Hal 9000

Yep, and this post answers my question about it in the other thread. 😃

^ Are you saying that version stays timed to the original scene’s audio with the new visuals being worked in? Without a direct comparison, that version plays very nicely.

The first time I saw the movie after Palpatine explodes (2.0), I imagined a bedtime narrator saying, “And then huge rocks and granite flew into the people that were watching and chanting, because if you believe in yourself boulders will smash the heads of your enemies.” Weird to be paired with the yearning of the binary sunset piece.

Oh, that darned canon… Wouldn’t it be easier if it all just blew away?

Thank you! Audio shouldn’t be a problem.

Does anyone besides masked Kylo and Palptine refer to Rey as a scavenger? I wonder how feasible it may be to remove that, as she seemed to move past that in the eyes of all the characters.

Okay, fair enough. Noble idea and mockup but maybe not.

Yeah, I hear you about the framing being off-style for the movie. It’s hard to imagine whether it would have felt off if we saw it in the theater, and part of why I like it is that it doesn’t feel overly manufactured. The audio replacement alone is nice, though, if nothing else.

Skenera, that shot looks good! I don’t think his cape matters, as I would want to crib that shot between two establishing shots anyway and he could easily have discarded it. It’s the snow that’s probably gonna kill it. Ash maybe, but snow might be too weird to accept.

Cinefy said:

Hal 9000 said:

Cinefy said:

Heres the song I used for the rescore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvSVjbP3Iss

Nice. If I ever get the chance that’s a very good idea for a track go try to use for almost the whole scene.

In the extended podrace intro, the farting animal is extended to wonderful effect. It’s a hell of a fart there.

Cinefy said:

I felt like the scene where the Resistance finds out Palpatine is alive was rushed, I tried adding some slower paced music to try and add some breathing room and make it feel more sinister and serious.

(Rough Test)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vss4cLS1os

What is the source of the added music? I’d be okay with not even hearing the Emperor’s Theme at all here, if something Williams can fit in to enhance their shock and dismay.

That’s how I felt too, smpearch1981. I don’t mind the scene being where it is, so it’s not a pressing thing. Just seeing if it goes better being first.

I think having any establishing shots of Mustafar’s landscape be place right before the main chunk of the scene would help. He leaves the helmet, and we see an establishing shot or two before the slaughter begins.

If the TFA teaser shot gets used, and it sounds like it may not be as feasible as it did, it should be couched between two establishing shots.

Just noticed that, like TFA:R, TROS features a planet destruction directly following Kylo having a conversation with Han and resolving himself in a direction. Just this time it doesn’t make us feel anything.

The part of my theater experience when I could have been heard pleading, “Oh, for God’s sake!”

poppasketti said:

Here’s the color-corrected alt take for “Rey Skywalker” from idir_hh (the alt shot is at about 20 seconds in).

https://vimeo.com/418315742
pw: fanedit

idir sent the 1080p version, which is cropped heavily, so if anyone has the 4K please let me know! Otherwise we’ll have to fake it by adding grain.

Hell to the god damned YES

Octorox said:

At this point I’m just not for any solution that decouples the Vader helmet touching scene from Kylo forging his new helmet. I might be swayed if someone does a really great test clip though.

A very good thing to keep in mind. Well if it’s one or the other I think this wins out. In the theater I read Kylo as just… testing the Vader helmet to see if Palpy’s words were true.

lol, I really haven’t done any work or thinking you haven’t seen here. I’m a zombie at the helm.

I agree I’d certainly want to keep what Dominic has done for the vision. Perhaps he’ll like the idea of moving the helmet forward and adapt them. If it has to be one or the other, I’d rather use his vision.

I feel like Frodo being carried up the mountain by this point.

Yeah…

Aaark Bumpyyy Rrroose!

Hmmm…

Crawl

Pan down to establishing shot of TIEs flying over Mustafar

Cut to interior of Star Destroyer, as Vader’s helmet emerges and Kylo places his hand on it. Maybe Vader says something vaguely relevant or just the vision that was there originally. Kylo begins to walk off.

Color corrected TFA teaser shot of Kylo walking in the woods, crouching and lighting his saber.

A couple establishing shots of Mustafar, ideally with three TIEs somewhere in there

Main scene as Kylo slaughters people

The wayfinder says “Find me”

Yep, he asked and received.

Hey, in looking over the Anti-Cringe cut, I think it would be worth considering showing a brief ‘flash’ vision of Rey on the throne right as she backs away at the Rey Palpatine revelation in the hangar.

It’s a little off-norm for Star Wars but it might help that moment more explicitly tie into her existing fear of her inner darkness.

DominicCobb said:

The solution in my head that’d work is you color correct both to match each other, and then in the wide shot of Kylo post battle you add some lava flow.

Ideally as well what’d be added to the clean RO shots would be the three TIE fighters we see in the opening shot.

Yes.

Delpheas said:

So is the ending sequence gonna be:
Base celebration
Chess scene
Altered Tatooine epilogue with new music, alternate “Rey Skywalker”, and Falcon hyperspace take off?

Yeah!

And poppasketti, that’s slick. Thanks, you and Chase.

Kewlfish, those look perfectly fine to me on my phone, anyway. I’m mildly concerned showing lava may not cohere with the slightly ‘healed’ Mustafar we see, but I can accept it as different geography. Could the environment (or sky?) be tweaked to be a step or two closer in feel to the scene with Kylo slaughtering people? I don’t think it’s a big problem but it sticks out as something to drill into.

Right, I was thinking about whether it’d be better saved for the end scene though. We would fade out from the base celebration, then cut to hyperspace. Since we already have the shot of the Falcon approaching the ice base and don’t necessarily need to see them exit hyperspace.

For the ending I imagine the alternate take with a corrected sky, with the music Dominic suggested, and poppasketti’s Falcon takeoff.

Chess scene beforehand most likely.

Maybe Klaud can be stuck into the now first shot of Finn?

And I’m not sure if the hyperspace shot would be better placed at the ice setting or used at the end.

Sorry, can’t type easily right now. And I haven’t really made any progress lately. Been trying to get ROTJ V1 out the door and have next to no time these days.

It had to be that way in order to exist in the first place. And it was an ‘official release or bust’ strategy. It just couldn’t have been any other way, frustrating as that may be.

They’re like the people who bring air horns to graduations.