Hal 9000

NeverAr has it exactly right.

I think skenera’s recent clip is the best I’ve seen so far. He’s not sure how to finish it up, as the existing footage snooker presented as explosion flashes that reach across the frame.

Probably not.

Bugs me to keep seeing that mislabeled. It’s Reese Withouterspoon.

Seems like they’re skimming for a landing spot.

I’d prefer not to add the palace. It probably would have made me gently roll my eyes in the theater.

Maybe add TV’s Frink’s speeder bike and probe droids flying by.

I don’t know about Jabba’s palace. It would imply it’s around the block from the Lars homestead. Prior, it could be on any part of the planet. I don’t think it’d be good to squish it into frame here.

Just like TLJ!

We’ve certainly augmented a few things in light of TLJ, but I do not share the appraisal of TROS ignoring TLJ. It clearly wanted to retcon some stuff, though.

The best example is poppasketti’s change for this project to tweak a Kylo Ren line. Rather than telling Rey, “I never lied to you,” he says, “You were right.” Because, in TLJ Kylo never told Rey her parents were nobody. She did. It rings more true this way.

Another is removing the idea that Leia (and, more puzzling, Luke) somehow knew Rey was granddaughter of Palpatine. TLJ seems not to leave any room at all to suppose Luke knew who she was. In this edit, we aren’t told when Luke found out, so I would think one would assume he learned it at some point after dying, and it doesn’t matter much by the time we see him on Ach-To with Rey.

Kewlfish’s crackling saber effect seems to add a layer of meaning to TLJ breaking the Skywalker saber.

Added comm chatter sort of implies that word of what Luke did on Crait has continued to play an inspirational role.

I’m sure there’s more that I can’t think of right now. About the only thing that has been done to TFA and TLJ in light of this movie has been to sprinkle in a few very subtle Palpatine hints. And I guess to partially reinstate lines about ‘cheating death’ from Palpatine in LOE.

If one had the entire saga to reboot, surely the story would be quite different. You could seriously iron out the kinks and apparent retcons.
Would one be obliged to stick to certain key points?

Only one Death Star. ROTJ’s battle centers around a fleet or an attack on the Emperor’s person on Coruscant. No Starkiller Base, either.

Anakin’s origins are shrouded, with no virgin birth stuff. Prophecy is fine, but it would later be subtly implied to be a sort of ongoing thing, like anyone can be anointed as a chosen one by their actions.

Rey Nobody, to go along with the above.

We get to know the Sith with exposition and seeing them scheme, perhaps with Plagueis being the shadowy villain for TPM. We should have some sense of their history.

The third trilogy would delve into mystical aspects of the Force and balance, perhaps letting us know the Whills. Something to elevate them thematically over what we already saw in the second trilogy.

Really, though, if I had 9 guaranteed films to sketch out, I’d let 1-5 be similar to what we know of the existing saga at their basic plots, and then replace 6 with a 6-9 worth of stuff as Luke finds his lost twin and faces Palpatine in an Ep9 showdown.

Well put. I think it’d be very hard not to come across as clumsy.

Hoop28 said:

Toblerone said:

Hoop28 said:

Hal, have you considered having Luke speak to Ben during the Mustafar Opening or when he is repairing his mask? Maybe just a quick line like “Ben”, but something just to be consistent with Luke’s last words in TLJ of “see you around kid”.

https://vimeo.com/446189953
Any thoughts?

I really, really like that! I think it works incredibly well! I also think that Luke shouting “Ben!” when he turns his head on Mustafar would be a good idea, but this is fantastic!

I don’t think it works, but I would’ve liked Luke to haunt Ben more than he seems to have.

Cinefy said:

Would be nice to replace the music when Knights Of Ren arrive in this clip with something more memorable/interesting, theres currently just a generic random theme thats only in TROS that I wasn’t much of a fan of.

https://vimeo.com/432014515

I don’t think it’s needed. I like what’s there just fine.

Yeah, since there’s no last word of the sentence to accentuate. And now it feels more effective when we do see him talk to say, “Everything.”

Yeah, here we go!
https://vimeo.com/446264574

We’d floated the idea of Corellia, and that’d be my pick for an extra-saga planet. But I think it’s better to keep it in-story.

Unrelated: it might do for someone to simply keep Palpatine’s face in the dark (remove flashes of lightning) until the line “as all the Sith live in me” finishes. I may be able to myself without any FX needed, so I’ll give it a try if I am able to sit down (again, that’s kneel) at the computer later.

Ewoks glow in the dark.

nl0428 said:

Hal 9000 said:

How I thought it would feel nearing the very end of the ‘9000 Saga’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=248ggPoK158&t=12s

What it actually feels like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68jxhJYmo7o

So… you’re disappointed that work on this edit may never truly end?

No, just that it’s more melancholy than triumphant.

When Chewie tosses the Imperial from the top of the AT-ST during the Battle of Endor, the guy’s head and body have separate trajectories, each trailed by blood.

How I thought it would feel nearing the very end of the ‘9000 Saga’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=248ggPoK158&t=12s

What it actually feels like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68jxhJYmo7o

Clavis said:

Has anyone considered Tatooine replacing the Jakku shot?

https://vimeo.com/445980139

We’re about to go there anyway, and it’d be good to have a ST planet in there, too. Ideally, it’d be Kijimi, but there’s no footage to use.

To be fair, the Coruscant shot has the aftermath of a ‘Holdo maneuver,’ which is why it appears almost static as opposed to the other shots with falling destroyers.

skenera said:

I tried to improve the Naboo shot: https://vimeo.com/445910295

Looked at it a second time. I don’t think anyone would’ve had a problem with it if it were onscreen in the cinema.

Well once everything mapped out is completed and ready, I’ll move on it. Things may come up before then, and that’s fine. I know this edit won’t feature every good idea that will eventually emerge, but it’ll be a good starting point for anyone to carry forward.

Who knows? It’ll probably be close to December anyway.

To reiterate: I’m not planning to rush or skimp. Just smelling the retirement home.

Congratulations! It’s a weird time to be starting a new job, so best of luck.

skenera said:

I tried to improve the Naboo shot: https://vimeo.com/445910295

It’s certainly promising. It still feel like it needs a bigger sense of scale by slowing down its movement and the speed of the smoke. I wonder how fast it’d have to be moving to have that apparent speed from the planet’s surface. I do like it a great deal, though.