. Thank you.
Might be weird to to go right to the next line, “It cannot be. The Emperor is dead.”
What about…
“We’ve decoded the intel from the First Order spy, and it confirms the worst: Emperor Palpatine has returned.”
It may not shoehorn in any new exposition, but it gets Leia active. However, it may only further betray the fact Carrie was already gone to not show her delivering any portion of the line.
+1 against camera shake. It works for ships and fighters to shake on impact, but it doesn’t feel right for the camera to, let alone for this shot. IMHO
Where are you trying to make it look like they are?
Well, Poe is the one that describes the fleet. It may not feel natural to have Leia shoehorn in exposition about it only for Poe to then give it a general introduction.
I wonder if we could have Leia begin the little briefing at the start of the movie. We could get rid of the Emperor’s Fortnight speech we added, and come into the scene with something like this:
Leia: Emperor Palpatine has returned from the dead, and laid claim to his former Empire. The First Order was a diversion.
Cut to that one shot of Leia looking worried.
Poe: “His followers have been building…” and the scene plays out.
Not at all sure of it, but tossing out the idea.
Burbin, that’s gorgeous. Whenever you finish it, send it and I guess I’ll have to officially declare open season for V3.
And I still have not mentally grappled with the possibilities introduced by the AI voices JJB has brought to the table. I feel we’d do well to avoid getting into what we could do, and instead use it to meet needs and fill gaps. (Which has been the case so far; I’m talking to myself.)
Maybe we could clean this up a little with Mark Hamill’s voice.
Luke Skywalker:
“It was the last night of her training. Leia sensed that she could do more good following another path. She surrendered her saber to me and said that one day, it would be picked up again by a Jedi who would finish her journey. A thousand generations live in you now. We’ll always be with you, but this is your fight.”
Absolutely this. Y’know, if it works seamlessly.
As far as “Thank you, Rose,” where do you imagine placing this line?
Not that I can think of for TLJ. Maaaaybe he could say “lesson three” or something like it for TROS. Even then I’m not sold on the change, so it may not be worth training a whole AI just to try it out.
Could we try “He’s too dangerous, Rey” for the short scene? I feel like addressing Rey by name helped the delivery and make it feel less like dialogue lifted from TFA where she barely talked to Rey at all.
I like “He’s” but feel the one that ended with “, Rey” cohered better into the scene.
You’re on a roll, keep it up. I love the read on that. I need to sit down and look over things to see if I see anything else to try to do, things to help existing goals.
Leia saying “come home” would be welcome too.
I’m adoring these.
I introduced my niece to SW (back before the ST) in order of 4,5,1,2,3,6 and agree it worked very well. Not sure if it’d work quite as well tacking 7,8,9 onto it afterward, breaking up the OT like that. And going right from Death Star II to Death Star III. In this order you get the Death Star first and five movies go by before Death Star II.
Now that’d be a great line. I love it.
I’m not sure how best to pursue the opportunity of adding something before her line, “always, in the shadows from the very beginning.” I’m thinking something that makes the line feel like it’s something about this news about Palpatine rather than clearly an old line about Snoke. But, it sounds solidly like the beginning of a sentence rather than the end.
Not just a callback to ESB but Leia delivering a line of dialogue relevant to this movie rather than something originally from TFA. The closest she comes otherwise is “in the shadows from the very beginning.”
Actually, I wonder if she could say something more specific about Palpatine before we cut to her to finish her sentence.
The fact that I’m casually throwing out an idea to have an AI voice begin a sentence and then seamlessly transition to an existing line of dialogue is crazy.
Maybe Jar Jar could have dialogue replaced in AOTC to help him seem like he’s grown or changed in the decade since TPM. I believe that was the original idea.
“Obi! I’m so please to see you again!”
“Senator Amidala, I’m pleased to present these two Jedi arriving.”
“I’m busting with happiness seeing you again, Anakin.”
“She’s happy. Happier than I’ve seen her in a long time.”
“I am honored to be taking on this heavy burden. I accept this with all humility and…”
“…Senate. Fellow delegates. In response to this direct threat to the Republic, I propose that the Senate give immediate emergency powers to the Supreme Chancellor.”
Later in the hallway “Don’t touch my robes, I’ll fucking kill you!”
Oooh, I like that second line in and of itself but it feels like the wrong editing decision not to show her face for it. (Granted, TROS itself could have easily looked that exact same way based on the obvious constraints they had, if they had access to this same tool.)
I don’t think this one blends in all that well, at least not compared to what we already have. I like how the existing version has Kylo emphasize “Captain” as a slight. It would have been a holy pain in the ass to mix it in properly, so this is admittedly rough:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/132D9H_Ive1NXbSolsds8CSABQojAzrmU/view?usp=share_link
“Girls are helpless and could not possibly have escaped my forces.”