Hal 9000

Or Vader never had it because Palpatine was holding out on him.

Wow, that’s incredible. I’ll sit tight, then! Makes me a little nervous since I like the Mustafar opening and grabbing Vader’s Wayfinder, but that’s an interesting idea…

If that can be executed effectively, I agree it’d be an improvement. It could also imply the dagger is what opened the door adjacent to the throne room, rather than… Rey’s Palpatine DNA or something. (I doubt there’d be any real way to make that moment any clearer with footage of the dagger.) That’d be good anyway, but especially welcome in a Rey Nobody edit.

Unrelated: Since we have clips of both traditional blue and yellow lightning destroying the transport thought to contain Chewie, it’s possible to use either for each of Rey Palpatine and Rey Nobody variations of this project. Yellow adds some distance from Palpatine, and blue is just what we expect Force lightning to look like when anyone uses it (only seen by Palpatine and Dooku). In Legends canon (for neeeeeerds!) there is a precedent for light side Force lightning that is yellow. In the context of a Rey Nobody TROS edit, yellow can represent the darkness she fears within herself, and speak to a sense of balance when she uses a yellow blade she constructs. (A Rey Nobody version also wouldn’t have that little crackle between Palpatine’s hands as he speaks with Kylo, which is there to tie into Rey’s lightning moment.)

So, in a Rey Palpatine edit, shall the yellow lightning stay or be replaced with the normal blue? I think the hand crackle would stay in this version, as it has a purpose. Though it could be removed without causing an issue, perhaps not making it more obvious than it already is.

I don’t know the scene well enough, but there’s that moment when Rey resolves to not even hate Palpatine.

It’s something I’m going to have to give some real thought. Would it require jettisoning Rey about to do a ritual sacrifice of Palpatine?

That’s the only thing at the moment keeping me from rendering out a completely coherent, albeit incomplete, version of the movie. Since Ewoks are seen earlier in the movie now.

Where’d you pull the additional establishing shot of Ach-To from?

All right, here’s what stands out as far as big changes that remain unrealized. There’s plenty else to tend to but these are the more important things:

• Mustafar. Does anyone have the high quality clips to use! LILLIAN posted a clip recently in her (?) thread, which used these. They are an arial shot of a patterned lava flow, lava eruption behind trees, and video game footage of troop carriers landing with troopers dispersing. And, if anyone wants to really knock it out of the park, add illuminated specks between the Destroyer and the planet in the film’s opening shot and troop carriers in some way to the arial shot of the lava flow (perhaps passing by camera closely so as not even to need a model).

• Dominic’s version of the vision during Rey’s remote training, once he finalizes it

• The squeaky wheel extension needs FX work, but is hardly essential

• Luke’s haircut, if jonh gets it to where he is happy with it

• Relacing Endor with Coruscant in the celebration montage (and Jakku with Kijimi, in a perfect world)

• Final scene: adding Ben’s ghost from jonh, possibly add light double rainbow to homestead, and alternate take of Rey’s line from poppasketti

Is the frame in part two right after the ghosts fade away? If so I won’t downloa again because I just caught it and fixed it.

And for part one, is only Obi-Wan’s first close-up shot different? I think I like the former one better so will stick with that.

Yes, I agree. I hopefully will be able to get the audio into better shape whenever I circle back around to it.

Things fall apart… and are rebuilt, which is boring to watch, so they fall apart.

Rodney-2187 said:

EXACTLY

Yeah, and it works better to remove the now redundant buildup with Pryde and Hux talking about a ‘valuable prisoner.’

JakeRyan17 said:

I’ve only been editing the sequel trilogies for now, but TFA stayed there same run time (after cutting and adding), TLJ got longer (tiny cuts, lots of adds), and Rise is getting a lot chopped out… but not nearly everything that made me roll my eyes.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Sequel-Trilogy-Special-Edition-StormPilot/id/75425

Very interesting! And coming out of the woodwork all finished.

I wonder, since I’ve had some trouble with it, if you’d mind posting a clip of removing the lightspeed skipping.

I could, since I edited it together that way already. I haven’t watched that chunk of the movie overall, but I imagine it working well.

Leia dies, Kylo and Rey react and disperse.
Heroes return to base, Chewie loses it.
Kylo confronts his father’s mindworm which was tied to Leia.
Palpatine says Leia has thrown a monkey wrench into things and orders Pryde to come to him.
Poe prays to Leia.

Maybe Luke’s formal instruction wasn’t as much longer than Rey’s as we thought.

I don’t think it’s necessary to remove Hux sardonically asking if he should destroy the city. A Star Destroyer is a powerful vessel, and it’s not like they were in a Final Order Destroyer at that point anyway.

And about the line “every one we knock out is a world saved.” First, it’d be very awkward to try to remove since the main SW theme is blaring. But I think it still makes sense, not as a numerical ratio. Those Destroyers with their big guns are gonna go fuck up “all free worlds.” Taking them down in total saves the totality of all worlds. So, to put it poetically, each one destroyed could be said to save a world.

Yes, that’s a juicy idea.

And I hope it can serve to be built upon further, once it gets to exist in part by virtue of its conservat…ivity.

https://youtu.be/eYDI8b5Nn5s

Cant’t look at your eyes without sparking some…

DominicCobb said:

What is the reasoning for removing the horses?

I guess feeling that they’re unnecessary and the ground attack feels more straightforward without them.

I don’t plan to remove them in my project, though.

Hmm, it would especially help a Rey Nobody edit to imply that the dagger is what opens the doorway on the DSII.

Yeah, those horses really only are there super briefly. It’s just a tiny bit weird to have a janky dolly shot of the tower without them, but it wouldn’t really occur to someone that it is out of place. I wonder if it could be stabilized?

Hmmm… mmmmaaaaaybe. As usual, it’s a better idea, at least, but uncertain whether it’d be seamless to actually pull off here.

The dagger is the reason Rey goes off on her own to Kylo’s quarters, so I feel that any attempt to remove its use would feel more awkward than accepting a dumb moment.

It’s dumb, but it’s not one of the big problems I had with the movie when I left.