Hal 9000

Felt unnecessary to me after six years of not having it there.

Eh, I don’t really want to trim Leia any further. Nor to revise the nav tower plot element. It’s not great, but I’d rather keep the fragile nuances in place to the degree they are in the theatrical.

I know it’d take far too much work to actually change her wardrobe throughout the movie. It would be much more doable to merely tackle the ending scene. However, it really wouldn’t make sense to give her dark clothing there. If anything, I’d expect this to be her final goodbye to the old ways before changing her outfit as she ventures out into her new journey. I guess it’s a “could, but probably shouldn’t” thing.

Master Lawdog said:

Hey, Hal. I just noticed something about your current version of this edit. None of the additions/changes made in the 2011 Blu-ray are present. Did you use a HDTV source for this current version of Episode III? If so, I was wondering why you went with it? Better coloring?

Yeah, it seemed to me to be a slightly more integrated look, given that several scenes were sourced from the DVD. It mattered less for ROTS than AOTC, but it still felt like the right choice. I used Schorman’s V2 of the HDTV version. The only thing I think that would’ve been good to include from 2011 was the moss on the Kashyyk hut, but even then, who cares? I definitely didn’t want to use any of the audio changes made.

^ Ah, I gotcha now, Test. Well, I still think it’s a pretty weak arc and it feels right to remove his felt need to express it to her. I’d probably feel differently if the film ever made it a little clearer what it was.

Finn’s BPD symptoms subside a little for at least the rest of the day. That’s his big arc in the movie.

Anyway, I don’t want to strip his Force sensitivity from the movie and I’m not really sure what more to say about it.

RogueLeader said:

Since we’ve moved the holochess scene to the end, maybe we could give Finn a Padawan braid? Lol. I feel like Finn could pull that look off.

Oof. lol

After Rey shoots lightning and we close up on her hand, a gouge on her wrist reveals wires and circuits underneath.

Reintroducing Palpatine in song would certainly be an improvement from “The dead speak!”

The navigation tower makes a certain amount of sense. I think if the changes you suggest were made, it may as well become the self-destruct button. The way it is here, they’re buying a window of time in which to open vulnerability to the fleet. It’s unclear whether other ships than the lead could take over that role. By simplifying this aspect of the plot even more I think it would make it feel dumber rather than less dumb.
It’s not my intention to remove Finn’s Force sensitivity altogether, just the awkward “OMG RAY I NEVER TOLD Y—“. He still has his conversation with Jannah, senses the nav tower change, and senses Rey’s death. There are more hints besides, and hopefully we get stories to come that capitalize on them.

I wouldn’t mind changing the line to “I will earn your family(‘s) saber,” and I think “the birth of her son at the end of her Jedi path” might work. Dunno if either are feasible with what we have at our disposal.

Darkening the color of the saber burial cloth is a good idea, I’m glad you brought that up again. I don’t know about Rey’s clothes though; it’d make more sense to me to have her wear black until that scene instead.

I’d give it to drgraham and his idea to change each ghost’s color to match their lightsabers. I could imagine some YouTuber out there spending time doing that in earnest.

Add Yoda’s ghost behind Luke’s. Without his realizing, Yoda lifts the X-Wing once again.

Ed Slushie said:

“So I told Poppasketti to change the color of this TIE Fighter and he actually did it, the absolute madman!”

^ Yeah, it need not be any less subtle than in the original. It’s okay to be a blink-and-you-miss-it thing.

I clicked that link and started reading the thread from there. Then I thought, “How the hell have I not checked this thread since November?”

I’ll get that to you, thanks.

Both of those look great!

I’ll send poppasketti the relevant clips here in a bit. Do you need that shot, Burbin?

Yes. There’s also be it’s appearance in several shots during the infamous hangar scene.

Sure, I can do that!
I think there’s also at least one shot of Ren’s TIE descending toward Kijimi that would also need to be tweaked.

RogueLeader said:

My answer would be: Whatever is easiest to change!

Yeah. Without looking, I’m hearing that there’s a colored stripe. Yeah, there’s no reason to work any harder than to change its color.

Again, I don’t ask for this but I’ll include it if anyone does want to.

ThisIsCreation said:

I’m very curious Hal - outside of the remaining edits being done, is there anything in the movie you’ve wanted to change or enhance that has yet to be discussed?

I’ve always felt like a slow, meticulous thinker. And with my life being busy the last year especially, I don’t feel like I’ve afforded TROS the same sort of care that I had to the others. I’ve wound up in an executive-type role.

That said, nothing pops right to mind. Hell, a lot of the changes being made would not have struck me as possible in the first place.

Watching TROS:A is going to be enough of an elevated* experience compared to the theatrical. Much more so than I imagined when creating this thread out of obligation. I’m impressed and happy with it, as you all know. I can only imagine if I could travel back in time and show myself V2 before seeing the theatrical and then present myself the cutlist of what is different.

*you know the pun is intended

NeverarGreat said:

There is no ‘Even Worst Ideas Thread’.

Disturbingly plausible changes. Those are my favorite.

omg lol

This sounds like a job for…

EU AUTHORS.

lol

And I am not holding my breath for any more material to work with here. If we ever do get any, great, but I am doubtful.

EDIT: Maybe add a bumper sticker?

In all seriousness, if anyone does want to visually augment the Pasaana TIE in a way that isn’t detrimental, be my guest. I don’t ask for it but I’d be open to including it.

Make Luke’s ghost in TROS green to “honor” the Irishness of Ach-To.