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Up to this point even, we’ve been less primed than in AOTC to view him as creepy, and I think that shot is meant to show us that he sees through her disingenuous “makes me feel uncomfortable.” As delivered in the context of Anakin’s tirade in that scene, Padme’s line reads as fully earnest. But here I hope it reads closer to its intent as a deflection of her feelings for him.

I’ll keep this in mind and refer to it here in the event that there’s yet another update, but I still intend for what’s out now to be final. I know better than to say “never,” but I’d very much like to get to a point of these prequel edits being finalized or laying fallow.

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It made for an abrupt ending to a short scene to remove it.

I’ll bear it in mind, but I don’t see cracking AOTC open again anytime soon.

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It is a perfect way to button up the continuity, explaining why Vader is not hot on the trail pursuing Kenobi.

I don’t imagine anything we did to Ascendant interfering too badly, unless they were to throw in a line explaining the potential continued absence of Adam Driver. Or show Leia’s saber in a flashback.

And if the crawl is good, I won’t rewrite it! I didn’t originally for TLJ, until we decided it would be nice to massage in a bit of exposition about the galactic politics going on out there after TFA destroyed Buenos Aries. I do like a good crawl, though, and it just depends, but I’m not petty. (Am I?)

BedeHistory731 said:

I’d say to just go back to the 1977 version of the droid discovery scene. It works better pacing-wise and mostly preserving the 1977 pacing is an admirable goal. HAL9000 already did that in his edit (which included removing one of the CGI dewbacks) and it looked good.

JEDIT: Oops, I corrected you even though you were right! Nevermind.

And gotta echo everyone else in highlighting what a uniquely detailed job Adywan continues to do in presenting the best version of the imperfect sources he has available, even as a starting point for the million changes made on top of that. His is a prolonged labor of love. I mean… 2007 is not recent.

Needs work, but here’s at least a starting point.

The Republic has fallen. It its wake, the Empire has engulfed the far reaches of the galaxy in fear. Few oppose the unquestioned rule of the Emperor.

Brilliant scientist Galen Erso has gone into hiding, fearing his work will be turned against Imperial citizens. Rebel extremist Saw Guerrera has protected his family from their pursuers.

Director Orson Krennic has discovered the location of his former comrade, and is intent on reapplying him to the task of completing the Emperor’s ultimate weapon…

EDIT: or this one…

The Republic has fallen. It its wake, the Empire has engulfed the far reaches of the galaxy in fear. Few oppose the unquestioned rule of the Emperor.

Galen Erso, a brilliant scientist whose knowledge has made him a valuable asset, has gone into hiding to prevent his skills from being used for the Empire’s efforts.

Director Orson Krennic has discovered the location of his former comrade, and is intent on reapplying him to the task of completing the Emperor’s ultimate weapon…

Hey, Kathleen Kennedy just said that this film (and SW movies in general going forward) will have opening crawls.

So that’ll be one less thing to do. Even if we end up rewriting the crawl or simply insert “Episode X.”

This early thread already feels even less necessary!

Having a Force ghost as a major character other than gently, occasionally nudging things seems weird to me. Spirits of the dead in stories usually are more inspiration than active agents, right?

But even though I’ve not been shy about my disappointment with TROS, or maybe because of that, I’ll be excited to see where things go. I wouldn’t say I’m excited yet, but I’m sure I will be. It’s Star Wars Episode X, in all but name, don’t you wanna see what happens next? You worried it’ll sully the ST’s good name or something? (Why not do it, in other words.)

Just saying, that’s what my approach would render as a continuing main story, albeit likely way more of them than there’ll be films that do so.

Dark Empire’s a comic, so I didn’t consider it. Also… Dark Empire is full of silly ideas that I don’t like and don’t gel with what’s around it. (Like TROS!)

My point is that while I generally haven’t liked other projects giving “Episode _” to things like Rogue One, I feel differently about this movie and presumably others to come based on my suspicion that the reason LFL aren’t has to do with marketing or branding concerns rather than my own nerdy perspective on it. Marketing-wise, maybe it’d be embarrassing to put something out called “Star Wars - Episode XVII,” but as a nerd I’d have no problem with it if the story simply goes that far.

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/daisy-ridley-rey-star-wars-new-movie-1235572603/

Recent unexpected announcement of a new film set fifteen years after the close of The Rise of Skywalker and the ‘Sequel Trilogy,’ featuring Daisy Ridley reprising her role as the heir to the Jedi and the Skywalker mantle.

From the article:
“Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy announced at Star Wars Celebration in London on Friday. Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy (“Ms. Marvel”) will direct from a script by Steven Knight (“Peaky Blinders”). The film follows the events of “Rise of Skywalker,” and will focus on Rey as she builds a new Jedi Order.”

December 15, 2026.

Here’s what we end up with applying my logic for bestowing ‘Episode’ titles onto things, from the ol’ Legends/EU. Only include things that substantively forward the Skywalker story, and only things which at the time of their release are chronologically later than the latest “Episode.”

Thrawn Trilogy
Jedi Academy Trilogy
The Crystal Star
Corellian Trilogy
Thrawn Duology
New Jedi Order series
Dark Nest Trilogy
Legacy of the Force series
Fate of the Jedi series
Crucible

So, who knows? Maybe we’ll be at this for a while, despite TROS nominally being the end of the saga. But for now, I’ll enjoy looking forward and speculating about the movie itself, and let this thread lay fallow for the most part.

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The best one is Ascendant.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Rise-of-Skywalker-Ascendant-Released/id/71835

In a world where the ‘Episode 9’ that was made ended up being a net negative overall, I wouldn’t rule it out. But I imagine treating the new film as Episode 10 as yet another new beginning several years later. And I’m less bothered about whether it’ll fit into a trilogy by the end of it.

Really hard to say without much clue what it’s gonna be about. Maybe the film’s actual title will do, with ‘Episode X’ added.

Lol, it was either that or “Necromancy of the Sith” that I closed the TROS commentary with.

I’d suggest relegating this thread to fan edit ideas, or other aspects of this as a project. Otherwise it’s gonna be a long, overwhelming ride now to then.

But I agree with you. Hopefully they don’t just say, “Oh, he died on a mission or something.”

I see the logic like this. Take it for granted that they’ll never end up releasing anything titled “Episode 10” ever.

If they’d never made 7, 8, and 9, and all the Legends/EU novels were films instead, you could consider the Thrawn trilogy to be 7, 8, and 9. Anything that substantively advances the Skywalker story at the time of its release (it is set further ahead than anything else already reckoned as an “Episode”), would be considered the next “Episode.”

By this logic, the movies would have been:

Episode 7: Heir to the Empire
Episode 8: Dark Force Rising
Episode 9: The Last Command
Episode 10: Jedi Search
Episode 11: Dark Apprentice
Episode 12: Champions of the Force

Etcetera. But Truce at Bakura, or Courtship of Princess Leia? No dice, as at their release they were set prior to where we’d gotten up to.

Presumably they won’t make nearly as many movies about the Skywalkers in this way as they published novels.

Even if there aren’t, and I’m sure there’ll be more than just this movie that takes place afterward which substantively deals with the outflowing of the Skywalker saga (which now includes Rey) in the future, Episode X seems logical to stick on this one from what we know so far.

It’d certainly be cool to eventually have a 10, 11, and 12. But we’d need films that are very much integral to the Skywalker thread or line, which Rey now intrinsically is. A Poe movie wouldn’t cut it, but one which largely only features Rey as a returning presence would seem to.

General film discussion thread, for non-fan-edit-related discussion: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Rey-Skywalker-Upcoming-live-action-motion-picture-general-discussion-thread/id/103921/page/1#1532655

With the recent unexpected announcement of a film featuring Rey Skywalker set fifteen years after The Rise of Skywalker which will focus on her efforts to rebuild the Jedi Order, I feel warranted in creating this project thread. I’m being a little snarky in doing so, but even though we know extremely little about this film I already have a central idea.

This movie appears to be suited for a title prefix of “Episode 10” in substance. It’s a major motion picture about what happens to the chief character of the prior trilogy. From a marketing perspective, LFL likely does not want to remain beholden to these episode numbers. But from an old-school nerd perspective, giving it this title would seem appropriate.

So one thing I would hope to do is add a proper opening and title crawl to consider it an Episode X, as well as working in any trappings of the main saga films that could be missing, such as potentially needing to add some traditional Williams-esque score or optical wipe transitions. I would also plan to release a version that makes whatever changes are made, but which does not wrap the film in the ‘Episode X’ title. (If this film doesn’t have a Wilhelm scream, by God we’ll add one.)

Part of the reason I am making this thread is to selfishly claim a spot in hopefully managing another collaborative project. Or at worst, foment productive discussion toward such a project even if someone else helms it by that point in the indeterminate, you-never-know-what-life-will-throw-at-you future.

SKYWALKER LIVES

StarkillerAG said:

I, for one, am pretty excited for the Rey movie, if for no other reason than the potential to edit out all the TROS references and retitle it “Star Wars Episode IX”. 😉