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#1142052
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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I’m gone from this forum until I see TLJ tomorrow morning, and perhaps not immediately after since I have a cramped day after that point.
(I’m glad a mod already censored some of your posts, guys.)
Anyway, the added Snoke scene reestablishes that they’re about to fire on the Resistance as in the original and I thought it was a huge boost to V2, removing the ‘petty revenge’ aspect and preserving the original film a little bit moreso. I can’t imagine something in TLJ that would retroactively make this movie not need to have that established. (Maybe the crawl mentions that they know the Resistance base’s location or something, but that doesn’t get at the core reason for the scene: they now need to take out SKB for the same reason as in the theatrical, which for my money is a huge help to the flow and plot of this version.)

See you in a day or two, but talk amongst yourselves. But let’s not be too rash about that scene; think carefully about all that it is for.

EDIT: Also, remember that no matter what, SKB explodes into a star. Having it explicitly being made ready to fire again very soon definitively answers the question about how it works: one sun, multiple targets. The Snoke scene is an elegant solution to all of these concerns, within TFA itself, especially compared to the theatrical. If TLJ states they found the Resistance base, that’s only about 20% of the Snoke scene’s benefit. Even then, it doesn’t hurt to let this edit give us the same information as the theatrical.

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#1141400
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Cool, I’m glad to hear this is being well received. I’m sure the time factor is important as well, giving it a rest before revisiting the film again. But, it’s a very elegant, simple change that really helps.

When I saw TFA a handful of times in theater, I would enjoy it very much up until the first Snoke scene. Then, I cringed at the Starkiller stuff getting started, but then we’d jump back to the Luke map plot. That went on until Hux blew up the Republic, which just felt off to me from the first viewing. Then it’s back to the Luke map plot again.

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#1141138
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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^ And as I believe has been requested already, bringing the music down very slightly around Han’s line, “Where’d you get that,” and Snoke’s, “Prepare the weapon” would be helpful, too.

In other news, Lord_Phillock, the guy behind the tremendous LOTR audio soundscape project, will be submitting options for the “Weapon fully recharged” line.

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#1140942
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>NON SPOILER</em></strong> * THREAD
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oojason said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Careful Jason. Popcorn might be dangerous. Could make you thirsty and need a Coke which, over the course of 2h 31m, could send you running for the Jon.

So, a coke thirst… and then the popcorn. Nice one, ta 😃

Use the empty large Coke cup to solve your bladder problem. Easy peasy.

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#1140941
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>NON SPOILER</em></strong> * THREAD
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Got my ticket for 9:15 Friday morning. I’d like to drink some coffee (which is unusual for me) ahead of time, in order to build up a sense of stress and panic. But I won’t have any companions with me to save my seat when I try to visit the bathroom during trailers. Maybe I’ll refrain from liquid intake altogether that morning, and bring a dark chocolate bar.

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#1140528
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Ooooo, nice. I like that.
Having them jump to hyperspace alleviates some of the unlikely coincidence factor, as Han’s “scanners” picked up on this and they moved to intercept, rather than seemingly hanging out nearby. In space.

I hope the rest of the sequel trilogy ties the Falcon’s and Rey’s presence on Jakku together, if indeed Kylo Ren has a prior connection to her. (“What girl?!”)

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#1140504
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Here’s my working list for what’s needed for V2.1. Let me know if I have missed anything. (I might not recall tiny things that I’ve already done and therefore removed from this list.)

For V2.1

THE LAST JEDI must have been released and seen by us - [for the purpose of vetting the edit’s continuity]

Kylo Ren’s helmet appearing and vanishing during the second Snoke scene - [Pie in the sky]

Leia and the Resistance deleted scene recolored - [from NeverarGreat; he needs it from Ridley first]

Leia commenting on not hearing from the Republic during Resistance briefing - [Omitted, sans unforeseen breakthrough]

Retimed time-altered shots during Starkiller firing and destruction sequences - [from Ridley; the former already implemented]

Redub tech guy’s line to Hux to say something like, “Weapon fully reprimed in 30 seconds” - [Not essential, depends on if a submission up to snuff turns up]

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#1140500
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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^ Ah, well at least now we know why though. Shouldn’t be a problem to recreate what you’ve done with that sequence.

Ridley, the 3PO shot looks great, as does the fixed slow shots from Kylo to the technicians. I wonder, though, if you could send me the 3PO leg shot without artificial black widescreen bars applied? It appears to be zoomed slightly, and to have had these bars put on. The problem is that they are slightly farther into the frame than the rest of my timeline. If you can send me the shot, zoomed though it may be, I can apply the widescreen matte on my own and have it match perfectly.
But, yeah… pretty awesome (and fast!) reverse alchemy. 😉

EDIT: The 3PO leg foley sounds much better now that I can move it up by a second or two. Now, it sounds like he’s walking off and then BB8 decides to give up and follow.

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#1140421
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Here’s that shot in context, zoomed and shifted left just enough to remove Threepio’s leg. Also boosted up the foley for him walking off.

https://vimeo.com/246707625
password: zoom

It’s not great. Ridley, if you would like to do something about the leg, please feel free, but I don’t wish to burden you with what seems like such a tiny thing.