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- The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Could she whisper it?
Could she whisper it?
Those are real nice, JJB. I’m content with them as well. And if you have or can generate those Kylo lines for their conversation on Pasaana, I think they sound great.
I’m going to axe changing “son” to anything else. The movie doesn’t even hint at any cloning going on there so I don’t want to inject any confusion. If I’m just watching the movies, I can avoid that particular headache.
As far as lengthening the granddaughter line or reveal, I think that’d be a nice way to finish Kylo’s thesis about proving to Rey who she is. I like it.
Here’s what’s on my radar for a V3 update:
Burbin’s Sith eyes for Rey✅
AI voice for Leia - two lines; waiting for updated versions. These are “He’s too dangerous” and “A Jedi needs her weapon.” Would be nice to get a few alts for her saying “Rey” because TROS uses the same twice.
AI voice for Kylo Ren✅ - “You were right” and “They paid for your protection… in more than one way.”
AI voice for 3PO - Replacing “What a dreadful situation, where is an R2 unit when you need one” and the little exchange between he and the stormtroopers which could literally be whatever we want
AI voice for Luke - Unlikely at this point, or maybe to smooth out “sensed the end of her Jedi path” with a syllable or two
AI voice for Rey - “The Jedi texts taught me something.”
AI line for Ben Kenobi (page 626)
Yellow lightning? (As much as I like it, it has more of a place in the Rey Nobody version)
Shuttle vs TIE? (I know, I know… I’ll abide by the prior poll)
Fix pink saber on Exegol✅
Yeah, I think it’s a fairly elegant solution to making our plot change work without leaving seams. It’s incredible that something not on any of our radars two months ago could swoop in and afford such luxury.
Here’s where we’re up to, and it isn’t half bad!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kknVSS6pVbUgJINQrWwoxU2sR8nTiAE6/view?usp=share_link
I made it about halfway through the book and got fatigued from relitigating the plot implications of TROS and getting a headache.
Would you mind generating Burbin’s as well? Comparing them to dreadnaughts probably communicates a lot to Chewie to be fair.
Here’s a decent generation: https://drive.google.com/file/d/14h0B5y1LioNbtuVBdA-2j7Wi5wA1L0iC/view?usp=sharing
It’s a flat reading of it, so I wonder if shuffling the dice could finesse it at all.
And might be nice not to repeat the word ‘fleet.’ And be something for Chewie to react to.
“Their new/added laser cannons outgun us.”
Not that… but something like that.
Exactly. Since they appear anyway it’s cleaner to acknowledge them somehow. Something like that would be welcome.
And thanks, Burbin! I’ll tuck that in and see how it plays.
Well there’s room for one more offscreen line from where there used to be “in 16 hours he’ll start killing everbody.” If there’s anything else we want to shoehorn in there.
“He’s been planning his revenge. His followers have been hiding something for years. An enormous stockpile of Star Destroyers from the old Empire. He calls it the final order. [By the way he returned via cloning.] His followers have been hiding in the Unknown Regions, on a world called Exegol.”
Here’s where things are with the Poe scene: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11itAzDZGR02gwOft3MPnw5OiVwdP9-Ll?usp=share_link
That URL links you to a folder, which contains a test clip as well as the footage that needs to be doctored to fit the new line. If anyone with the ability to do so could make it work, I think we will have gotten away with this change pretty effectively.
Hello There.
Can you smooth over the visual difference where I cut midway through Poe’s line?
Here’s how they sound in context. The line about his followers building something has one edit point halfway through to bring it into sync, and the lipsync even looks good as-is. If someone is able to apply a surgical morph to mask the cut, it’d work. Or, we just can’t show Poe for that shot.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jTZfPqEHWMolAu3Ghp4iR6AuaZUBKN1e/view?usp=share_link
I imagine that being perfect for the shot. Well see if tonight favors me with any free time.
I’ll sit down with these whenever possible, and see how they shake out. 😃
That does sound like an improvement, and about the right register. Is there a way to direct it to deliver it more slowly? If there is, that may help tailor it to the scene. Or really any variation.
The line “he calls it the Final Order” in particular should be slower, and not necessarily have emphasis on any one word. It’s the one that needs to be able to match Poe onscreen.
YES.
Also, if the “his followers have been ___ something for years” could be told to slow down, or try to get several iterations so that with any luck I can lipsync it close enough to be able to have the line onscreen. The line as originally delivered emphasized “hiding” and did not emphasize “years,” so doing likewise may help.
If the rest of the lines can sound like what you just generated, and we can get that line to match lipsync, I think we’ll have this in the bag.
If possible, multiple line readings or variations would be nice for the “His fleet is a such and such from the Empire,” to play with and see what fits best.
Now I know how Lucas felt directing TPM from the editing room, splicing together takes.
Excellent work, JJB, and thanks for continuing it.
I don’t know how the adjectives work, whether there’s a list to choose from or you come up with your own. But if I could address the AI, I would try to get it to use a “raised” voice as though delivering a speech to a large room. Or maybe “speak up.” But if it could get the idea of what we’re going for, I think it could be perfect for this scene.
Here’s the best I can get the Poe lines to sound. It’d be nice to lipsync the line “His followers have been hiding something for years,” but with what’s available now this is what I can do. I don’t think it’s half bad and I doubt anyone would have batted an eye in the theater.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MsJjLxDxVwrjR8KjZNzToTiKnMRxtFVX/view?usp=share_link
Also, I can’t really remove Finn’s line about Endor being “where the last war ended” because it makes the switch in focus of the scene happen very quickly, even for TROS standards.
ALSO, I am going to use yellow lightning for the primary version of Ascendant just like the ‘Rey Nobody’ version, as I very much like how it recontextualizes her yellow saber as an integration of what she feared. BUT, I will continue to honor the poll which showed people favoring using Vader’s TIE rather than the shuttle.
Yeah, seems like a bridge too far. Thanks for trying it out.
Oh, I wasn’t suggesting creating a whole new voice profile, just wondered if his current one could be directed not to be gravelly and work fine.
And hey, it’s just a quick thought as I was watching the latest Mando. 😉
Rather than post this semi-random thought elsewhere, since the Luke voice AI has been discussed here already, would it be fairly easy to get a few line readings to replace his line in ANH “this R2 unite has bad motivator” with “R5”? The radio drama has him call it an R5 unit, but the delivery is very different and can’t really be edited in very well.
Not bad.
Edit a snippet from TLJ into ESB, touching it up with VFX to fit into the Hoth environment.
A rebel solider preparing for the battle dips his finger into the ground, tastes it, spits it out and derisively says, “Snow.”
Count Dooku is 400 years old.