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- TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Right.
Right.
I’m sure it could be, but I’m probably not going to go with it. (I will certainly play with the idea.)
I think I’ll try to add this to the Takodana vision: “Find me… It is unavoidable. It is your destiny.”
Or I might leave off the “Find me,” because he probably doesn’t know she’s been awakened or whatever yet. Seems like Snoke would have to learn this first, I’m not sure. But, that doesn’t mean the vision isn’t just a mishmash of past, present, and future.
That’s an awesome channel. Something like this would be perfect, just needs to be a little softer:
Thanks for the list. I’m not sure what that would gain, as Kylo gets stabbed as both parties notice Leia’s passing. This goes on to prompt Ben to remember/hallucinate Han.
Thanks for the feedback, and I’m glad you enjoyed it.
We’d hashed that question out several times. I think it is good to get the film back on track to where it was by that point so destroying SKB doesn’t feel unneeded. It also offers a more intuitive understanding of why a star still explodes out of it (and even though it makes no scientific sense, it even helps account for it being much smaller).
That scene was not part of the subpar V1, so I had a few painful viewings of it being that way and feeling off.
While you’re at it why not align the planet coming into frame with the musical sting as it was in 1977?
I agree. I think that scene bridges two scenes in the same location do hopefully it can be smooth (at least by the standard this film sets for itself).
I can’t remember, but does it cut from him tossing his saber to Rey tossing kindling onto the TIE?
I won’t be sure until sometime later, but I think that scene is pretty well tethered to the loss of Leia.
I sure hope so, too. It’s hard for me to consider moving the Han scene only because I don’t have a good map of the movie in my head or in front of me. But, I do recall really liking the fade of Chewie’s mourning into Ben’s scene.
I’m just going to picture you as Doc Brown from now on, if that’s okay with you.
Fine by me. I don’t particularly look or act like him, yet it does seem to fit.
This was my initial visceral reaction to seeing this movie, given my personal history:
Poe delivering a stunned “hmm” after Finn and Rose pitch their infiltration plan
New post since it’s a separate thought that I don’t want to get buried:
Anyone know how to generate a similar effect to that audio vacuum characteristic of the ForceTime starting in TLJ? Otherwise I might have to have scene audio crossfade quickly into clips from TLJ. That might work, but it would be better to do it fresh.
Bits and pieces, sure. TFA:R was driven by a single core idea, so there wasn’t a great deal of outside input. (I’m sure I’m just forgetting things about it at this point, to be fair.) TLJ was more trial and error, with poppasketti and I cross-pollinating quite a bit.
In both cases, I feel that the projects benefitted immensely from having input provided by members throughout. For the prequels, I was mostly working with an established textual history, sort of like the brothers Grimm or something.
As always, I just want these to exist and am super thankful for any and all help in making them. That being said, I’m about ready to see it all finished up, with ROTJ and TROS being the final pieces to lay into place.
Well, if it isn’t part of TROS it can be added pretty easily I’m sure. It’d be worth it to include it at the end as you described. I like the idea, assuming it works well once tried out!
That’s certainly interesting, but it probably would have read as very strange in the theater. But it would’ve gotten people talking, teasing essentially what the TROS teaser did, allowing Platonic people seeing these movies to get what we had the benefit of getting IRL.
I know one thing I’m going to be doing is playing around to see what scene transitions can seamlessly be extended by reversed footage or whatnot.
Not exactly; I think ideally it would be the recognizable Imperial March we get, underplayed and soft, with enough of the Emperor’s theme to notice and raise an eyebrow about.
I can’t remember, was that sound consistent whenever one of their bonds would start?
Even if not, that’s not a bad idea for that ending scene if nothing else.
But the mention of it characterizes it as nearly impossible.
I see no reason why Ben Solo shouldn’t appear as a ghost at the end. It can’t be that he didn’t earn enough karma or anything silly like that.
Awesome, Ridley!
From the TFA:R thread -
Is anyone aware of a suitable bit of music which combines the Emperor’s theme and the Imperial March? I wonder if replacing the musical cue which accompanies Vader’s helmet would be helpful to connect to TROS.
I don’t feel it should replace the Imperial March, but evoking both themes would be appropriate. Does anyone know of such a piece, or could perhaps blend them like that?
Anyone know any specific 3PO dialogue from the Clone Wars or something like that to replace “Whoever this Chewie person is, this is madness”?
Ideally something short and to the effect of “Perhaps I could help negotiate.”
Death for Ben feels right for a redemption arc. Just as it was right for Vader’s. The best reason I’d have for hoping he’d live is to differentiate it and feel like an ending that redeems even his grandfather’s failures by symbolically living a fulfilling life with his Padme.
Well, I wouldn’t say you cease to exist, you just become one with the Force. The Jedi view this as a good and natural thing, and don’t cling to their individual selves. Qui-Gon’s trick seems somewhat perverse maybe, since it appears to be a resistance to the natural flow of things.
I seem to recall some piece of Star Wars writing, maybe one of the prequel novelizations, that suggested the Force itself was speaking to someone using the persona or voice of a particular Jedi. And if Jedi become one with the Force after death, potato potato maybe.