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I would prefer to keep the Rey-Ben saber pass not to have the cross fade because it telegraphs something it might telegraph too strongly what’s going on. I think the moment invites the viewer to be a little unsure if they’re communicating at first.
I could imagine having two or three of these as Leia reaches out to Ben, though. Nice idea!
Hmm, or maybe as Leia reaches out to him before losing the will to live…
Thanks for continuing to give this attention and care. I like how you have Luke lowering his arm while vanishing. It reminds me of how in the Trek movies they made a point to have people move while the transporter effect is going on, so it feels more convincing and because they could at that point.
I’m happy to use what you’re happy with. The close up of Kenobi seems weird to me, it feels different than the other three. Any reason for that change over the initial version you did?
Nice! What was the source of the music? Did you slow down the speed yourself or was it like that?
It’s a nice surprise, for sure! It’ll be nice at some point to watch through the whole set.
I’m not going anywhere, just magnetically sealing the SW project for my own good.
I tend to obsess over things, and setting a boundary for myself would be healthy. Maybe some other non-SW project could come up, but for me I have considered these to be a few long-term projects rather than hobbies. They just… went on for a long time!
Both, once TROS:A is finished.
I imagine I’ll go on a self-imposed break for at least a little while, but I’ve got no reason not to hang around here. I’ve already been here 17 years!
Hey, save it for the end. Lol
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Have attachments, and avoid spirituality because the first time someone gets angry everyone else dies.
Thanks, guys. I say that not because I haven’t enjoyed this! Just that it’s important for it to have a definite, approachable endpoint.
And anyone is welcome to send in audio clips right up until the last minute! I should be able to fold an indefinite number in, worst case being very quiet.
And I’m tentatively planning to have the DOTF over the duel in an alternate audio track at least, so please send anything you have in mind, SkeletonPack!
Adywan is an order of magnitude more of a powerhouse, working with all aspects of moviemaking. I just drag things around in a NLE and ask people nicely for things.
I apologize for the bump, but I wanted to declare, for my own sanity, an official ‘seal’ against further tweaking:
I will NOT revise this project any further, regardless of good ideas, new resources, or perceived flaws unless each of the following condition is met:
This goes for all three prequel films. I won’t bump each one.
Consider this a binding magical spell that can’t be broken without that condition being met. An absolute prerequisite.
On a personal note, thinking back over my long history jacking around with this set of particular movies, I really feel like it’s time to stop. I can’t keep doing this and the obsession needs to end.
I’m going to see this project through, and give it as good a release as we can. I’ll even hold out in order to release an alternate ‘Rey Nobody’ cut.
But once it gets laid in place, there will probably not be a V2. Any and everyone will be more than welcome to take it and run with it to tweak and do with what they please. I’ll put out a lossless audio export and all.
But I have to make a decisive break with this when this is over. Otherwise I’ll see imperfections and be tempted to get sucked back into it. It served a purpose earlier in my life that was helpful, then I went back to it to do it right in 2013, and I’ve been pretty focused since. The prequels have been given several passes, the OT is about as reasonably good as I ever thought they’d be, TFA is wonderful, TLJ is nice, and TROS will be more fun. There will always be unfortunate aspects of them, imperfections, and issues. But I need to let go of them and let them lay.
I thank you all again for continuing to make this last hurrah surprisingly fun, but that’s what it’s going to be.
Here’s a quick mockup of using the unused score for the moment in TFA. I don’t think it’s nearly as effective, and it doesn’t sync precisely to it. It would require me to do a whole new release and encode and all of that, which I reeeeeally do not want to do. And it would only downgrade that movie anyway.
It doesn’t fit with the music to keep it in, this or any other musical piece that was considered.
It might not be so bad to just put the unused music in TFA instead. I wouldn’t have to do a new render, just audio and remux, and then distribute. If I go that route, I would probably wait for TROS to be completed just to make sure there’s nothing else to do.
If I can tonight, or whenever, I’ll mock it up to make sure it doesn’t, y’know, ruin the TFA moment or anything.
Maybe we can get the real Shaw’s ghost to do it…
Yeah, I mean, if they had really gone this way for the movie they would have had Hayden do it, so it feels fair to me.
Here’s a few uses of the Force Theme that could work (I think):
(ROTJ) Leia Breaks the News/Funeral Pyre for a Jedi: About 1:20 to the end
(TPM) The Tide Turns: 0:57 to 1:28
(AOTC) Return to Tatooine: 3:11 to 3:35
(ROTS) Battle Over Coruscant: 2:00 to 2:27
(ROTS) Anakin Vs. Obi-Wan: 4:03 to 4:30-ish
(ROTS) Battle of the Heroes: 1:58 to 2:13
I think they’re all pretty solid and could work well, but my personal favorite is The Tide Turns. It’s from the scene where Anakin destroys the Trade Federation control ship, although it’s used again in ROTS when he and Obi-Wan land the Invisible Hand on Coruscant, so it might feel overplayed. But I think they’re all good candidates if you’re looking to replace Burning Homestead. It does feel like a callback to something we JUST saw after all.
I hate to say it, but I don’t think any of those quite feel appropriate. They’re either too whimsical and not battle-y enough, or heavily choral in a way more befitting the prequels. Ugh.
As I’ve enjoyed seeing jonh say… shit!!
It’s preeeety janky.
https://youtu.be/M3Xo6Z3TZnU?t=203
Well, you answered halfway for me already. The deleted scene we get for Finn vs. Phasma is so much better, and very little of what makes it worthwhile is present in what we see in the movie. Finn doesn’t need to punch Phasma in the face to show us he’s had an arc. It’s got some silliness with the AT-ST and BB8 that I never cared for. The pacing doesn’t work to keep the fight and use the shuttle scene, which itself seems to show us all we need to see about Finn at that point, calling back to a deleted scene reinstated earlier. And when Poppasketti added Phasma’s body on the floor to his version, I knew it was right to cut the scene.
Yes, I am using jonh’s awesome work for the ghost scene in TROS.
But I won’t be adding Hayden to ROTJ. It just doesn’t feel appropriate for the movie, but feel free to take my version and edit him in yourself.
And the DSII explodes with its overall shape intact, but suddenly starts rocketing away from Endor at an incredible rate. We see a time lapse of it rocketing toward another moon.
Yes. Disney+ series would allow IX to still be the end of the Skywalker Saga sort of, and let it continue without the sort of “omg blockbuster pew pew planets destroyed JJ OMG OMG OMG” drive that theatrical releases would likely have.
I don’t disagree. Any uses of the Force theme come to mind to try? It should be accompanied by something afterward, like Burning Homestead has that deus irae part leading up to the Death Star motif.