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- The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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That’s an interesting structure, I will look forward to seeing it in action. Hard to assess on paper.
That’s an interesting structure, I will look forward to seeing it in action. Hard to assess on paper.
Suspense, suspense!
Nice. Reminds me of an edit when Dooku flips so hard as he jumps off the balcony that his heads falls off.
Wonderful, poppasketti, thanks for doing that! The shot is very shaky but it looks perfectly fine to me, so whenever you have it to your satisfaction I’ll be happy to bake it in.
Good point about Kylo having two TIEs and presumably should have lost the Wayfinder in the first. I guess if he survived he saved it along with himself. But yeah. lol
Mustafar, Mustafar, Mustafar… we’re all split on it, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see eventual edits featuring all three main approaches. Currently I’m leaning toward keeping the scene more or less as is, with an establishing shot to buffer, and adding “Find me” to allow for a hint of what is to come and not require name dropping Palpatine in the crawl.
Obi-Wan’s eopie during the final scene of ROTS farts right as Obi-Wan turns to head back. During that shot, comp in the eopie from the extended podrace intro straining in order to let out a series of farts, which continue out of frame as Owen joins Beru.
It’s really a joyous thing as an oddity and doesn’t have to be part of the movie itself.
While I’m not 100% sure about the chess scene, I think removing both it and Mustafar from the opening chunk of the movie makes it interminably fast. Mustafar lets us see Kylo’s been roving and searching to find Palpatine and lets us get settled in and curious by the time he finds him. Leaving Mustafar alone might make moving the chess scene feel less frenetic.
Ash, I imagined the shot of the TIE exiting hyperspace near Exogol as the easiest place to open from a crawl pan. And based on discussion the last couple pages, if one were to remove Mustafar there would be some fruit in also removing showing him with the Wayfinder, in that we see Kylo’s when Rey does. (And it’s less of a sense that Luke reminded Rey of something the audience feels she was already aware of, burning things wantonly.)
Yeah, and my style is usually to be fairly conservative. This particular project could serve as a basis for anyone wanting to exceed its ambition.
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In watching through the first few scenes of the movie, skipping around to imitate our ideas, I think the opening feels very rushed removing Mustafar and the chess scene.
You can try it: skip to Kylo approaching Exogol, then skip the chess scene. Feels pretty breakneck. The Mustafar and travel scenes let us get into the movie for a minute before dumping Palpatine on us.
I really don’t mind Mustafar as is, so this isn’t an obvious answer. It might be best as it is, even without the meat of the scene, with or without a couple establishing shots. (Just leave it at the theatrical version so no one’s happy!) Leaving this alone could help losing the chess scene in the opening a bit more forgivable.
This finished movie just doesn’t give us much wiggle room.
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The whole gag is a good 15 seconds. The thing farts and howls about it. We need to get that into 4K and back into the movie. All theatrical otherwise.
In all seriousness, I miss my ooooold TPM edit sourced from DVD, where I could mix and match from all the extended podrace bits. Couldn’t really do that while working with the BluRay since it’s so different.
Agreed. It’s best to pursue each option earnestly. I’m sure they’ll all have takers, even if they all can’t be me!
Same as parts of ROTS were about Bush. But yeah, that’s have to attribute to the top level creators of TROS with a capacity for abstract thought. 😕
Oh my God.
I just had a terrible thought.
Palpatine in TROS is about Trump. Evil came back up from nowhere but don’t worry because “there are more of us.”
Hmm. If Mustafar is kept, I wouldn’t remove finding the Wayfinder.
I dunno, maybe it’s better to just say the hell with Mustafar.
I hadn’t considered when Rey learns that Kylo had a Wayfinder. I know Lando tells her “only two were made” in his RV, but I wanted Luke to slap her and say, “Hey be careful before you just burn things!”
Makes sense that she didn’t know he had one. Opening with Exogol would actually make that moment feel better.
Palpatine and/or the Wayfinder would need to be included in the crawl.
Oh my God, you guys, how much do you expect me to be able to read during the cracks in my day? lol
I could only skim the last THREE pages for the moment, but I guess I’m of three minds about Mustafar.
I really don’t mind the film as it is, as we get a sense of “Ah, he’s chasing a thing to get to a place but they aren’t stopping to tell us about it because we infer what we need to know.”
I am okay with adding other shots to the Mustafar scene because people feel that it would be a good idea, provided it comes across well and fits in.
Since I like Mustafar just fine, I’m reluctant to remove it completely, but there’s a solid point to doing that, since it’s been eviscerated of the meat that we know was originally there.
Poppasketti, would a pan UP from the crawl fit better? The camera would then continue to to go up to follow the TIE, rather than changing directions. I wonder if another second or two could pass before his TIE enters frame, too. But that’s some good work, per usual.
I know other things were brought up, too, but I only have a couple minutes. I don’t particularly care to rescore Han or Leia’s moments on the Death Star, personally. John Williams is the best part of TROS.
Here’s the clip of the lightspeed scene removal
Star Wars has all kinds of Deepfake potential. Once it progresses to be easier to apply, there’ll be lots of fun to be had. Not least is to mix and match Anakins all around. Shaw in the prequels, Hayden in ROTJ? Guinness in ROTS? Owen and Beru swapping between prequels and ANH?
Undo Palpatine’s monster face in ROTS?
Hmm, I’d be reluctant to cut the entire scene.
Would you PM me your new workprint? We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.
JEDIT: Once you get it sorted out, anyway. Just saw your recent post.
It would be against my religion to feature it in the movie, but I’d be curious and pleased to see a well done version of the idea.
I will as soon as I can. 😃
It’s canon history now.
So did I!