Really helps that shot of Rey which we have intercutting with Kylo from behind the scenes footage feel finished.
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Oh my God, I love that idea, Nev.
“Oh, hello there, Luke. Been quite a while. Let me instruct you on the Force ability to merge your consciousness as you slip into the ethereal realm. There’s a good lad.”
Since there’s a little chat of an updated version lately, and I’ve just rewatched the trilogy a couple of times, some thoughts/wishes for consideration:
- Back in the day there was some talk of different colour schemes for new planets on familiar biomes. For my money I’d be interested in a more red/purple Pasaana desert, and maybe a more autumnal or pastel Ajan Kloss.
I’d be open to it but couldn’t make it happen myself. I don’t feel a need for this to happen c though.
- We also talked about Rey’s crackly saber actually shorting out at some point - did anything get finished there?
I think MR was working on it but it never materialized. It’d be cool to have if possible, but okay if not.
- Audio effects suggesting that force healing (“the power to prevent those we love from death”) is more of a darkside power could help explain why it’s not more commonly known or used.
I don’t think that’d be a good idea, as it reads as a kindly or self-sacrificing thing to do which characters always appear “good” when doing.
- I’d love to have Kylo tell Han’s ghost/vision/memory “I love you” before Han replies “I know”, preceding Kylo throwing away his saber. Poetry yes, but also a beautiful inversion of how it was first used.
I prefer it the way it is. Sublime.
- As others have mentioned, it’d be nice to have C-3PO’s memory stay wiped.
If it feels seamless and smooth, I agree.
- A longshot that’s likely dependent on AI, but possibly the only opportunity to answer “a good question for another time” might be to have Lando talk to Maz during the finale celebrations, perhaps: “You did a great job taking care of that lightsaber I entrusted to you, Maz”.
That wouldn’t do anything to answer the question of how it was recovered and I’m not sure how you’d mix that in anyway.
- To make the Dyad feel more deliberately planned, I’d be interested to see the image from TLJ of the black/white yinyang being from the stone pool in Luke’s temple flash up at a sensible point - “we’ve become a Dyad” perhaps?
The only occasions in the movie that it would feel natural would be removed from that context.
- The Jedi texts also provide an opportunity to imply in-universe existence of both Dyads (an image like the yinyang being?) and soul transferrence (though I appreciate that’s more of a Sith power), via a method similar to Neverargreat’s drawing of Rey’s island from TFA:Starlight
Do we get a look at multiple pages of the book, or just the one with a drawing of a wayfinder? If there’s another page visible and someone wanted to add a yin-yang, I could use it. But I don’t have any strong feelings on this one.
- Might there be a way to improve on “I made Snoke”? Perhaps “I trained Snoke. A puppet designed to make you who I needed you to be.”?
Hard to imagine an AI delivering his dialogue in a theatrical way. Also, I like the ambiguity of “I made Snoke,” so it works well with this edit’s implication and any subsequent SW material.
- I’d remove the Rey/Kylo kiss, and Lando’s weird scene with Jannah, but I’m sure you’ve got a good reason for keeping those.
It’s the only scrap of sex we get in the whole trilogy, and culminates their double orbit. Wouldn’t want to remove Lando and Jannah, though it’d make more sense if we had the deleted scene of Lando describing losing a daughter.
- It’d also be nice to, via VFX, see a bit more of the First Order merged with the Final Order - via the odd shot of First Order white stormtroopers, officers, and starships in appropriate shots.
Yeah, it hurts my brain to try to untangle the plot mechanics involved in the First and Final Orders, at least as we’ve augmented their relationship somewhat. Ideally Palpatine and his cultists should be depicted to be as small as possible, with their Imperial stockpile being their ace in the hole. And Palpatine makes his play to bring the First Order under his control, having set it up by proxy. In TROS it seems like Palpatine reveals himself, saying “lol wow look how much I have, makes the First Order seem puny” and not “now I claim the First Order I set up in order to man this fleet.”
Hey I could try folding that in; I know the mix was already sorta crowded, though. But I like it.
FWIW, I don’t regard that cameo as being the youngling character himself, but an unspecified Jedi from sometime within the last 1000 generations we hadn’t already met in the movies.
And in an edit that still has Hayden Christensen as Anakin’s ghost, I don’t think it makes sense to replace Ewan McGregor’s actual voice with an AI of Alec Guiness. Whether there’s a worthwhile line to toss in is another question, but it might be more of a cool idea that could be done rather than satisfying a need.
It really doesn’t sound far off from McGregor even, somehow.
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I would have deeply disliked that idea being realized. He was redeemed and then died, and so forever after he’s on that trajectory.
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Sounds 100% like Carrie Fischer reading the line. Not necessarily dramatic acting, but I’ll be pleased to mock it up and see how we feel about it. Thank you.
Might be weird to to go right to the next line, “It cannot be. The Emperor is dead.”
What about…
“We’ve decoded the intel from the First Order spy, and it confirms the worst: Emperor Palpatine has returned.”
It may not shoehorn in any new exposition, but it gets Leia active. However, it may only further betray the fact Carrie was already gone to not show her delivering any portion of the line.
+1 against camera shake. It works for ships and fighters to shake on impact, but it doesn’t feel right for the camera to, let alone for this shot. IMHO
Where are you trying to make it look like they are?
Well, Poe is the one that describes the fleet. It may not feel natural to have Leia shoehorn in exposition about it only for Poe to then give it a general introduction.
I wonder if we could have Leia begin the little briefing at the start of the movie. We could get rid of the Emperor’s Fortnight speech we added, and come into the scene with something like this:
Leia: Emperor Palpatine has returned from the dead, and laid claim to his former Empire. The First Order was a diversion.
Cut to that one shot of Leia looking worried.
Poe: “His followers have been building…” and the scene plays out.
Not at all sure of it, but tossing out the idea.
Burbin, that’s gorgeous. Whenever you finish it, send it and I guess I’ll have to officially declare open season for V3.
And I still have not mentally grappled with the possibilities introduced by the AI voices JJB has brought to the table. I feel we’d do well to avoid getting into what we could do, and instead use it to meet needs and fill gaps. (Which has been the case so far; I’m talking to myself.)
Maybe we could clean this up a little with Mark Hamill’s voice.
Luke Skywalker:
“It was the last night of her training. Leia sensed that she could do more good following another path. She surrendered her saber to me and said that one day, it would be picked up again by a Jedi who would finish her journey. A thousand generations live in you now. We’ll always be with you, but this is your fight.”
Absolutely this. Y’know, if it works seamlessly.
As far as “Thank you, Rose,” where do you imagine placing this line?
Not that I can think of for TLJ. Maaaaybe he could say “lesson three” or something like it for TROS. Even then I’m not sold on the change, so it may not be worth training a whole AI just to try it out.
Could we try “He’s too dangerous, Rey” for the short scene? I feel like addressing Rey by name helped the delivery and make it feel less like dialogue lifted from TFA where she barely talked to Rey at all.
I like “He’s” but feel the one that ended with “, Rey” cohered better into the scene.
You’re on a roll, keep it up. I love the read on that. I need to sit down and look over things to see if I see anything else to try to do, things to help existing goals.
Leia saying “come home” would be welcome too.
I’m adoring these.
I introduced my niece to SW (back before the ST) in order of 4,5,1,2,3,6 and agree it worked very well. Not sure if it’d work quite as well tacking 7,8,9 onto it afterward, breaking up the OT like that. And going right from Death Star II to Death Star III. In this order you get the Death Star first and five movies go by before Death Star II.
Now that’d be a great line. I love it.
I’m not sure how best to pursue the opportunity of adding something before her line, “always, in the shadows from the very beginning.” I’m thinking something that makes the line feel like it’s something about this news about Palpatine rather than clearly an old line about Snoke. But, it sounds solidly like the beginning of a sentence rather than the end.