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#1345605
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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idir_hh said:

I think a combination of shot 2, Chase Adams’ establishing shots https://youtu.be/bVM5aOUbRdk and Vader’s Castle would work perfectly.

Yeah, that’s very nice. I still think it seems a little weird to see him on the bridge for a second. If the helmet scene were moved there, it’d be perfect. As long as the consensus ends up saying that’s the way to go rather than leaving it during or after Rey trains.

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#1345589
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Info: TROS Edit Opinions Poll - RESULTS & ANALYSIS
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Leia holding Padme’s necklace would have been good if Ben spoke with Anakin rather than Han. I imagine, in the world where Padmé went to live on Alderaan, it was still buried with her and/or destroyed along with Alderaan.

Or, if you want the time stream to correct itself around this distortion more thoroughly, she was taken back to Naboo for burial along with the necklace at some point.

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#1345496
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Info: TROS Edit Opinions Poll - RESULTS & ANALYSIS
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I don’t know why I’m doing this, but to be fair he was talking about FO personnel. I wouldn’t raise this point if he had said this about the Resistance or characters in general. The Empire that we see and get to know within the OT films comprises white men, a rather Nazi-esque group in their overall style.

The FO seems to have… progressed to a much more diverse, multiethnic and gender group. I guess anyone has a chance to be evil!

In the EU, new and old, efforts have been made to make the Empire (and to be fair the rebels too somewhat, especially pre-ROTJ, seen prominently in Rogue One as compared to ANH) more diverse, so that in universe when taking all media into account it’s pretty uniform throughout. As opposed to, say, seeing an office with all men working at desks and all female secretarial staff and using that to help you determine when it was filmed and/or set. Norms of society shift over time.

Now… I’m not defending what I perceive his point to be per se, but I kind of like the OT Empire being pretty well monolithic and implicitly racist, mostly out of a desire to rationalize the lore of the movies without cheating by talking about other things off camera that change things, but the FO is a different beast forged in a different generation and having different needs in order to amass power.

JEDIT: To be extra clear, my value criterion here is verisimilitude of the movies as they are, extrapolating from them rather than pushing other things onto them. The same way some of us may have thought up in-universe explanations for filmmaking issues like the ‘force field’ under the landspeeder or a convoluted reason for 3PO to waver on recognizing Leia in ANH.

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#1345491
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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^ Are you saying that version stays timed to the original scene’s audio with the new visuals being worked in? Without a direct comparison, that version plays very nicely.

The first time I saw the movie after Palpatine explodes (2.0), I imagined a bedtime narrator saying, “And then huge rocks and granite flew into the people that were watching and chanting, because if you believe in yourself boulders will smash the heads of your enemies.” Weird to be paired with the yearning of the binary sunset piece.

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#1345347
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Yeah, I hear you about the framing being off-style for the movie. It’s hard to imagine whether it would have felt off if we saw it in the theater, and part of why I like it is that it doesn’t feel overly manufactured. The audio replacement alone is nice, though, if nothing else.

Skenera, that shot looks good! I don’t think his cape matters, as I would want to crib that shot between two establishing shots anyway and he could easily have discarded it. It’s the snow that’s probably gonna kill it. Ash maybe, but snow might be too weird to accept.

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#1345191
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Cinefy said:

I felt like the scene where the Resistance finds out Palpatine is alive was rushed, I tried adding some slower paced music to try and add some breathing room and make it feel more sinister and serious.

(Rough Test)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vss4cLS1os

What is the source of the added music? I’d be okay with not even hearing the Emperor’s Theme at all here, if something Williams can fit in to enhance their shock and dismay.

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#1345190
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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That’s how I felt too, smpearch1981. I don’t mind the scene being where it is, so it’s not a pressing thing. Just seeing if it goes better being first.

I think having any establishing shots of Mustafar’s landscape be place right before the main chunk of the scene would help. He leaves the helmet, and we see an establishing shot or two before the slaughter begins.

If the TFA teaser shot gets used, and it sounds like it may not be as feasible as it did, it should be couched between two establishing shots.

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#1345123
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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poppasketti said:

Here’s the color-corrected alt take for “Rey Skywalker” from idir_hh (the alt shot is at about 20 seconds in).

https://vimeo.com/418315742
pw: fanedit

idir sent the 1080p version, which is cropped heavily, so if anyone has the 4K please let me know! Otherwise we’ll have to fake it by adding grain.

Hell to the god damned YES

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#1345116
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Octorox said:

At this point I’m just not for any solution that decouples the Vader helmet touching scene from Kylo forging his new helmet. I might be swayed if someone does a really great test clip though.

A very good thing to keep in mind. Well if it’s one or the other I think this wins out. In the theater I read Kylo as just… testing the Vader helmet to see if Palpy’s words were true.

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#1345100
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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lol, I really haven’t done any work or thinking you haven’t seen here. I’m a zombie at the helm.

I agree I’d certainly want to keep what Dominic has done for the vision. Perhaps he’ll like the idea of moving the helmet forward and adapt them. If it has to be one or the other, I’d rather use his vision.

I feel like Frodo being carried up the mountain by this point.

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#1345084
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hmmm…

Crawl

Pan down to establishing shot of TIEs flying over Mustafar

Cut to interior of Star Destroyer, as Vader’s helmet emerges and Kylo places his hand on it. Maybe Vader says something vaguely relevant or just the vision that was there originally. Kylo begins to walk off.

Color corrected TFA teaser shot of Kylo walking in the woods, crouching and lighting his saber.

A couple establishing shots of Mustafar, ideally with three TIEs somewhere in there

Main scene as Kylo slaughters people

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