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- #1523441
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- The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I’m adoring these.
I’m adoring these.
I introduced my niece to SW (back before the ST) in order of 4,5,1,2,3,6 and agree it worked very well. Not sure if it’d work quite as well tacking 7,8,9 onto it afterward, breaking up the OT like that. And going right from Death Star II to Death Star III. In this order you get the Death Star first and five movies go by before Death Star II.
Now that’d be a great line. I love it.
I’m not sure how best to pursue the opportunity of adding something before her line, “always, in the shadows from the very beginning.” I’m thinking something that makes the line feel like it’s something about this news about Palpatine rather than clearly an old line about Snoke. But, it sounds solidly like the beginning of a sentence rather than the end.
Not just a callback to ESB but Leia delivering a line of dialogue relevant to this movie rather than something originally from TFA. The closest she comes otherwise is “in the shadows from the very beginning.”
Actually, I wonder if she could say something more specific about Palpatine before we cut to her to finish her sentence.
The fact that I’m casually throwing out an idea to have an AI voice begin a sentence and then seamlessly transition to an existing line of dialogue is crazy.
Maybe Jar Jar could have dialogue replaced in AOTC to help him seem like he’s grown or changed in the decade since TPM. I believe that was the original idea.
“Obi! I’m so please to see you again!”
“Senator Amidala, I’m pleased to present these two Jedi arriving.”
“I’m busting with happiness seeing you again, Anakin.”
“She’s happy. Happier than I’ve seen her in a long time.”
“I am honored to be taking on this heavy burden. I accept this with all humility and…”
“…Senate. Fellow delegates. In response to this direct threat to the Republic, I propose that the Senate give immediate emergency powers to the Supreme Chancellor.”
Later in the hallway “Don’t touch my robes, I’ll fucking kill you!”
Oooh, I like that second line in and of itself but it feels like the wrong editing decision not to show her face for it. (Granted, TROS itself could have easily looked that exact same way based on the obvious constraints they had, if they had access to this same tool.)
I don’t think this one blends in all that well, at least not compared to what we already have. I like how the existing version has Kylo emphasize “Captain” as a slight. It would have been a holy pain in the ass to mix it in properly, so this is admittedly rough:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/132D9H_Ive1NXbSolsds8CSABQojAzrmU/view?usp=share_link
“Girls are helpless and could not possibly have escaped my forces.”
Here’s hoping it levels out again, and I’m grateful for the material you mined from it even if it doesn’t. I love the idea of Leia beckoning, “Come home,” as it would tie into our modified final scene.
And that really would be interesting, to have a shot at having 3PO never regain his memories. I wish we had more material to work with of he and R2 talking. R2 could identify him as his “best friend,” and 3PO could express not recognizing him but imply R2 said they’ve known each other a long time, maybe asking, “Tell me about it” or something. We couldn’t smash cut to them straight away, and would lose a few seconds as R2 retracts his… rod, but they could just be carrying on and 3PO could ask something like, “And then what happened?” or “Oh my, how did we ever survive all that madness?” (It’d even sort of mirror their little conversation in Episode I right before the podrace.)
And I do love the idea of calling back to Episode II with 3PO not recognizing the name Luke Skywalker. Unless… R2 has already told him a bit about him. “…a message from this ‘Luke Skywalker’ I’m told I know very well” or something.
(All these quotes are provisional.)
Sure! Next time I’m there I will. Doesn’t hurt to try it.
I also wonder about 3PO dialogue using this tool. The short conversation with the troopers could literally be whatever we want. Or the line “where is an R2 unit when you need one.”
Maybe he wakes up with restored memory and recites a wookiepedia article of his history.
Ooorrrrr… in Episode I he can say something even better than what’s in my edit to imply a backstory.
Chipping away at it, but there’ll be a wait for some of these other projects at least. So no ETA right now. But it’ll be at least until Devastator v2 because there’ll be some hella good stuff in there.
And probably another update later when his master source material is finished and when Revisited:HD is finished.
I know the feeling. Helmeted Kylo AI is a hit, though!
Here’s audio for the dyad line:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p_XaVB6PyUwrkDo_Y_usHD3FkGVlfah7/view?usp=share_link
And here’s an extended clip of Rey and Kylo, featuring both “you were right” and “they paid for your protection… in more than one way”:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OLI0z0NYrYaIj1DY_DxZ_bnrE9duS68x/view?usp=share_link
I would need to (figure out the best way to) add reverb to make them blend in better, but this should tell us whether they’ll work.
I am surprised by how well they seem to blend in already!
Can’t honestly say I strongly prefer one over the other, but that still clears the bar of me “not strongly disagreeing” or whatever I had said.
Yeah, probably same problem with trying to (deep)fake Shaw onto the ghost scene; there’s just not enough to work with.
But yeah, alts for the “we’ve become” line would be welcome. Hoping to get to my computer tonight to be able to play with these. But if not, I will when I can, and see what needs to be adjusted to massage them into place.
With any luck I will be able to plug in these clips tonight and see how they play in full context. I wonder if a variations of just the words “we’ve become” could be produced, to give options, as I imagine that potentially being improved, but not the entire line. Maybe include it in a few contexts, such as starting and ending a sentence with it.
I like “Captain Hux” as we already have it, but I will try it with that clip also just to be sure.
Well all right then. 😃
Bricks, I like that! I think one of our resident audio engineers could massage that to be a bit closer to fit in, but it’s… authentic… in that weird sort of way.
As far as Poe, ideally during a cutaway shot or two he could comment about the fleet. Here’s a rough idea.
“He’s been planning his revenge. An enormous stockpile of Imperial Star Destroyers, his contingency plan. He calls it the Final Order. Together, this fleet has unstoppable power. The Emperor and his [followers] have been hiding in the Unknown Regions. On a world called Exegol.”
I skimmed across your two BOBF edits, and I really like the structure of them. They would make a great two-part miniseries, like a special two-night event for Boba Fett as a reprieve from the rest of The Mandalorian. Each part seems to have its own identity, and looks like they’d work well that way. It’s only too bad that part 2 has a much longer runtime, as if it were done officially they’d probably be closer.
Still, I do love the way it seems to be structured, as slogging through BOFA again would feel like a chore.
Assuming you don’t have any ideas I disagree strongly with, and would like to publish your efforts in this way, I’d be happy to take what you do and incorporate them into a future (“official”?) revision of CoD itself.
Are there any particular moments you noticed it?
Wow, those are incredible!
Wow, you’re right about that!
Hmm… it’s a very quick line reading. Awesome that it can even be done at all. How’d it sound to just have “You were right”? I don’t suppose there’s any other way to prompt it to deliver it differently. I’d be happy to mix it in and just see how it fares against what poppasketti did.
Celebrate the love, guys. Yub Nub is the height of semi-diagetic music in SW.