Vader’s Tie me no-likey.
https://youtu.be/9Swd_pFdcXE?t=80
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God damn if that movie isn’t twenty-three years old at this point. And I watched the rest of the clip, lol.
Can I give Nev the power of like ten votes?
They’re included along with the movie itself wherever I’ve made it available. Labeled as a gag reel.
As gorgeous as Leia looks in Jon H’s revised Force ghost sequence, I don’t plan to expand beyond the familiar four spirits of Ben, Yoda, Luke, and Anakin. It goes against the film refraining from her (fully?) joining the Force until her son does, which would require a great deal in order to make work effectively. (We’re straining things as it is hearing her utter one word.)
As far as the shuttle vs TIE… poppasketti rendered out an Imperial shuttle to replace the regular TIE fighter that Ben uses to get to Exegol during the final act of the movie. The idea being that ANH made a point of saying that “a fighter that size couldn’t get this deep into space on its own,” and indeed ancillary material such as the novelization had to come up with a reason to explain why a seemingly regular TIE could get Ben there through hyperspace. So, even though it is a trivial matter, poppasketti spent a lot of time and effort to replace it with a shuttle which we have seen use a hyperdrive onscreen before and which would be plausible to also find laying around a ruined Death Star.
However, poppasketti also rendered out the same shot with other assets swapped in for the TIE. Some of these were jokes, such as the Tianic, Enterprise, and DeLorean. But one was Vader’s TIE from ANH. And some people around here expressed favoring using this instead of the shuttle. They liked the symmetry of Luke’s ship and Vader’s ship, and it looked better visually. However, I preferred the shuttle because it seems to make more sense. (Where did Vader’s TIE come from? We even see him arrive on the second Death Star using a shuttle. Was it onboard his Super Star Destroyer, and fall onto the Death Star when they collided??)
So, I put it to a vote. Which I sort of regret, because my preferred option lost out! But, I have not heard complaints about it anyway, so V2 had Vader’s TIE deliver Ben to Exegol.
Throw it alllll out, and start up fresh with the essential ability to make Kylo Ren say whatever you need him to say.
I look forward to teasing that out.
All this AI dialogue stuff sounds really promising. I definitely think we could generate some stuff specifically for the Rey Nobody version as well.
I’ve been hard at work. I’m much busier these days than at the start of the pandemic when the movie just came out on blu-ray, but hopefully I’ll have something to share within the next few weeks, and Hal can take a look and see what he may or may not want to use for his version.
Oh, God bless you for that. Thanks in advance. I can barely remember how the Rey Nobody version works, logically, though if I had a brain-smoothie and two hours I’m sure I could have done it. lol
Impressive. Seems like at least right now it’d be better suited to specific issues of audio repair rather than a blanket application. I wonder if it could smooth out the BluRay audio enough to… not suck so bad with inconsistent dialogue bordering on each other.
Let’s just try the new lines first. Hopefully they blend well enough not to need anything else, so let’s start there.
It’d be for her first line of the movie, after Rey fails at contacting the Jedi of the past.
And I’ll nix the Rey line during the serpent scene.
Could she whisper it?
Those are real nice, JJB. I’m content with them as well. And if you have or can generate those Kylo lines for their conversation on Pasaana, I think they sound great.
I’m going to axe changing “son” to anything else. The movie doesn’t even hint at any cloning going on there so I don’t want to inject any confusion. If I’m just watching the movies, I can avoid that particular headache.
As far as lengthening the granddaughter line or reveal, I think that’d be a nice way to finish Kylo’s thesis about proving to Rey who she is. I like it.
Here’s what’s on my radar for a V3 update:
Burbin’s Sith eyes for Rey✅
AI voice for Leia - two lines; waiting for updated versions. These are “He’s too dangerous” and “A Jedi needs her weapon.” Would be nice to get a few alts for her saying “Rey” because TROS uses the same twice.
AI voice for Kylo Ren✅ - “You were right” and “They paid for your protection… in more than one way.”
AI voice for 3PO - Replacing “What a dreadful situation, where is an R2 unit when you need one” and the little exchange between he and the stormtroopers which could literally be whatever we want
AI voice for Luke - Unlikely at this point, or maybe to smooth out “sensed the end of her Jedi path” with a syllable or two
AI voice for Rey - “The Jedi texts taught me something.”
AI line for Ben Kenobi (page 626)
Yellow lightning? (As much as I like it, it has more of a place in the Rey Nobody version)
Shuttle vs TIE? (I know, I know… I’ll abide by the prior poll)
Fix pink saber on Exegol✅
Yeah, I think it’s a fairly elegant solution to making our plot change work without leaving seams. It’s incredible that something not on any of our radars two months ago could swoop in and afford such luxury.
Here’s where we’re up to, and it isn’t half bad!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kknVSS6pVbUgJINQrWwoxU2sR8nTiAE6/view?usp=share_link
I made it about halfway through the book and got fatigued from relitigating the plot implications of TROS and getting a headache.
Would you mind generating Burbin’s as well? Comparing them to dreadnaughts probably communicates a lot to Chewie to be fair.
Here’s a decent generation: https://drive.google.com/file/d/14h0B5y1LioNbtuVBdA-2j7Wi5wA1L0iC/view?usp=sharing
It’s a flat reading of it, so I wonder if shuffling the dice could finesse it at all.
And might be nice not to repeat the word ‘fleet.’ And be something for Chewie to react to.
“Their new/added laser cannons outgun us.”
Not that… but something like that.
Exactly. Since they appear anyway it’s cleaner to acknowledge them somehow. Something like that would be welcome.
And thanks, Burbin! I’ll tuck that in and see how it plays.
Well there’s room for one more offscreen line from where there used to be “in 16 hours he’ll start killing everbody.” If there’s anything else we want to shoehorn in there.
“He’s been planning his revenge. His followers have been hiding something for years. An enormous stockpile of Star Destroyers from the old Empire. He calls it the final order. [By the way he returned via cloning.] His followers have been hiding in the Unknown Regions, on a world called Exegol.”
Here’s where things are with the Poe scene: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11itAzDZGR02gwOft3MPnw5OiVwdP9-Ll?usp=share_link
That URL links you to a folder, which contains a test clip as well as the footage that needs to be doctored to fit the new line. If anyone with the ability to do so could make it work, I think we will have gotten away with this change pretty effectively.
Hello There.
Can you smooth over the visual difference where I cut midway through Poe’s line?
Here’s how they sound in context. The line about his followers building something has one edit point halfway through to bring it into sync, and the lipsync even looks good as-is. If someone is able to apply a surgical morph to mask the cut, it’d work. Or, we just can’t show Poe for that shot.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jTZfPqEHWMolAu3Ghp4iR6AuaZUBKN1e/view?usp=share_link
I imagine that being perfect for the shot. Well see if tonight favors me with any free time.
I’ll sit down with these whenever possible, and see how they shake out. 😃
That does sound like an improvement, and about the right register. Is there a way to direct it to deliver it more slowly? If there is, that may help tailor it to the scene. Or really any variation.
The line “he calls it the Final Order” in particular should be slower, and not necessarily have emphasis on any one word. It’s the one that needs to be able to match Poe onscreen.
YES.
Also, if the “his followers have been ___ something for years” could be told to slow down, or try to get several iterations so that with any luck I can lipsync it close enough to be able to have the line onscreen. The line as originally delivered emphasized “hiding” and did not emphasize “years,” so doing likewise may help.
If the rest of the lines can sound like what you just generated, and we can get that line to match lipsync, I think we’ll have this in the bag.
If possible, multiple line readings or variations would be nice for the “His fleet is a such and such from the Empire,” to play with and see what fits best.
Now I know how Lucas felt directing TPM from the editing room, splicing together takes.
Excellent work, JJB, and thanks for continuing it.