Hal 9000

“Obi? Obi!! Mesa so smilin’ to be seein’ yousa!”

I need to process and wait before resolving this, but I expect I’ll decide not to try to make this movie into something is seems to have aggressively avoided being, and just help it as much as possible in its goals. I cannot meaningfully guide this film into a direction that I would have wanted it to go.

It’s just the farcical conclusion, the final stage of the dream before waking in which things no longer make any sense.

At the very least I hope to sort of enjoy this as a collaborative exercise.

Maybe a porg on the Falcon from TLJ grew up into Klaud.

Yeah, that was more or less my experience as well.

“Lando, you did it!! YOU DIDDIT!!!”

JEDIT: Hmm, maybe it ridicules the viewer in the opposite fashion TLJ did.

Maybe we can get a Disney+ series about Rose and R2-D2 on that base during most of the movie. A series of little vignettes.

I’m not going back to TLJ, and am not interested in substantial alterations to suit this movie.

I’m feeling cynical about this movie right now, and I’ll be trying to brew tea using cow urine. This movie might just be best enjoyed with a few drinks and laughter.

“They got Chewie! They got him!”

bahahahaha

I’ll leave Han tossing the guy to the rathtar.

Here’s the ‘no look’ shot with an added surprised ‘huh’. I’m not sure it works as well as I pictured. Maybe I’m missing something. I’m leaning toward leaving this shot out, as in V3.
https://youtu.be/VNai7UpPuao

OutboundFlight said:

SPOILERS TROS

Once Rey collapses after destroying Palpatine, she disappears. Kylo hobbles over to where she was and just stands there a moment. Then next scene.

From TFA:R thread:

Hal 9000 said:

And no, none of my edits will ever surpass 1080p BluRay spec for a host of reasons.

If anyone would ever like to attempt it, feel free to lay my lossless audio output and a proxy rip of the video streams into an editor and recreate the video in 4K or whatever. But I cannot, due to technical limitations and much of the source material being sourced from 1080p and 480p. The entire saga is being mastered at 1080p with 5.1 DTS and that’s as far as I can take things.

I won’t be able to add Kylo watching the sun get sucked up because, as has been said, the order of scenes precludes it. NeverAr was able to because he restructures the order of scenes in ways this edit doesn’t call for. Oh, well.

I used Ridley’s audio which adds a subtle bit of the Emperor’s theme as we see the Vader mask. Not too much but would have been something we’d have picked up on if it were there in 2015.

I added foley from the trailer for the X-wing destroying a TIE over Takodana which was oddly silent in the movie. It’s not a dramatic change, but eh.

I added a line from Palpatine over Rey’s vision. I worked it in during gaps in other random lines from the films. As Rey stands up in the rain we hear “It is unavoidable” and as Kylo turns to face her we hear “It is your destiny.” I think this would have been perfectly thematically consistent with TFA on its own, since Rey refuses the call shortly afterward.

I also added some porg sounds to Ach-To, very subtly. Almost splitting the difference between adding some and not.

Finn waking up after the TIE crash on Jakku more or less looks like NeverAr’s version, visually suggesting daybreak.

That’s all I’ve gotten to so far. How do we all feel about the idea of removing Han tossing a guy to the rathtar? (I’m so-so on it.) Same with the no-look shot.

I’ll grant that you don’t think such a thing is important if you let me maintain that it’s incongruous with what came before. It’s up to you whether it bothers you.

Movie breaks lore. EU releases antibodies. Scar tissue forms.

With this movie I think the patient had his head severed. It’s especially sad since he was two days away from retirement.

I know Star Wars has always been about the emotion, the themes, the archetypes, and world building has been secondary. However, this new story seems aggressively stupid when it comes to setting itself up.

Bad guy re-emerges via mysterious means. Already mysteriously has even bigger evil forces. Seemingly could
have done so before the time of Episode I.

This is supposed to be the final chapter. If it were episode 57 out of what would eventually be known to be 628, having bad guy show up out of nowhere in order to prompt an interesting character thing might work. Doctor Who does it well. But to pull this kind of thing in what is supposed to be episode 9/9 when everything about Palpatine save for his legacy already felt totally final, and not to give any sort of story credence to him or his infinite fleet while implying the First Order (which were comically overpowered in the previous movie) he set up by proxy was a pointless preamble he didn’t need is insulting to whatever sense of integrity the overall story had in terms of content.

Hey, maybe the content never mattered. But one thing the OT offered was a sense of sincerity about archetypes playing themselves out in stylized and weird ways. It invited you to take it earnestly. Here in TROS in particular, it is impossible to do so.

The best answer is what I’ve heard a clear consensus of: don’t think about these absolute basic problems (which only arise when reckoning based on prior Star Wars, aside from any outside sense of logic or expectation), just shove popcorn in your face and enjoy the jokes and flashing lights. It doesn’t need to make sense, and it’s good they didn’t try to do anything. Just pretend you’re at Disneyland riding Star Tours. And, hey, you were foolish to get excited by what was promised: a conclusion to the 9-part Skywalker story. All you should have wanted was animated window dressing that made you feel amused during the movie’s runtime.

I only object when stories like these are inconsistent with their own rules. I don’t care whether anything within is ‘realistic’ to our world.

I had a problem with SKB’s firing being visible the way it was since it flies in the face of a basic understanding of light within SW. The discrepancy is evident when one looks at the hilarious official explanation.

Here, jumping in and out of light speed would be expected to look like skipping a stone on a pond. It might be in a straight line, or perhaps alternating a number of directions, but this scene implies they are more or less teleporting. This is baffling when placed alongside any and everything else we’ve ever gotten about hyperspace.

By all means, and please understand me, I welcome space slugs, mysterious gravity sources, sucking up the sun gradually until it fades to night while surviving on the planet, blowing up from the Star you sucked up and turning into a planet-sized Star that looks the same, etc. However this fictional realm works, cool. But I don’t like when it breaks its own rules.

Snoke was CGI.

Add star destroyer destruction montage from end of TROS.

Since TFA and TLJ orbit one another so closely yet say different things, maybe giving them a deferent title might help. As if they were a two-part comic or novel duology.
No ‘Episode VII(I),’ just a unifying name.

Maybe ‘Shadows of the Empire’ or whatever parts I and II.

That works surprisingly well, and has some great work. I’m still not sure the idea is a slam dunk but you’ve pulled it off beautifully.

Of course, run with it.

You got it.

It just doesn’t make any sense.

I haven’t heard this come up, but if the Sith could muster “the largest fleet the galaxy has ever known” with full compliment seemingly from the resources of their own little planet, then why didn’t they do that pre-TPM? Why did the Sith need to carefully infiltrate the existing government and pull strings to secure an army? Couldn’t they have just taken over the galaxy by military force as TLJ implies the First Order was in the process of doing before Palpatine appeared and declared the First Order basically pointless?

I wonder what NeverAr’s bleached sand aesthetic would look like applied to Pasaana.

Exactly. For bonus points we can remove the TIEs tracking then, because in TLJ it required a huge device onboard a capital ship to track them. But if we do see them jump, we can infer light speed skipping to just be… something that actually makes sense rather than teleporting randomly throughout the galaxy near exciting things. Maybe just jumping in a straight path quickly, like the term sounds like.

It’s hard for me to size up that idea at this point, so I probably won’t be able to comment until it hits BluRay. And when we see what deleted scenes we have to work with.