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#1352037
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Maybe we can get the real Shaw’s ghost to do it…

Yeah, I mean, if they had really gone this way for the movie they would have had Hayden do it, so it feels fair to me.

TK-422 said:

Here’s a few uses of the Force Theme that could work (I think):

(ROTJ) Leia Breaks the News/Funeral Pyre for a Jedi: About 1:20 to the end

(TPM) The Tide Turns: 0:57 to 1:28

(AOTC) Return to Tatooine: 3:11 to 3:35

(ROTS) Battle Over Coruscant: 2:00 to 2:27

(ROTS) Anakin Vs. Obi-Wan: 4:03 to 4:30-ish

(ROTS) Battle of the Heroes: 1:58 to 2:13

I think they’re all pretty solid and could work well, but my personal favorite is The Tide Turns. It’s from the scene where Anakin destroys the Trade Federation control ship, although it’s used again in ROTS when he and Obi-Wan land the Invisible Hand on Coruscant, so it might feel overplayed. But I think they’re all good candidates if you’re looking to replace Burning Homestead. It does feel like a callback to something we JUST saw after all.

I hate to say it, but I don’t think any of those quite feel appropriate. They’re either too whimsical and not battle-y enough, or heavily choral in a way more befitting the prequels. Ugh.

As I’ve enjoyed seeing jonh say… shit!!

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#1351961
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
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https://youtu.be/M3Xo6Z3TZnU?t=203

Well, you answered halfway for me already. The deleted scene we get for Finn vs. Phasma is so much better, and very little of what makes it worthwhile is present in what we see in the movie. Finn doesn’t need to punch Phasma in the face to show us he’s had an arc. It’s got some silliness with the AT-ST and BB8 that I never cared for. The pacing doesn’t work to keep the fight and use the shuttle scene, which itself seems to show us all we need to see about Finn at that point, calling back to a deleted scene reinstated earlier. And when Poppasketti added Phasma’s body on the floor to his version, I knew it was right to cut the scene.

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#1351859
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Yes, it was touching for the trailer and it really belongs in that kind of context. It gave me chills too in jonh’s clip! But it doesn’t feel right within the movie itself, in the theater about 1 hour and 50 minutes in. As a clip or trailer, yes it’s awesome.

Here’s what I mean. I haven’t lined up the rough mix perfectly, but it shows the difference between the two pieces.

TFA unused track test (rough, quick job): https://vimeo.com/425712159

Burning homestead (polished): https://vimeo.com/425712582

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#1351768
Topic
Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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A few characters name Exegol onscreen throughout the movie, too. I’d be surprised, but if there exists usable 3PO dialogue about Korriband or Moriban or whatever, I certainly wouldn’t mind a tiny bit of worldbuilding as he says something like, “The hidden world of the Sith, after what happened on Korriband” or something like that. Just a throwaway line that hints at something more complicated.

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#1351729
Topic
Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Ed Slushie said:

Speaking of Exegol, do we know if there’s any recording of Threepio saying the word “Korriban” (or “Moraband”)? The way they introduced the idea of Exegol in the movie kind of gave me the impression they had just forgotten about Korriban, and I only later realized it was important to the story for Exegol to be a planet nobody had ever been to before. I think if after “the lost world of the Sith” Threepio said something like “where they went after the siege of Korriban, and supposedly remain to this day” then it would be a lot clearer.

That’d be cool!

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#1351618
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Yeah, I will not be altering his death in my edit, though I appreciate the view that he should have lived.

If someone finds a convincing, natural way to pull it off, which I’m not convinced is really possible, maybe it could be included in the Rey Nobody version. But would we have to assume he left Exegol separate from Rey, avoided the resistance celebration and met up with her on Tatooine later?

Of it he is at the celebration are we to assume everyone was like “hey even Supreme Leader Kylo Ren is here, woo!”?

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#1351586
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Religion
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I should really stop by the off topic section more often. I just haven’t hardly done so since it was split into three.

I was raised Baptist and sort of built up a fortress of self-imposed fundamentalism as a youngster. Young earth creation, literalism, etc. But for me I was academic about it, like down into the nuts and bolts. I thought about it, a lot. And diligently worked to work out the kinks, fill in the holes, fortifying it. For me the texts of scripture and my supposed system derived from them was the base and other areas of academia, like science, were slave to it. Bend the presuppositions, and you have a warped but functional perspective, unassailable against any more facts.

After a while it reached a tipping point of no return, though it was still a long process of defeat that had to play out. For me it started when I re-investigated my young earth views with a decidedly critical eye. I set out to re-evaluate it under the lens of scripture, but got more than I bargained for. It became clear that the only way to be consistent is to be a flat-earther, which is a bridge way too far. Another monkey wrench was how to regard Neanderthals. In a young earth view, they’re just people, sons of Adam, and we’re a strong point compared to an old earth (but literal Adam and Eve) view.

This began a pursuit for answers that slowly, painfully unraveled everything. My fortress was based in scripture, and my assumptions about it. And those were shown not to be what I’d supposed. There’s no magic, no obviously supernatural predictions that were unambiguously fulfilled, and most prophecy was handled very creatively. The Bible stopped behaving itself and left me with no special truths to cling to about the deepest parts of existence.

For me the final piece holding back a collapse was one tell-all question, which had always been my hill to die on no matter what: if one had a time machine and a video camera, what would be committed to videotape if it were pointed at Jesus’ grave the night before Easter. Though the means of verifying an objective answer are obviously impossible, there must be a correct answer in principle. Even if allllll the other instances of correspondence between my understanding of the Bible’s description of history and reality as learned by other means breaks down, even if the Exodus was a myth, even if Jesus were a fully human being who was imperfect, this question of the literal resurrection was the absolute final thing to go.

And I just let it go. And I’ve been so much better off for it. I’ve gotten a taste for liberal thought, mostly eastern. But I still return to my Christian ‘mask of God’ and am seeing how it has truth far deeper than the literal. But you have to destroy the literal to get there.

I love the scene between Luke and Yoda in TLJ. I’ve been there.

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#1351564
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Two more things:

Burning homestead is the best musical choice for the added ghosts, as heard in most of jonh’s mockups, so that’s what I’m gonna go with.

And, would anyone like to add a subtle double rainbow to the first real shot of the Lars homestead? It was an idea from a while back that just felt right to the group and I supposed could be seen as a way to touch on Leia’s childhood home also, since there is a double rainbow ribbon thing as the ship approaches the city on Alderaan in ROTS.