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- #1532049
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- Community Focus Thread 1: The Phantom Menace
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Wow, nice find! That’ll be interesting to hear.
Wow, nice find! That’ll be interesting to hear.
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The day after TROS, every star in the galaxy was destroyed remotely by a malevolent race of beings.
Thank you for reminding me. I reached out to sade1212 to see about it.
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“…And finally, the bake sale to raise money for the car wash has been cancelled due to confusion.”
I recently gave TAS its absolute final update so I am fully finished with that project and have no intention of revising it further.
COD may or may not get one last spruce up and there’s a couple of those bits and pieces I’d reinstate but nothing major that substantially changes the edit.
And as I mentioned above I’m planning to revise the alternate version of LOE but not the main version. LOE has always been a more different cut from the original than the other to prequels, and so it’s the one least likely to please most people.
And at this point the Hal9000 prequel edits have become enough of a thing that changing them to a large degree would be unfair. Also, you gotta keep in mind that I’ve been fucking around off and on for a total range of years from 2004 to the present. Once this batch of small updates takes place I’m going to publicly swear off touching these three again.
Congratulations and well deserved!
I added Yoda going to Dagobah in order to fix a gap left by removing the funeral. With the funeral being part of the alternate version I feel the ending is better without adding Yoda.
And Obi-Wan knowing that Vader is Anakin’s Sith name is part of the Kenobi show. Me removing that mention doesn’t alter that.
I’m not revising LOE overall, just the alternate version.
Could he say, in response to being asked who he is, “I had hoped you would tell me!”
The only other line that would really be good to have is something to fit after “What a dreadful situation,” where we currently have “Where is an R2 unit when you need one,” which has sound effects over top. For this one, what about “I don’t think I’m programmed to be a mechanic.”
No, that’s outside what the goal of the alternate version is. And if that’s what you’d like to see, L8wrtr’s version would come pretty close. (That’s why I held out on doing an alternate version to begin with, because his is already a well done edit that concludes that way. But this alternate version will execute what LOE does best except properly accommodating the theatrical ending.)
Soon I’ll be updating the alternate version of LOE in which Padme dies.
I didn’t originally have an alternate version, but exported one in response to frequent requests for it. However, LOE really isn’t set up for Padme to die at the end.
So, I thought it’d be reasonable to update just the alternate version, to make it a little more suitable for that ending.
The changes have to do with the order of scenes as the political and prophetic elements are set on the board. In LOE, we put Anakin through all the political twists and turns before dunking him into a single tantalizing nightmare which Palpatine takes advantage of.
Here’s the new order of scenes for the alternate, ‘Padme Dies’ version:
This ordering retains most of what LOE does with this section of the movie, except the nightmare now functions as a catalyst and is followed up by Palpatine in the opera scene framing for the audience all the political scenes that follow. We get to keep the scene between Anakin and Yoda, which is nice. Anakin still never tells anyone about his nightmares other than when Palpatine brings it up as a gotcha. But, one difference is that I have to use the theatrical version of the “I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi” instead of the deleted scene version because the spot carved out for it in the main version of LOE isn’t there.
Sorry, I was in a hurry earlier. Yes, I do like that idea and agree it’d remove an awkward cut from Ascendant. 😃
And a line about her saber as a retort about the cracks in his mask… well, it’s like poetry.
That’s not a bad idea, Donkey…
I’m not sure what would be best for it. When Leia hands it to her at the start?
Thank you, Jay.
It might look too similar to his own ship, and people may wonder where he got another one of his own ships.
In a world where the DSII has wreckage recognizable from the overall shape… I think a shuttle being in mint condition is a cinch.
And I do like the read on a shuttle delivering Vader into the DSII and Anakin’s body out of it. So… this relitigates it maybe.
Vader’s Tie me no-likey.
https://youtu.be/9Swd_pFdcXE?t=80
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God damn if that movie isn’t twenty-three years old at this point. And I watched the rest of the clip, lol.
Can I give Nev the power of like ten votes?
They’re included along with the movie itself wherever I’ve made it available. Labeled as a gag reel.
As gorgeous as Leia looks in Jon H’s revised Force ghost sequence, I don’t plan to expand beyond the familiar four spirits of Ben, Yoda, Luke, and Anakin. It goes against the film refraining from her (fully?) joining the Force until her son does, which would require a great deal in order to make work effectively. (We’re straining things as it is hearing her utter one word.)
As far as the shuttle vs TIE… poppasketti rendered out an Imperial shuttle to replace the regular TIE fighter that Ben uses to get to Exegol during the final act of the movie. The idea being that ANH made a point of saying that “a fighter that size couldn’t get this deep into space on its own,” and indeed ancillary material such as the novelization had to come up with a reason to explain why a seemingly regular TIE could get Ben there through hyperspace. So, even though it is a trivial matter, poppasketti spent a lot of time and effort to replace it with a shuttle which we have seen use a hyperdrive onscreen before and which would be plausible to also find laying around a ruined Death Star.
However, poppasketti also rendered out the same shot with other assets swapped in for the TIE. Some of these were jokes, such as the Tianic, Enterprise, and DeLorean. But one was Vader’s TIE from ANH. And some people around here expressed favoring using this instead of the shuttle. They liked the symmetry of Luke’s ship and Vader’s ship, and it looked better visually. However, I preferred the shuttle because it seems to make more sense. (Where did Vader’s TIE come from? We even see him arrive on the second Death Star using a shuttle. Was it onboard his Super Star Destroyer, and fall onto the Death Star when they collided??)
So, I put it to a vote. Which I sort of regret, because my preferred option lost out! But, I have not heard complaints about it anyway, so V2 had Vader’s TIE deliver Ben to Exegol.
Throw it alllll out, and start up fresh with the essential ability to make Kylo Ren say whatever you need him to say.
I look forward to teasing that out.
All this AI dialogue stuff sounds really promising. I definitely think we could generate some stuff specifically for the Rey Nobody version as well.
I’ve been hard at work. I’m much busier these days than at the start of the pandemic when the movie just came out on blu-ray, but hopefully I’ll have something to share within the next few weeks, and Hal can take a look and see what he may or may not want to use for his version.
Oh, God bless you for that. Thanks in advance. I can barely remember how the Rey Nobody version works, logically, though if I had a brain-smoothie and two hours I’m sure I could have done it. lol
Impressive. Seems like at least right now it’d be better suited to specific issues of audio repair rather than a blanket application. I wonder if it could smooth out the BluRay audio enough to… not suck so bad with inconsistent dialogue bordering on each other.
Let’s just try the new lines first. Hopefully they blend well enough not to need anything else, so let’s start there.