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#1532558
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Star Wars Episode X: Fate Of The Jedi (title TBD)
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I see the logic like this. Take it for granted that they’ll never end up releasing anything titled “Episode 10” ever.

If they’d never made 7, 8, and 9, and all the Legends/EU novels were films instead, you could consider the Thrawn trilogy to be 7, 8, and 9. Anything that substantively advances the Skywalker story at the time of its release (it is set further ahead than anything else already reckoned as an “Episode”), would be considered the next “Episode.”

By this logic, the movies would have been:

Episode 7: Heir to the Empire
Episode 8: Dark Force Rising
Episode 9: The Last Command
Episode 10: Jedi Search
Episode 11: Dark Apprentice
Episode 12: Champions of the Force

Etcetera. But Truce at Bakura, or Courtship of Princess Leia? No dice, as at their release they were set prior to where we’d gotten up to.

Presumably they won’t make nearly as many movies about the Skywalkers in this way as they published novels.

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#1532539
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Star Wars Episode X: Fate Of The Jedi (title TBD)
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Even if there aren’t, and I’m sure there’ll be more than just this movie that takes place afterward which substantively deals with the outflowing of the Skywalker saga (which now includes Rey) in the future, Episode X seems logical to stick on this one from what we know so far.

It’d certainly be cool to eventually have a 10, 11, and 12. But we’d need films that are very much integral to the Skywalker thread or line, which Rey now intrinsically is. A Poe movie wouldn’t cut it, but one which largely only features Rey as a returning presence would seem to.

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#1532535
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Star Wars Episode X: Fate Of The Jedi (title TBD)
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General film discussion thread, for non-fan-edit-related discussion: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Rey-Skywalker-Upcoming-live-action-motion-picture-general-discussion-thread/id/103921/page/1#1532655

With the recent unexpected announcement of a film featuring Rey Skywalker set fifteen years after The Rise of Skywalker which will focus on her efforts to rebuild the Jedi Order, I feel warranted in creating this project thread. I’m being a little snarky in doing so, but even though we know extremely little about this film I already have a central idea.

This movie appears to be suited for a title prefix of “Episode 10” in substance. It’s a major motion picture about what happens to the chief character of the prior trilogy. From a marketing perspective, LFL likely does not want to remain beholden to these episode numbers. But from an old-school nerd perspective, giving it this title would seem appropriate.

So one thing I would hope to do is add a proper opening and title crawl to consider it an Episode X, as well as working in any trappings of the main saga films that could be missing, such as potentially needing to add some traditional Williams-esque score or optical wipe transitions. I would also plan to release a version that makes whatever changes are made, but which does not wrap the film in the ‘Episode X’ title. (If this film doesn’t have a Wilhelm scream, by God we’ll add one.)

Part of the reason I am making this thread is to selfishly claim a spot in hopefully managing another collaborative project. Or at worst, foment productive discussion toward such a project even if someone else helms it by that point in the indeterminate, you-never-know-what-life-will-throw-at-you future.

SKYWALKER LIVES

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#1530949
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Released)
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I recently gave TAS its absolute final update so I am fully finished with that project and have no intention of revising it further.

COD may or may not get one last spruce up and there’s a couple of those bits and pieces I’d reinstate but nothing major that substantially changes the edit.

And as I mentioned above I’m planning to revise the alternate version of LOE but not the main version. LOE has always been a more different cut from the original than the other to prequels, and so it’s the one least likely to please most people.

And at this point the Hal9000 prequel edits have become enough of a thing that changing them to a large degree would be unfair. Also, you gotta keep in mind that I’ve been fucking around off and on for a total range of years from 2004 to the present. Once this batch of small updates takes place I’m going to publicly swear off touching these three again.

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#1529590
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Released)
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I added Yoda going to Dagobah in order to fix a gap left by removing the funeral. With the funeral being part of the alternate version I feel the ending is better without adding Yoda.

And Obi-Wan knowing that Vader is Anakin’s Sith name is part of the Kenobi show. Me removing that mention doesn’t alter that.

I’m not revising LOE overall, just the alternate version.

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#1529516
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Could he say, in response to being asked who he is, “I had hoped you would tell me!”

The only other line that would really be good to have is something to fit after “What a dreadful situation,” where we currently have “Where is an R2 unit when you need one,” which has sound effects over top. For this one, what about “I don’t think I’m programmed to be a mechanic.”

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#1529443
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Released)
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No, that’s outside what the goal of the alternate version is. And if that’s what you’d like to see, L8wrtr’s version would come pretty close. (That’s why I held out on doing an alternate version to begin with, because his is already a well done edit that concludes that way. But this alternate version will execute what LOE does best except properly accommodating the theatrical ending.)

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#1529381
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Released)
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Soon I’ll be updating the alternate version of LOE in which Padme dies.

I didn’t originally have an alternate version, but exported one in response to frequent requests for it. However, LOE really isn’t set up for Padme to die at the end.

So, I thought it’d be reasonable to update just the alternate version, to make it a little more suitable for that ending.

The changes have to do with the order of scenes as the political and prophetic elements are set on the board. In LOE, we put Anakin through all the political twists and turns before dunking him into a single tantalizing nightmare which Palpatine takes advantage of.

Here’s the new order of scenes for the alternate, ‘Padme Dies’ version:

  • Anakin learns Padme is pregnant
  • Greivous arrives on Utupau and speaks with Sidious
  • Nightmare, Anakin walks out of bedroom
  • Opera scene (excised mention of Greivous intel, since it’s not followed up with for a while)
  • Yoda’s counseling session
  • Anakin misses briefing and Obi-Wan warns him of Palpatine
  • Palpatine appoints Anakin to Jedi Council
  • Council doesn’t like this
  • Bail’s apartment deleted scene
  • Anakin is asked to spy on Palpatine
  • Jedi traffic scene
  • Anakin and Padme talk about their political views and have a bad time
  • Troops setting up on Khshyyyk, and LOE continues more or less the same from here until the ending (same as current alternate version ending)

This ordering retains most of what LOE does with this section of the movie, except the nightmare now functions as a catalyst and is followed up by Palpatine in the opera scene framing for the audience all the political scenes that follow. We get to keep the scene between Anakin and Yoda, which is nice. Anakin still never tells anyone about his nightmares other than when Palpatine brings it up as a gotcha. But, one difference is that I have to use the theatrical version of the “I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi” instead of the deleted scene version because the spot carved out for it in the main version of LOE isn’t there.

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#1528880
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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It might look too similar to his own ship, and people may wonder where he got another one of his own ships.

In a world where the DSII has wreckage recognizable from the overall shape… I think a shuttle being in mint condition is a cinch.

And I do like the read on a shuttle delivering Vader into the DSII and Anakin’s body out of it. So… this relitigates it maybe.