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- The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Best of luck. When you return victorious hopefully we’ll have a nice list.
Best of luck. When you return victorious hopefully we’ll have a nice list.
That’s wonderful. This is really looking up. 😃
Mmmm, that’s really something. Sounds a lot closer. Worst you could say about that now is that it sounds like a different take or recorded in a different room or something. (I’m sure EQ could compensate.)
Could the lines for Leia be given the same treatment? Between this and ChatGPT I’m starting to feel some existential dread! lol
I hate to downplay it, as it’s phenomenal and I know it takes a lot of time and effort on your part. I’m sure we could find a hundred other cool uses for these, besides.
Hoping replacing words at a time could let us get away with what we’re after.
As we’re discussing AI, if I may throw out, the Duel of the Fates script has a scene of Luke telling Kylo to go home. Maybe the AI could read that or something similar, in place of Kylos psychic talk with Palpatine?
I don’t think we’d be able to pull off anything dramatic enough to be worth upstaging his entrance into the movie by catching the saber.
I brought our situation before the Great and Powerful Wizard of ChatGPT. After a few back and forths to really bring its headspace alongside my own on this, it generated this:
Here are a few more options for replacement lines that aim to convey a sense of compelling finality, while still avoiding direct references to the death of Leia’s son:
“Leia sensed that her journey as a Jedi was complete, but her role in the galaxy was just beginning.”
“Leia knew that her time as a Jedi had come to an end, but her destiny was far from over.”
“Leia felt a sense of closure in her Jedi training, knowing that her true purpose lay elsewhere.”
“Leia understood that her path as a Jedi had served its purpose, and that her greater mission lay ahead.”
These lines all suggest a sense of finality in Leia’s Jedi path, but also hint at the idea that her story is far from over and that she has a greater role to play in the galaxy. Depending on your preferences, one of these options could work well to add a bit more depth to the moment while still retaining the original performance.
Once again, it sounds very convincing as the original actor… doing a table read.
I do agree that it seems better to keep the fireside conversation as it is, as least for the main ‘Rey Palpatine’ version, rather than try to sell a dramatic reveal about Leia knowing something that isn’t revelatory.
Does Luke have enough dialogue in TLJ and TROS to train an AI? Even if only to cherry-pick phrases from?
And what about simply, “Leia told me that she had reached the end of her Jedi path”?
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I like what it implies, as it matches pre-TROS understanding of Leia’s life story, but it may not match the expression on her face during the flashback. Like they’re sparring and her training is almost done and she’s suddenly like “omg I just sensed that I could probably do more in politics.”
To be fair, TROS:A as it stands doesn’t fare any better.
Yeah. For that line, I’d like to try having it generate the same line as in the current version of the fan edit: “Leia told me she sensed the end of her Jedi path.” Might help smooth it over just like the line from Kylo about having become a dyad.
Congratulations! You’ve put a ludicrous amount of time and effort into this project, and I look forward to watching it with my kids when they get just a little older.
Absolutely. I hope this does sound convincing because it is quite elegant.
Yeah, I like that! I would imagine we’d get away with it more cleanly if we left “because she saw your spirit” alone instead.
But I like the train of thought! It sort of implies that Leia had a sense of danger about Rey as somehow related to the Emperor. Not necessarily as a blood relative but as a potential occupant of his throne.
That or have Luke say, “Well technically you father was just a clone of the Emperor, so you aren’t really related to him, Rey. I think you’ll be fine.”
I edited my last post. Just making sure you see it.
I’m crying. I think that works well, at least written out.
A couple potential alternates:
“Leia sensed the conflict within you.”
“Leia sensed your struggle with the darkness inside you.”
Something to sound less like she is facing an inevitable pull toward darkness which she will never master. I do wonder, though, why this should be news to Rey, given that Luke also sensed her pull to the darkness in TLJ.
Hmm, I don’t know about that. Makes it sound like he’s saying when a Jedi dies they can essentially perform an intel raid and report back.
When I first saw TROS, when Rey said she destroyed Ren’s ship and didn’t have the Wayfinder so she cannot get to Exegol, I anticipated Luke responding with, “Well, you see, when I died and became a ghost I gained omniscience so I can simply tell you how to get there.”
I know Ben Kenobi imparted new, plot-related information to Luke in ROTJ (or just narrowly avoided it, since technically Luke produced the key bit), but I don’t think this is proper for a spirit like this in a story like this.
That’s great, man!
I know when discussing it before, we had floated “birth” of her son instead of death. Might be good to generate that line, as I’m sure someone or other may want it even if I don’t.
It’d also be good to get a few readings of “Lesson three.” Not sure I’ll use it but, again, there’ll be interest.
I’m not sure if something could be done to replace a bit of screen time around the “Leia knew it too.”
Luke: “Because you’re a Palpatine. __________.”
Rey: “She didn’t tell me.”
Luke: “…”
Rey: “She still trained me.”
Luke: “________. Your heart. _________. Some things are stronger than blood. Confronting fear is the destiny of a Jedi…”
I bet this will help the Rey Nobody version even more.
Them ancient VHS based fan edits of TPM that subtitled Jar Jar would be amazed.
Sounds great!
That’d even tie in nicely when Qui-Gon gives a knowing smile when Boss Nass agrees to help.
Y’know, for an edit that removes meeting Boss Nass at the start of the movie. Like mine.
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“And also the Bad Batch existed and went on to do things for a while.”
Yeah, it might be clumsy to try to shoehorn that in. We’ve moved away from the answer simply and directly being “somehow,” so I’m good with that.
JJB, would it be easy to send me all these bits of audio you’ve done? And I can see which work and select from there?
Honestly even if it’s just the Kylo lines and “he’s too dangerous” it’ll be a marked improvement to the project.
I think George locked them in a room and wouldn’t let them eat until the whole trilogy was ready.