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- The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Thank you! That’s very nice to have.
Thank you! That’s very nice to have.
Now that’s really fucking cool.
I’d like an alternate, if you’ll pardon interrupting with something outside this edit, of her saying that they do not know the target.
“The First Order, they’re charging the weapon now. Target unknown.”
Yes, that line would work fine! It doesn’t quite sound just like him, as the line would be sandwiched between instances of Ep1 3PO speaking.
Hehehe, how funny.
Effeminate and annoying?*
Y’know… and I don’t mean this as a serious suggestion, it’d almost make sense to replace all his lines after being memory wiped with that flat expression.
Those Luke lines should help. I’ll try it next time I can, whenever that may be. I’m busier than I want to be!
*This is how the Owen Lars character described him in the 1999 spoof ‘Thumb Wars.’
It’d sound wonderful as Luke in any other use case, but I agree it may not be totally viable to do a guitar solo alongside the original voice two seconds on either side.
I forget, have you generated the line as we have it in Ascendant? It could still maybe help our truncated line sound better right at the edit point.
Don’t need to be generated again necessarily, just trying to get a list of all of them that I am aware of or would like.
And that last line for Luke sounds really good. Is it with the gravelly option turned on? I wish I had more free time, but the family situation has not afforded me any time whatsoever to work on this stuff; Hoping to mix it into the scene to be able to tell how well it will gel with what it needs to gel with.
Was woken up in middle of the night, and went back to sleep. When I did, I dreamed I went to see Episode 9 for the first time, and it was an extremely avant-garde movie with fourth wall breaks, zero familiar characters from the other movies, YouTube Poop techniques, footage set on Earth including a cop show, and cutting to the end credits while they are already in progress after making a joke about how no one wants to even see the credits.
In the dream, I felt like this was a deliberate, extreme desire to fail on purpose with the movie.
It was so weird.
I meant a list of lines to generate.
Which am I missing? Or what other ideas have we?
Leia:
“He’s too dangerous.”
“Rey.” “Rey!” (To maybe replace one of her two uses of her name which are obviously the same recording.)
“A Jedi needs her weapon.”
“Ben… come home.”
Luke:
“Lesson three.”
“It was the last night of her training. Leia told me that she had sensed the end of her Jedi path. She surrendered it to me and said that one day it would be picked up again by a Jedi who would finish her journey.” (And variants of this.)
Rey:
“The Jedi texts taught me something.”
Kylo Ren:
“They paid for your protection… in more than one way.”
“What Palpatine doesn’t know is we’ve become a dyad in the force, Rey.”
“I sense unease about my appearance, Captain Hux.”
C-3PO:
Something for his short conversation with the two troopers (and the troopers could easily say anything).
“Where is an R2 unit when you need one?”
“I still don’t understand this assignment.”
“Mechanical work? I thought I was a rebel spy.”
(And a few for my Ep1 edit)
“I was protocol droid to the Manakron system’s chief negotiator.” (And maybe a variant where he abruptly cuts himself off midway through the last word.)
“Oh, my, sounds rather perilous. I hope never to find myself on a mission of that nature.”
“Oh, my. Space travel is quite perilous, indeed. I have no desire to board a starship ever again.”
“Oh, my. Sounds rather perilous. I hope never to end up on a starship again.”
“Indeed, starships are quite perilous. I didn’t even survive last time I was aboard one.”
“Master Annie, you have repaired me quite well. However, I should prefer it if I were a little more… completed.”
Best of luck. When you return victorious hopefully we’ll have a nice list.
That’s wonderful. This is really looking up. 😃
Mmmm, that’s really something. Sounds a lot closer. Worst you could say about that now is that it sounds like a different take or recorded in a different room or something. (I’m sure EQ could compensate.)
Could the lines for Leia be given the same treatment? Between this and ChatGPT I’m starting to feel some existential dread! lol
I hate to downplay it, as it’s phenomenal and I know it takes a lot of time and effort on your part. I’m sure we could find a hundred other cool uses for these, besides.
Hoping replacing words at a time could let us get away with what we’re after.
As we’re discussing AI, if I may throw out, the Duel of the Fates script has a scene of Luke telling Kylo to go home. Maybe the AI could read that or something similar, in place of Kylos psychic talk with Palpatine?
I don’t think we’d be able to pull off anything dramatic enough to be worth upstaging his entrance into the movie by catching the saber.
I brought our situation before the Great and Powerful Wizard of ChatGPT. After a few back and forths to really bring its headspace alongside my own on this, it generated this:
Here are a few more options for replacement lines that aim to convey a sense of compelling finality, while still avoiding direct references to the death of Leia’s son:
“Leia sensed that her journey as a Jedi was complete, but her role in the galaxy was just beginning.”
“Leia knew that her time as a Jedi had come to an end, but her destiny was far from over.”
“Leia felt a sense of closure in her Jedi training, knowing that her true purpose lay elsewhere.”
“Leia understood that her path as a Jedi had served its purpose, and that her greater mission lay ahead.”
These lines all suggest a sense of finality in Leia’s Jedi path, but also hint at the idea that her story is far from over and that she has a greater role to play in the galaxy. Depending on your preferences, one of these options could work well to add a bit more depth to the moment while still retaining the original performance.
Once again, it sounds very convincing as the original actor… doing a table read.
I do agree that it seems better to keep the fireside conversation as it is, as least for the main ‘Rey Palpatine’ version, rather than try to sell a dramatic reveal about Leia knowing something that isn’t revelatory.
Does Luke have enough dialogue in TLJ and TROS to train an AI? Even if only to cherry-pick phrases from?
And what about simply, “Leia told me that she had reached the end of her Jedi path”?
lol
I like what it implies, as it matches pre-TROS understanding of Leia’s life story, but it may not match the expression on her face during the flashback. Like they’re sparring and her training is almost done and she’s suddenly like “omg I just sensed that I could probably do more in politics.”
To be fair, TROS:A as it stands doesn’t fare any better.
Yeah. For that line, I’d like to try having it generate the same line as in the current version of the fan edit: “Leia told me she sensed the end of her Jedi path.” Might help smooth it over just like the line from Kylo about having become a dyad.
Congratulations! You’ve put a ludicrous amount of time and effort into this project, and I look forward to watching it with my kids when they get just a little older.
Absolutely. I hope this does sound convincing because it is quite elegant.
Yeah, I like that! I would imagine we’d get away with it more cleanly if we left “because she saw your spirit” alone instead.
But I like the train of thought! It sort of implies that Leia had a sense of danger about Rey as somehow related to the Emperor. Not necessarily as a blood relative but as a potential occupant of his throne.
That or have Luke say, “Well technically you father was just a clone of the Emperor, so you aren’t really related to him, Rey. I think you’ll be fine.”
I edited my last post. Just making sure you see it.
I’m crying. I think that works well, at least written out.
A couple potential alternates:
“Leia sensed the conflict within you.”
“Leia sensed your struggle with the darkness inside you.”
Something to sound less like she is facing an inevitable pull toward darkness which she will never master. I do wonder, though, why this should be news to Rey, given that Luke also sensed her pull to the darkness in TLJ.