Hal 9000

It seems that in any event her parents are redeemed as good and noble, unfortunately.

Yeah, I was rethinking that particular line while I was watching the clip I rendered.

I believe I decided to go with an earlier line where somebody shouts ‘traitor.’

I’m hoping we can reeeally pull it off.

Too much would need to be cut to effectively have Chewie die, IMHO.

Rey Nobody will work fine, I’m sure of it. There’s just a lot of R&D left, it seems like. I’ll look forward to it, but it’s out of my hands. We’ll hopefully have the regular cut to watch before too terribly long, and there’s no rush to finish the Nobody cut just for speed’s sake.

I think the movie still feels like having Rey be a Palpatine is integral to her struggle. But it’s obviously a left turn from TLJ.
I’m hoping the Rey Nobody version can be as good as possible, and I’m counting on the creativity of others that I will happily reflect in the product. But, I still think Rey Palpatine is better for this movie in and of itself.

But, hey, I kept Padme alive in Episode 3, so I am known not to totally abide by that thinking. At any rate, both cuts will be completed and made available.

Yeah, that’s what prompted me to think about that this morning!

Axlanian is working on tweaking the audio for the 3PO/trooper interaction, but I haven’t heard any line suggestions I like better than what RogueLeader did.

Here’s the sound effect for the crackling saber. No visuals, just sound in this clip: https://vimeo.com/456175362

No, I did, then I remembered that you already did in that other thread so I edited my post.

Lol, thanks! I’ll post another clip of the saber audio as it stands.

I don’t really care for “you’re that droid” as a line since it was forty years ago and a different government.

Well, I’ve been focusing solely on the default, Rey Palpatine version of this project. However, while we’re waiting on kewlfish’s crackling saber footage and potentially a few other things, maybe it’d be good to start thinking about the Rey Nobody version.

Well, if I ever do get to try it, here are my initial thoughts:

Remove 49 minutes from the Maple Films Hobbit edit

Begin with the Maple Films version, trimming further as inspired by the 3hr Spence edit and 2hr Fiona Van Dahl cut.

Loose ideas

• Include visual montage of backstory during the fireside song
• Remove pocket handkerchief gag in favor of beginning the traveling montage
• Dwarves go along with “they’re infected” right away
• Probably remove Gandalf and Elrond conversation at night setting up white council and dragon sickness
• Mute Thorin saying Bilbo has no place amongst them
• Experiment with reintroducing the flashback that introduces Azog
• Perhaps include the EE two-by-two Beorn scene
• Trim Gimli reference and Bilbo versus baby spider
• They don’t get into fish barrels, just show up already in them
• Cut down the Master and Alfrid more, but be mindful not to go too far
• The dwarves do not enter the mountain before Smaug exits
• Bard shouldn’t go to jail and can just spring into action
• Search the subtitles for ‘dragon sickness’ to kill all but the briefest allusions to the idea
• Maybe don’t even show Bilbo leave and give the arkenstone away, letting it be revealed to us as it is to Thorin
• Add a subtitle comma to the Azog line that was missing one

To be fair, the transition sounded better than most edits I’ve glanced at. I just don’t feel like a real movie would’ve been like that, but I’m a stickler.

Maple Films retains the elves shooting at them and an ambush by orcs, but it’s cut down heavily. Azog later references Bolg failing to stop them, and it feels like a real movie, although you do still have to put up with Azog and Bolg being in that much of the movie.

If I had the time, I’d like to do a scene by scene comparison between the Maple Films version and the 2-hour Hobbit cut and marry the two. Start from the Maple Films edit, and cut away at it further by considering anything for removal not contained in the 2-Hour cut until arriving at approximately the length of the theatrical ROTK.

The audio isn’t meant for listening, just for laying into a NLE. It’s six separate mono files, so you probably are listening only to the Left channel.

Just glanced at it. It fails my litmus test, at about 2hr13m. Oh, well.

Coming your way.

For anyone who would like it, here’s the ending scene with no added music. (The video track is compressed, but the audio is not.)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ol5gOj66ASm93SRLx7YrnGfgifSc0y_9/view?usp=sharing

That’s what makes it a bad idea.

ziggyonice said:

Hal 9000 said:

Here’s another version of the extra lever shot. I extended Chewie’s grown, which hopefully works, and used a different piece of buffer audio from earlier in the scene that doesn’t have the wind that was causing issues.
https://vimeo.com/453744130

Going back to the Poe pulling the lever, this looks great.

That said, Hal, I took your edit and added the sound of the hyperdrive kicking in. The change is subtle but I really think it helps to sell that sequence.

Take a look: https://vimeo.com/455670684/fefe98d1d7

Nice. Could you send just the sound effect?

Kerr has done edits of each of the Hobbit films and, while I found AUJ to be a solid improvement and am sure the other two are similarly, I don’t really care to watch anything but a 3-in-1 edit.

Maple Films is the Hobbit edit I go to. It’s the only one I’ve checked out that truly feels like it works as well as it’d need to on its own. It’s not perfect, but it’s the best IMHO.

When I check out a Hobbit edit, I use the barrel scene as a litmus test. If it goes from the music obviously ramping up for an action sequence to the dwarves floating listlessly, as they almost all do, it fails the test and I look no further.

Ill PM you.

The latter: I used the track without added music by default, and added the specific changes that I felt belonged soundly (pun intended).

If I had had any idea Kerr’s regular version of this project would remain unseen, I’d have kept my sources he sent. As it stands, what I have released is all I have.

I mirror your praise to Kerr and was happy to re-extend it somewhat for a version I could be cozy with.

It works implausibly well. 😉

Maybe add any Jedi actors’ songs who have recorded ant to the Exegol confrontation, singing rather than speaking to Rey.

StarkillerAG said:

Hal 9000 said:

“You will go to the Dagobah system. There you will learn from Yoda, the Jedi Master who instructed the Jedi Master who instructed the Jedi Master who instructed me.”

Didn’t you already fix it in your own edit? You changed the line to have Ben refer to Yoda as “a Jedi master who instructed me”, not “the Jedi master who instructed me.”

Y we ah but this is more radical.

An inverse, evil Christmas. Palpatine is Santa, etc.

Off the dome…

Reworked the Arwen plot, retaining most of it but somehow making it more palatable to purists. She doesn’t set out for the Havens, yet still converses with Elrond and advocates for Aragorn. It’s been restructured substantially throughout all three films and really wowed me. She’s still a big part of the story but Kerr avoided the trigger points for purists.

Theoden’s exorcism does not show a literal possession by Saruman.

No elves at Helm’s Deep, save for Legolas. Masterfully done, compared to my efforts a decade ago.

Denethor dies on the pyre, not by running off the city.

The battle of Pelennor Fields is restructured beautifully, “fixing” something that was already beautiful.

Same goes for the entirety of ROTK: restructuring for new juxtapositions that elevate the material. For example, Aragorn challenging Sauron via palantir literally draws his eye away from nearly spotting Frodo, more seamlessly integrating this EE scene into the narrative.

Throughout, Kerr tightens things up here and there. He loved the theatrical editions, which is why I felt a desire to re-extend them somewhat like this. There overall feel, even in my version as compared to the real EEs, is a bit tighter and featuring just a bit less silliness that felt overly modern. The humor is intact, just pruned. For example, he removed the crumbling stairs from FOTR and it’d associated dwarf tossing reference in TTT.

The Mouth of Sauron is missing, and I did not try to reinstate it because it would’ve meant destroying how he had beautifully reworked that portion of the movie. (And I only would’ve included it if there were a good way to remove Aragorn barbarically killing the messenger.)

All in all, it’s a genuinely invigorating fan edit for anybody, though I think non-insistent book lovers will get the most enjoyment from it.