And it sounds like it’d be very doable to remove explicit mention of the underbelly cannons as being world killers, if Kijimi is to be spared. They’ll still be seen, but who knows what Cos has been up to over the years. The visual is silly but it makes sense: omg big guns.
No lightspeed conversation, smooth and less abrupt:
I also cut some of Poe repeating himself.
That’s good! Little is lost and it flows well. In that case, would Skenera or anyone else like to visually extend the end of the iceberg escape scene with the Falcon jumping to lightspeed but without TIEs?
I’m out of it for a little while and everyone gets delusions of grandeur!
I had no idea this edit had picked up so much steam! Looks like I have a lot to catch up on.
Yeah, this thread added 25 pages in the last week alone. It’s all I can do to just track everything! Good problem to have.
I have no love for the lightspeed skipping scene, and to me it’s more flippant than the SKB magical galactic death beam. I know I’m a geek weirdo and people shouldn’t care about this, but to me it’s sooo bad.
To me, seeing the TIEs follow the Falcon into hyperspace is enough to allow for a later lightspeed skipping reference to spark imagination about other things Poe had to do to shake the pursuers. Even seeing TIEs with technology last scene only on capital ships doesn’t feel right.
Ideally the mention of lightspeed skipping could be elegantly removed without losing the earlier or later portions of the scene. Ending the iceberg escape scene with the falcon entering hyperspace without TIEs would be ideal, save for effects or holes left later on.
Lol why do people keep honing in on that? I haven’t changed it and it’s like that in the original. 😛
There are so many great ideas on the thread that would contribute to many great edits that I would love to watch… do I personally like the Mustafar sequence… yeah. But I would be super interested in seeing edits where Kylo drops out of hyperspace and goes straight to Palpatine… that after-crawl pan that poppa did was pretty sweet and did feel like Star Wars.
Well put. Thanks to all; calls have to be made.
Accompanied by Also Sprach Zarathustra.
Lightspeed skipping because lightspeed is not random improbability-drive teleportation,
And the chess scene is (probably) being moved to the ending to imply Rey has friends accompanying her to Tatooine.
You could probably replace every mention of ‘Palpatine’ in TROS with ‘Sheev.’
Sigh
I… all these points make sense and are valid. I never had a problem with Mustafar personally at all, so for lack of anything to push me over the edge I’d like to keep the structure as it is. Nothing else feels totally right, at least based off our finished product source material. I do like getting a “Find me” at the end to lessen the necessity of spelling out Papa Sheev Cos “Frank” Palpatine in the crawl.
If there’s a good establishing shot that doesn’t hurt anything, fair enough. But removing Mustafar AND the chess leaves too little breathing room.
And hey, if this project turns out like TFA:R, TLJ:L, and others, it can be used as a launchpad for other projects to go in other directions. I’m more than okay with that.
No one will be totally happy with it. Not even me!
I plan to follow Dominic’s lead for the two visions, with the latter being part of the helmet forging scenes.
Yeah… I’ll probably stick to the original structure. It might be better to move this to the general ideas thread, since this project seems in need of having some channels closed.
Yeah, I don’t want to add another transport. If we can see it, shouldn’t they? And we’re moving the Chewie reveal to later, so there’s less of a reason to want to show it.
Just have her ship jostle as she’s taking off, maybe the wing Luke took off before TLJ sends her in a rough flight pattern before she stabilizes it. 😛
^^Oh, Movies Remastered, I was just kidding. I don’t know about that being discussed, I may as well have just said “HEY YOU GO TO HELL” as a nod to your comment about the cold shoulder you’ve gotten on Reddit.
But isn’t the Resistance disseminating intel they got in the first scene before the FO should have had it to begin with?
Restructuring the opening carries some inertia, I think, so I will prefer to err on the conservative side of things, while remaining open.
I’m trying to bring it up here as I got my ass handed to me on reddit but…
Did anyone debunk the fact that Ray destroys kylo ren’s whisper after she jumps over it but then 2 seconds later it’s back? Both Vader and kylo Ren had prototypes before I.e. the silencer, so why would he have an extra as it was a specifically modified Interceptor?
I’ve fixed it but wondering people’s thought?
Listen, man, don’t EVER bring that up here again. 😛
dgraham414 said:
Opening shot would be tie fighters going towards kylo’s ship just out in space (probably a reverse shot from TFA) with Kylo on the bridge staring into nothingness.Liked the idea so I made a quick test. It works really well with Poppa’s tie fighter’s flying above the forest, would be nice though to have a shot of Vader’s castle with the 3 fighters flying by to tie it all together.
https://vimeo.com/420388818
That’s pretty good! The TIEs provide the sort of POV we follow to get us down to the planet surface. I wish it could be Hux and Pryde on the destroyer, as it feels weird to follow the ties away from Kylo to… Kylo.
I know I can’t touch on everything that’s been said so far this morning right now, and I hope I don’t sound blunt! But I am leaning toward keeping Mustafar as it is, maybe with a shot to set it up if it feels right.
The restructure was interesting and has a lot going for it, but you’re right that this thing is a Gordian knot. And there’d have to be something in his helmet vision to bring him to being FIRED UP when we see him next.
Movies Remastered, you’re moving Mustafar to after the board room scene? How’s that work?
Yes, while I’m sympathetic to all the work I and others put in, I’ve had a lot of work left along dead ends and you have to be willing to kill your darlings.
And just as a reminder, this would be a very different conversation if we were still making the movie, and we are especially limited by this film when we are working from a completed product and considering what we can do that would still have felt totally legit were it projected in theaters for ourselves and general audiences in a parallel universe.
Hmm, probably not but I’ll try to keep that in mind in the event that I do revise things in the future. Thanks for the kind words, and I’m glad you enjoyed it overall. I guess I could’ve spot checked the audio overlay in the louder spots.
Lol sure, thanks. It’s no trouble but yeah.
That’s an interesting structure, I will look forward to seeing it in action. Hard to assess on paper.
Suspense, suspense!
Nice. Reminds me of an edit when Dooku flips so hard as he jumps off the balcony that his heads falls off.
Wonderful, poppasketti, thanks for doing that! The shot is very shaky but it looks perfectly fine to me, so whenever you have it to your satisfaction I’ll be happy to bake it in.
Good point about Kylo having two TIEs and presumably should have lost the Wayfinder in the first. I guess if he survived he saved it along with himself. But yeah. lol
Mustafar, Mustafar, Mustafar… we’re all split on it, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see eventual edits featuring all three main approaches. Currently I’m leaning toward keeping the scene more or less as is, with an establishing shot to buffer, and adding “Find me” to allow for a hint of what is to come and not require name dropping Palpatine in the crawl.