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- #1313942
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- The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations
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I’m a denial one right now, I guess.
I’m a denial one right now, I guess.
Yeah, that makes sense. I was just making a dumb joke.
I heard the female kiss was done that way potentially to be able to be easily edited out for certain markets. I wonder if it really was. I don’t suppose anyone here saw it in China?
If it doesn’t have to impact the story at all, I guess you could replace the trooper’s comment about the Knights of Ren with something like, “I’m gay.”
I love Rey’s hair during her conversation with Kylo after they fight off the praetorian guards and the tug of war for the saber.
I don’t like that Snap came back for episode IX, since he wasn’t at the end of TLJ when it was supposedly the very last of the Resistance.
Right, just to slice off anything out of bounds. Understood loosely and subjectively, to the point of insanity. I think my edits of 7 and 8 tried to preserve the ability to take the movie’s universe seriously. Not realistically, but just keeping it consistent with how it was already established.
I’m not sure what could be done for 9, as the movie seems all up for blasting ahead with what it wants to do.
Ideally we could reign the movie in a little while retaining its drive, sort of like removing the ‘iron gag’ from TLJ. It’s a good joke, but doesn’t feel at home within the bounds of the story itself. I miss the sincerity and earnestness of the OT.
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Isn’t the reason Rey snoops around Kylo’s quarters in the first place because she’s looking for the dagger? If she never ends up needing it, that might not be good to remove.
I just saw it for the second time and liked it a lot more. I still think it’s the weakest of the ST, but it’s not nearly the unmitigated disaster I thought it was on Thursday. I won’t be any more bummed out moving from TLJ to this when I marathon the ST than I am going from ESB to ROTJ when I do the OT.
I sincerely hope my second viewing mirrors your experience.
So how did Leia know Rey was a Palpatine but Luke didn’t?
I would think it would be specific, not just that she sensed it. Otherwise, why wouldn’t Luke have? (At least once he reconnected himself to the Force.)
I think he did?? or am I misremembering?
In TROS Luke says Leia knew, and I inferred that he meant he did not. In TLJ Luke very clearly doesn’t know who Rey is or what is significant about her. He sees that she ‘went straight to the dark,’ but this only struck a nerve because of Ben.
I liked it but rolled my eyes a lot. Luke catching the lightsaber and raising his X-wing from the water were the worst. Rey being Palpatine’s granddaughter were the worst. The overexplaining of everything was the worst. Chewie finally getting his medal was the worst.
It’s like they took this seriously
http://www.dorkly.com/post/86874/if-the-last-jedi-haters-got-the-movie-they-wanted
Eerie.
^ I hadn’t realized the shot of Leia holding the medal was going to be right before she layed down. That should so have been kept! It ties in Han’s appearance as a memory into her efforts to call out to Ben.
Yeah, that’s something an edit should try to include.
Hmm. There was a moment on Ach-To in TROS where I half expected Luke to respond to Rey with, “Well, fortunately for you I am now omniscient, and can just tell you the information you need.”
I apologize for my bitter comments about the box office so far. I don’t want to be that guy. I’m honestly surprised to see widespread positivity about this one, and I don’t want to prevent that enjoyment from happening.
Like I said, I’m looking forward to seeing my own perception rebound upward over time, with the group’s help, hopefully.
So how did Leia know Rey was a Palpatine but Luke didn’t?
I would think it would be specific, not just that she sensed it. Otherwise, why wouldn’t Luke have? (At least once he reconnected himself to the Force.)
Look who’s got a case of the not-gays.
Also, I noticed you made an edit of Rogue One on your Google Drive. I thought you said you weren’t going to make edits of the spin-off films.
I barely did. I just took a few ideas from DigMod to make a very quick edit.
And I won’t make a thread for an edit of TROS until I’m sure I’ll be doing one. Don’t wait up, it might be a while.
lol, maybe I’d have done better with this:
I guess this is the one that finally got to me. Maybe I’ll come around, but I naturally would hope the market would reward creativity and in my admittedly petty, kneejerk attitude toward a faceless corporation I would rather have the forces of demand shape things for the better. It’s the only thing that would.
If I’m wrong and most people liked it, then my thoughts won’t matter anyway. I won’t apologize for disliking the movie, and the extent of my nastiness as an individual is to briefly shake my fist before retreating to stew on things and begin to try to understand the movie. I’m hardly an obnoxious YouTuber.
I can’t type much right now but I wanted to say that I don’t begrudge anyone their opinion on this, and am sincere in wanting to pick the brains of those who enjoyed it.
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So, Ash, it sounds like you’re essentially saying this is a “Good-bad” movie, one enjoyable for being balls-to-the-wall bad.
What say you to the idea that trying to hold 9 alongside 7 and 8 makes them make no sense? In other words, must one divest themselves of investment in this particular story to then be able to enjoy the ‘fuck it’ approach?
you managed to make Attack of the Clones watchable
Hardly. I mostly just synthesized the ideas of others and tried to present them well. It’s hard to imagine TROS in particular being subjected to much fan editing, being such an aggressive and breakneck movie. I will try to understand it, but I suspect it’s as vacuous as it seems. No one had the chance to put any thought into it, so the surface level is the entirety of it.
I’m really not sure about modifying any of the other films to suit IX right now, because the grief is still too near. I very well may just choose to ignore it.
TROS is actively antithetical to everything I’ve tried to do the past handful of years, and deeply incongruous with the good aspects of the last two films taken collectively. If I’m going to give it a fair treatment, I will need to take time to muster enough goodwill toward it, come to understand it somewhat thoroughly, and most importantly wait for at least some community ideas. Or I could retreat to a remote island and burn the fan edits.
Saw it again today. Liked it even more. Definitely my 3rd favorite behind ESB and ANH.
I want to understand you.
“Conference room. Now.”