Hal 9000

Me, too, please.

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Noted. I want to mail down the ‘blocking’ of the little sequence before I get into the grittier audio aspects. Does it feel right to have the extended shot play over what used to be a cutaway to Poe, then play out the equivalent duration longer?

Axlanian did a great job mixing the cries and yells to the old blocking of shots, so I’m wondering if it feels right to have a couple whoops, Poe can say something vague about “wow let’s go” and then a couple “For Skywalker”s at the same point in the music as before, followed by a bit more enthused chatter.

Okay, so here’s this. We can certainly give Poe a line or two from video games or whatever, and add a few more hollers from people sending in audio.

Y’know, things like “let’s give 'em hell!” and “ASS!”

https://vimeo.com/457355065

Hmm, I don’t know. I think there’s no real continuity issue, as Finn can approach the other two from offscreen easily in that timeframe. Apologies because I can’t remember who off the dome, but someone has the idea to add a few faint footstep sounds to imply Finn is walking over even. The clip you posted, and granted that I’m watching with a hawk eye, feels edited as the dialogue doesn’t match their mouths, especially Rey calling out Poe’s name.

I dunno, I think what we got so far is probably as good as that little scene is going to get.

I agree; the way your arranged them really fit what was there.

Perhaps a portion of the shot could be used only to cover the last part of the Poe shot where he says “every one we knock out is a world saved.” And leave the timing how it was.

That’s pretty good! I’m not sure it’s totally believable for the trooper not to recognize these characters at this point, so it could be all right to leave the dialogue as it was. Lando kills him before he can report back or alert anyone else.

EDIT: Actually, the original line features him reporting back! Well, the first part can stay, just “hold it right there.”

^ I think it looks pretty okay. Doesn’t stand up to tough scrutiny, but that shot in particular looks pretty sharp and good to my eyes.

Here’s a version I like a little better, including Wedge instead of the tail end of the shot, breaking up multiple shots of a bunch of ships and allowing the music not to be cut up.

https://vimeo.com/457153375

Ideally footage where ships whoosh into frame from either the side or behind, for panning audio.

I think someone had sent in a recording “For Mandalore,” so I should try to find it. Like I said, send in a bit more of that sort of thing, guys!

And if anyone with more time or skill than I would like, I welcome some 5.1 audio with panning audio to hear ships coming from the rear channels and transitioning into the front, synced to the footage or not.

Anyone know of any clips from The Clone Wars or Rebels or Resistance where several ships enter frame rapidly? Maybe could lift audio for the couple ‘squadrons’ of small ships at the end of the extended shot.

I wonder if maybe reintroducing the Wedge shot at the end could let us cut away from the extended shot right before it gets particularly problematic from an audio perspective with the squadrons.

And Poe can still say “hit those underbelly cannons” via comm.

https://vimeo.com/457114176

Here’s the current state of this shot. I’ll probably move the “For Skywalker” shouts earlier, and would need a few more whoops and hollers.

It could use some more sound effects as ships woosh into frame from behind, and so forth. Mrbenjamino’s sound effects work well but more are needed.

Hey, I hear ya! Fortunately you’re able to do that and can be happy with it. 😃

I’ve done something similar before with another person’s edit, so I get it!

Well, unless I want to introduce a generational loss across the entire trilogy by ripping the finished edits themselves, at this point it’d probably be easiest to manually trace and rebuild the entire trilogy by overlaying them by a guideline proxy video track ripped from the existing finished edits.

It’s just not worth it, not without the truckloads of free time I once had. Those FCP7 project files are houses burning down caught in suspended animation.

I don’t get it. Is TROS Ziggy and I’s mutual enemy?

dgraham414 said:

Do you think you’ll update your edits when this is complete?

I simply can’t. It’s all right, I don’t think it’s quite a world of difference anyway.

But if they’re ID’d on the planet it ruins Kylo getting the necklace. I welcome further work, but I wouldn’t count on using it. No offense, of course.

Thank you for reminding me about Rose’s earlier line about the cannons. I think that’ll be fine, then.

Anyone have any Poe dialogue in mind or at the ready to replace the later line, “This is our last chance, we need to hit those cannons now”?

It’d about need to be replaced if the only other line explicitly referencing the cannons is gone.

And, of course, there will be room for a handful more "woo"s from you all. Send 'em to me!

Right now, the now much longer shot opens with, “We believe in you, Poe!” and “We’re here to help, Poe!” Halfway through there are a couple of, "For Skywalker"s, and then nothing for a few seconds.

You’ll get a sense of how it is whenever I can get audio sounding good!

Well, the full extended shot is only 8 frames short of totally covering both the Poe “hit those cannons” and Wedge “good shooting, Lando” shots. The remaining 8 frames of audio are easily removed. So, this stands to be a very nice change, for plot logic reasons.

I will play with the audio when I can, tonight if I’m lucky. We will need someone to doctor the video a little to remove watermark and make the color/contrast/brightness/other-things-I-don’t-know-about closer to the film footage. I’m confident someone here can do that nicely, so I will proceed with getting the audio to sound like how it’ll need to and post a clip when I can. 😃

Ziggy, I like how that clip is paced, but it kinda destroys any logic the sequence had.

There’s no rush at all.

mrbenjamino said:

Hal 9000 said:

mrbenjamino said:

I gave a go at doing sound for the shot, only issue is the shot isn’t in the best quality ever but it should be serviceable. also I’m pretty new to sound stuff, i did it in mind that there would be more radio chatter on top of it

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EIIUPBtBVwgtNvsb3JAnaPsChVNY_dAf/view?usp=sharing

I dunno how to remove the watermark either lol.

Sounds good to me, too! I can’t tell for the moment, but is it in surround? Could you perhaps export it with ONLY the added sound effects (no music)? If it’s only stereo, I may need separate tracks for some of the sounds to be able to pan as ships fly into frame from behind.

Honestly, I couldn’t figure out how to mix in 5.1 so I just tested it out with 6 different audio tracks with one all the way right, one half way to the right, etc etc; However, I’ve just figured it out lol, so ill redo it and get it done soonish.

(edit: i actually don’t really understand it lol. should i just send every track as a separate audio file? the shot where I’ve edited it from takes place right after poe’s “hit those underbelly cannons blah blah blah”

If you can just send me six audio tracks and let me know which is which that’d be amazing. If you would just include the video stream as well, the entire unbroken shot, that’d be helpful as well. I’ll do my best to assemble it and see if there’ll be room for a few more “woo”s from you all. And then whenever the watermark can be removed we’ll hopefully be all set.

DZ-330 said:

I just merged the TFA credits and TROS credits music files. In a perfect world, it would include Hal’s lead in with the Skywalker theme, cut to Rey’s, and then finish out with the Star Wars theme. Basically just adding like 6 or 7 more seconds to the audio that Hal is using. But I don’t have that audio track to work off of.

That’s how I feel about it, too.

CarterStarkiller said:

Hal 9000 said:

For anyone who would like it, here’s the ending scene with no added music. (The video track is compressed, but the audio is not.)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ol5gOj66ASm93SRLx7YrnGfgifSc0y_9/view?usp=sharing

Previously on /post/id/1371613 of this thread I found the end notes from the Star Wars Rebels epilogue can act as a bridge between the TFA cue and the TROS end credits to add more of the familiar jolt for those not quite satisfied with the current workprint audio. Using Hal’s shared “ending scene with no added music” and Final Cut Pro X, I added and synced the TROS end credits music with the clip, then I synced the end notes from Rebels, then I added the TFA cue. I don’t have the phenomenal TFA cue fade in from bbghost so I just did my own simple crossfade for this proof of concept. I’ve added the shared clip with my audio as well as a screenshot of what I did in FCPX to my google drive folder. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dYFzUxQSHDRQq3m67gEhQJs8IRPJavl9?usp=sharing

Note: This isn’t meant to be used as final audio, this is only a concept/test. If someone with more audio editing wants to use my idea for their own edit/audio track go for it.

I don’t think it works to have that much added to the end, as I feel the transition from the final note of Rey’s theme into credits works just fine. However, I will play with adding a slight hint of it and see if that makes it better. Thanks for including the audio files you worked from!