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#1530949
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Released)
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I recently gave TAS its absolute final update so I am fully finished with that project and have no intention of revising it further.

COD may or may not get one last spruce up and there’s a couple of those bits and pieces I’d reinstate but nothing major that substantially changes the edit.

And as I mentioned above I’m planning to revise the alternate version of LOE but not the main version. LOE has always been a more different cut from the original than the other to prequels, and so it’s the one least likely to please most people.

And at this point the Hal9000 prequel edits have become enough of a thing that changing them to a large degree would be unfair. Also, you gotta keep in mind that I’ve been fucking around off and on for a total range of years from 2004 to the present. Once this batch of small updates takes place I’m going to publicly swear off touching these three again.

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#1529590
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Released)
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I added Yoda going to Dagobah in order to fix a gap left by removing the funeral. With the funeral being part of the alternate version I feel the ending is better without adding Yoda.

And Obi-Wan knowing that Vader is Anakin’s Sith name is part of the Kenobi show. Me removing that mention doesn’t alter that.

I’m not revising LOE overall, just the alternate version.

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#1529516
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Could he say, in response to being asked who he is, “I had hoped you would tell me!”

The only other line that would really be good to have is something to fit after “What a dreadful situation,” where we currently have “Where is an R2 unit when you need one,” which has sound effects over top. For this one, what about “I don’t think I’m programmed to be a mechanic.”

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#1529443
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Released)
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No, that’s outside what the goal of the alternate version is. And if that’s what you’d like to see, L8wrtr’s version would come pretty close. (That’s why I held out on doing an alternate version to begin with, because his is already a well done edit that concludes that way. But this alternate version will execute what LOE does best except properly accommodating the theatrical ending.)

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#1529381
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Released)
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Soon I’ll be updating the alternate version of LOE in which Padme dies.

I didn’t originally have an alternate version, but exported one in response to frequent requests for it. However, LOE really isn’t set up for Padme to die at the end.

So, I thought it’d be reasonable to update just the alternate version, to make it a little more suitable for that ending.

The changes have to do with the order of scenes as the political and prophetic elements are set on the board. In LOE, we put Anakin through all the political twists and turns before dunking him into a single tantalizing nightmare which Palpatine takes advantage of.

Here’s the new order of scenes for the alternate, ‘Padme Dies’ version:

  • Anakin learns Padme is pregnant
  • Greivous arrives on Utupau and speaks with Sidious
  • Nightmare, Anakin walks out of bedroom
  • Opera scene (excised mention of Greivous intel, since it’s not followed up with for a while)
  • Yoda’s counseling session
  • Anakin misses briefing and Obi-Wan warns him of Palpatine
  • Palpatine appoints Anakin to Jedi Council
  • Council doesn’t like this
  • Bail’s apartment deleted scene
  • Anakin is asked to spy on Palpatine
  • Jedi traffic scene
  • Anakin and Padme talk about their political views and have a bad time
  • Troops setting up on Khshyyyk, and LOE continues more or less the same from here until the ending (same as current alternate version ending)

This ordering retains most of what LOE does with this section of the movie, except the nightmare now functions as a catalyst and is followed up by Palpatine in the opera scene framing for the audience all the political scenes that follow. We get to keep the scene between Anakin and Yoda, which is nice. Anakin still never tells anyone about his nightmares other than when Palpatine brings it up as a gotcha. But, one difference is that I have to use the theatrical version of the “I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi” instead of the deleted scene version because the spot carved out for it in the main version of LOE isn’t there.

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#1528880
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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It might look too similar to his own ship, and people may wonder where he got another one of his own ships.

In a world where the DSII has wreckage recognizable from the overall shape… I think a shuttle being in mint condition is a cinch.

And I do like the read on a shuttle delivering Vader into the DSII and Anakin’s body out of it. So… this relitigates it maybe.

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#1528821
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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As gorgeous as Leia looks in Jon H’s revised Force ghost sequence, I don’t plan to expand beyond the familiar four spirits of Ben, Yoda, Luke, and Anakin. It goes against the film refraining from her (fully?) joining the Force until her son does, which would require a great deal in order to make work effectively. (We’re straining things as it is hearing her utter one word.)

As far as the shuttle vs TIE… poppasketti rendered out an Imperial shuttle to replace the regular TIE fighter that Ben uses to get to Exegol during the final act of the movie. The idea being that ANH made a point of saying that “a fighter that size couldn’t get this deep into space on its own,” and indeed ancillary material such as the novelization had to come up with a reason to explain why a seemingly regular TIE could get Ben there through hyperspace. So, even though it is a trivial matter, poppasketti spent a lot of time and effort to replace it with a shuttle which we have seen use a hyperdrive onscreen before and which would be plausible to also find laying around a ruined Death Star.

However, poppasketti also rendered out the same shot with other assets swapped in for the TIE. Some of these were jokes, such as the Tianic, Enterprise, and DeLorean. But one was Vader’s TIE from ANH. And some people around here expressed favoring using this instead of the shuttle. They liked the symmetry of Luke’s ship and Vader’s ship, and it looked better visually. However, I preferred the shuttle because it seems to make more sense. (Where did Vader’s TIE come from? We even see him arrive on the second Death Star using a shuttle. Was it onboard his Super Star Destroyer, and fall onto the Death Star when they collided??)

So, I put it to a vote. Which I sort of regret, because my preferred option lost out! But, I have not heard complaints about it anyway, so V2 had Vader’s TIE deliver Ben to Exegol.

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#1528789
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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DominicCobb said:

Octorox said:

All this AI dialogue stuff sounds really promising. I definitely think we could generate some stuff specifically for the Rey Nobody version as well.

I’ve been hard at work. I’m much busier these days than at the start of the pandemic when the movie just came out on blu-ray, but hopefully I’ll have something to share within the next few weeks, and Hal can take a look and see what he may or may not want to use for his version.

Oh, God bless you for that. Thanks in advance. I can barely remember how the Rey Nobody version works, logically, though if I had a brain-smoothie and two hours I’m sure I could have done it. lol