Hal 9000

OP updated with current list of ideas.

Some good ideas! I’ve clipped them for now and I’ll see how they shape up whenever it’s go-time. Much appreciated. I probably will keep Chewie bring given his medal though, since we see Leia holding it as she lays down, so it seems fitting in-universe to give it to him. I didn’t realize this on first viewing, so I hope to work in the close up shot of the medal from the trailer.

And yeah, Finn has so many moments that made me want to laugh. He’s hilarious! “Lando, you did it! You DIDDIT!!!”

“They got Chewie! …—they got ‘im!!”

Also, I seem to recall Lando hooping or laughing while he flew to go save Finn. Didn’t really seem like a laughing occasion.

What do you mean by VNUMBER?

And while I appreciate ideas, I think the crawl as it is is pretty good, and I don’t see these alternates as improvements. Usually you want to say what you have to say in as few words as possible, and I tried to emulate the original crawl somewhat closely aside from what we had reason to chance (introducing SKB and tweaking for clarity).

I agree with DominicCobb on this. I thought that as I was watching TROS in the theater.

I think I prefer what we’ve got already. I’d also hate to lose the opening line “Luke Skywalker has vanished.”

EddyMerkxs said:

The sinister FIRST ORDER plots its return to power, hidden in the ashes of the fallen Empire.

Failing to convince the NEW REPUBLIC to investigate this emerging threat, General Leia Organa mobilizes a covert RESISTANCE while the First Order completes a devastating new weapon.

The first sentence doesn’t make sense. The FO is plotting the Empire’s return to power and this reordering of the sentence muddies that.

I guess ‘combat’ sounds more exciting than ‘investigate.’ I think that idea is enough to imply it is a fringe movement that the government isn’t properly concerned by.

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I was thinking Rey would be most appropriate.

FreezingTNT2 said:

Hal 9000 said:

OK, so you are suggesting altering the entire frame rather than just Han himself?

It seems like, the presence of Han aside, he really is in that place. A fly on the wall would still see Ben saying those things and making those motions.

Regardless, I don’t imagine such a thing being an improvement. I like it the way it is without some sort of effect applied.

jarbear said:

If you were to go that route, you could do something like Neverar did and have some kind of filter on the scene to have a “dream-like” feel to it. It does not have to be super strong, something subtle could be done maybe?

That’s what I get for trying to check in on this thread from my phone when I had a minute to spare during the day. Didn’t see it.

I think that final scene need to remain as is, dubious though it may be. I think it’d have been a more powerful moment if they’d stuck with Rey Nobody.

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OK, so you are suggesting altering the entire frame rather than just Han himself?

It seems like, the presence of Han aside, he really is in that place. A fly on the wall would still see Ben saying those things and making those motions.

Regardless, I don’t imagine such a thing being an improvement. I like it the way it is without some sort of effect applied.

I don’t have a problem with it at all. Force ghosts look bluish, glowy, and translucent. Han looks like how Ben remembers him. The scene plays out without some sort of distracting visual cue. I don’t know what one could even do that wouldn’t be inferred by some that he is a literal ghost.

Who knows how many of these changes I’ll end up doing; it probably won’t be drastically different. But if there’s enough interest I could probably re-host V2.1 as the purist edition.

Memory from two viewings, wookiepedia plot summary, and details people remind me of as we go.

Regardless, it is inevitable that there be several ideas generated by the community the day it would even be possible to begin editing. And my life is impossibly cramped for any time to break away to be able to sit at my computer with any real focus, so this project might be start-and-go, maximizing go-time by planning out what to try other times. (Lots of phone time, little computer time.)

It’ll happen, but I won’t have as much time as I’d like to get it done. Partly because of this, I’m hoping it’ll have a nice gestation period and maybe multiple workprints before releasing, to avoid having to do a version 2. And if it’s a good, somewhat conservative edit, others can always take it and run further.

Fair points, especially that last one; hadn’t considered that. I’ll have to consider that as I mock it up.

Eddy, do you have any specific ideas about the crawl? I like what we have now, but would hear you out.

Anakin Starkiller said:

I feel like this edit ought to have a title more like your other two for a nice match set.

Well, this title happened organically without thought of Eps 8 or 9 needing any work, and I’d hate to change it now. Would be confusing.

StarkillerAG said:

I agree with all the proposed changes, as long as you keep version 3.0 available. That way you have a purist version for people who prefer only minor changes, and a radical version for people who prefer radical changes.

Are there any specific changes you personally would want omitted from a single ‘desert island’ version?

What is that, part of that new ride?

I won’t, but I could easily retitle this edit “Revenge of the Sith” or “The Phantom Menace.”

It’s still available via torrents, but I don’t have the space to host multiple versions. 😦

Sounds like i’ll proceed with the list of changes outlined, but I’ll leave the chess table alone.

Makes sense; it swaps the faces but it doesn’t necessarily have a deep understanding.

Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope.

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You guys have been coming out of the woodwork lately. Enjoy.

Fabulist said:

Thank you for your continuous work and your amazing edits.

I would like to ask if there is a chance we will see the TLJ:L on 4K, or even other of your edits, now that 4K editions are coming on March from Disney?

From TFA:R thread:

Hal 9000 said:

And no, none of my edits will ever surpass 1080p BluRay spec for a host of reasons.

If anyone would ever like to attempt it, feel free to lay my lossless audio output and a proxy rip of the video streams into an editor and recreate the video in 4K or whatever. But I cannot, due to technical limitations and much of the source material being sourced from 1080p and 480p. The entire saga is being mastered at 1080p with 5.1 DTS and that’s as far as I can take things.