Hal 9000

Here’s a test of the ending, with pretty much everything except for a ghost for Ben.

https://vimeo.com/424989868

Unfortunately the music used comes in right on the heel of a bombastic conclusion to the Resistance theme, so it’s a shame it can’t be a bit more teasing and gradual as it comes in like the original scene’s music.

It’s still synced to the original, so it’s be easy to ditch in favor of the original.

That’s an interesting idea to actually have Kylo retrieve the Wayfinder from the Jedi Temple in a fan edit.

I will try to be honest with myself and you all in deciding whether to use it or Mustafar. I like the sound of Mustafar better, so I don’t relish the thought of turning down something awesome…

But, again, if not mine, other edits will certainly be better off for it.

The time is not yet right, but of course!

“My” take came from DominicCobb, FWIW.

Fantastic!

Thanks, I like the change. It helps add just a moment to breathe.

I have to step into a Platonic realm just to view the new movies? That’s just crazy if you ask me. It’s a trope of an abused animal.

Hard to say. I don’t think it’s at all necessary, but if the final product is good and I can pick and choose what to include, culling two or three lines to give them could be fun.

Here’s that audio if you’d like to try it. I’ve included my final mix of the Kylo scene, the original Kylo scene, and the Rey scene the dialogue comes from to begin with.

The two Kylo scene audios are both synced to begin at the same point, though they differ once the change occurs and end at different arbitrary points.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GOTD7vJB8OvCGaa1X1uXVUesuf6KFfPW

Like with anything, I’d gratefully consider anything, using it only if I really do feel it’s a better way to go.

Usually I try to have audio taken from elsewhere sound as close as possible to what it is there to replace. Adding an effect only to added dialogue is a bold move.

Doesn’t matter if it feels like it was there all along, but the savvy audience member may mistake your effort as a failure to tame audio culled from elsewhere.

This project is great. Not gonna upset LOE for me personally, because I’ve got a lot invested in it, but truly a worthy continuation.

axlanian said:

RogueLeader said:

Wow, those work better than I expected!

It would be cool if we added some voice effect to the line, “We will be one” as if we’re hearing voices of the past Sith collectively speaking through him. Same for when he says, “as all the Sith live in me.” And maybe that could continue once he drains their energy and reforms.

✋ I’d be happy to volunteer for experimenting with this idea

If it can be a dead ringer for the effect in ROTS, that’d be an interesting way to telegraph some significance to it. I guess in important moments, and/or by choice, the collective Sith consciousness can have an augmented voice.

One unfortunate real-world concern I have as someone who has lots of experience trying to have something correspond seamlessly to the source audio, it is slightly risky to add that effect only to dialogue that wasn’t there originally, as you’d be doing about the opposite of what would normally be desirable. Maybe that’s not the important thing to be mindful of, but I can’t help it.

Let me post the stems of the audio as I’ve got it, and the stems of the two scenes as they were. (I had to add the center channel to the left and right channels for the Kylo scene because the two scenes were formatted differently. For most of that scene, Palpatine’s voice is clearer and louder in the left and right channels than the center. (Probably won’t be until tomorrow.)

Well, as it is in my timeline it retains the music originally there, but adds a little motif that happens to fit perfectly; I’m reluctant to experiment! But if it can be done and it’s superior, then that’s even better. But comparing it to what you just posted, I honestly think sticking to the original is a bit stronger or less risky.

There wasn’t music in that portion originally but since the dialogue had to be moved from later, it fortunately has a musical cue attatched that starts and ends in just the right places. It’s the same cue we hear as Kylo picks up the Wayfinder on Mustafar.

Hmmm, I’d be skeptical of that. Might be too weird.

lol

I think this works pretty well! Good idea, RogueLeader!

https://vimeo.com/424606339

https://vimeo.com/424606387

I don’t see why 3PO’s comment would need to go. Anakin mentioned going to Mustafar, then 3PO clarifies that he returned to the Jedi Temple.

szopman said:

Hal 9000 said:

Wow, that’s incredible. I’ll sit tight, then! Makes me a little nervous since I like the Mustafar opening and grabbing Vader’s Wayfinder, but that’s an interesting idea…

Well, the Mustafar opening is Just an awesome scene, but both possibilities look great. Maybe you would consider realeasing versions of the film with two different openings?

Or maybe the scene on the Mustafar could be somehow reused as a flashback or something? I know its not crucial to the film, but its Just Such a badass scene 😉

Well, I’m planning two: Rey Palpatine and Rey Nobody. Any more and it’d be out of control. I’ll have to decide whether to go with Coruscant if that’s an option or a spruced up Mustafar. I’m curious about the former but warmed up to the latter already.

And whichever goes unused by me will surely be used by others! I’m totally cool with using this whole project, tweaking it to someone’s liking, and distributing as another option.

idir_hh said:

Would love to record myself saying “This is the Mandalorian fleet, reporting in”
And maybe a “for Mandalore!”

Fixed that for you. 😉

I like keeping the first scene with Kylo and Papa Palpatine to:

“You’ll die first.”

“I’ve died before. Kill me, and my spirit will pass into you.”

It registers as a threat, and makes sense why Kylo would back down somewhat and demand he answer his previous comment about giving him “so much more.”

Then, when Rey comforts him he says “You want to kill me. That is what I want… You will be Empress. We will be one.”

Also… I think RogueLeader’s idea about moving the idea of Palpatine’s spirit moving into others into his first scene would work well.

Even though the mechanics aren’t made explicit to Rey during the climax, we the audience know them, so it might be forgivable. It is hinted at and she seems to have had plenty of psychic episodes throughout the movie.

Yeah, my only reason for asking this is that his introduction is gone, so those couple shots and one other short one that can be edited out are all that remain and he’s never introduced.

Here are three brief shots of Klaud that would ideally see him removed since his introduction is gone as a byproduct of moving the chess scene. If anyone wants to tackle this, it’ll help it feel more legit. It’s okay as is, just that there’s this thing back in the doorway.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1u0x-OMfTBZ0dpnVflTzKSRjsxOp9uU6l