Hal 9000

DZ-330 said:

When Finn blows up

“Sad.”

Well, I knew there’d be a lot to come back to today after taking the weekend off from this thread.

The Mustafar shot: interesting idea and great mockup. I don’t think I prefer it over the either of the two existing shots we’ve added to the sequence, though, and I wonder if three shots would be too much. Or if it would even harmonize well with the existing forest shot.

The Exegol battle. Boy, oh, boy, I gotta be honest in saying that I don’t really care one way or the other. Personally, if there’s a decent argument to be made for the way it plays on in the theatrical, I’d rather leave it alone. I’ll just put this to bed and decide against making changes to it. Fortunately, as sherlock outlines, the couple of changed needed could easily be made by whomever may want to.

I think that’d be a whole ‘nother level, unless your two clips were at the same angle to begin with.

I’ll swear some for you. Condolences.

Hey guys, I’m gonna give myself permission to check out regarding TROS:A for the weekend. I’ll check back in on Monday.

When Rey protests about Poe’s ire after returning to base in TROS, modify Finn’s line to, “[You know] it’s true.”

I just love how caveman-logic that idea is.

“Let me see them… my parents…”

“Eh, sure, here ya go!”

Butterfly effect, maybe there wouldn’t have been the capitol riots.

JEDIT: Say I’m a determinist. I’d say, “This movie was always going to happen. TROS was ordained from the foundation of the world.”

CaptainFaraday said:

In Rey’s cave vision in TLJ, when Rey asks the mirror to show her her parents, replace Rey’s reflection when the mirror clears with her parents from TROS.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Alright, this is a SUPER subtle change but these are the kinds of things that will make Leia’s performance seem more realistic. I added in some light struggle effects when Leia collapses in the command room:

https://youtu.be/V-5pT7YxyB8

I forgot to lower the pitch on it but I think it works well enough as-is.

Pretty subtle indeed, but I like it.

Yeah I agree that it’d be too on the nose to snipe a line from TROS.

It’s too much. I’d love to do that in 2018 though.

Eh, let’s do it, then, and lop off those four words. Sounds like the dynamics of the rest of the movie still make as much sense as before and I guarantee you I’d never notice that line was shortened if I watched the movie a million times.

Thinking about that dumbass Sith fleet.

Seems like the best way to smooth things over would’ve been to portray the FO as crippled, desperate, and scrappy in TLJ. (There could’ve been a dangerous power vacuum.) Then they stood to benefit from an actual fleet in TROS.

The FO was already comically overpowered in TLJ, so it makes little sense to suggest their resources would be increased by a factor of ten thousand. This is compounded by the idea that random monk people on a hidden wasteland built all this (tens of thousands of ships identical to Imperial design) by hand over 30 years out of crap smuggled in from their pockets.

In our retelling, it’s a stashed Imperial fleet, which really can’t be all that large. But there’s just about no way to remove the idea that the FO is beholden to it, or drastically reduce their power in TLJ.

I remember in the thrasher seeing ROTS and thinking toward the end, “Well, there goes Droids.”

All right, that makes sense when you lay it out like that. That’s the sort of subtlety I would hate to remove for no reason, even if it’s muddy as presented. The whole movie is a series of things happening quickly that you’re following along with practically jogging.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I’m like 99% sure that Carrie was having a hilarious time during the recording session for her lines on that game and it does show through. There are some death sounds in here that are just so funny.

I’m just willing to overlook it and also rationalize it as Leia not understanding that Rey wasn’t in a good mood at first. Thus the tone shift.

Lemme listen again in a day and hear it again fresh. Again, it feels sublime on paper.

Well hey, I see what you mean. Earlier I read into it more subtlety than it really seems it has. Merely removing “for just minutes” could indeed streamline things. They don’t follow up on this really, unless it’s when Poe says “this is our last chance we gotta hit those cannons now!”
What’s he mean by “just minutes”? That after that the ships will be oriented again?

Rey, a few minutes into an intense Force vision after reaching for Anakin’s lightsaber, wanders a wintry landscape in apprehension. A voice beckons her.

“Hello there, Rey. I’m Obi-Wan Kenobi, a Jedi Knight. Don’t be afraid! You must learn the ways of the Force.”

Two films later, after Palpatine fucking EXPLODES, a familiar voice congratulates her.

“You see? You can do it.”

Wonderful idea and I really want it to work, though it doesn’t quite.

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Just like Carrie Fisher in TROS!

When the not-Jawa is shoo’d away by Rey from ensnaring BB8, Rey tells the droid that he “wants you for pot.”

If someone wants to do it, grey robes could be pretty cool.

And I’ll probably be pretty picky about extra Leia lines, but let’s see what sticks!

TestingOutTheTest said:

@Hal 9000 The scavenger clothing is part of who Rey is, why would we want to take that away?

It feels like a regression to me. She changed her look once she moved forward from her Jakku days, and she appeared more grown up with that look. She looks younger with her hair and clothing this way, although that’s subjective.

They were working with scraps for Leia, and much more than we have. I am open to mock-ups but I don’t imagine most of these being improvements. I’ve been wrong before and it doesn’t hurt to try and see.

About the end scene, black would make sense for a funeral but it still feels like it signals the wrong thing. I agree grey might be nice, but it’s still the same outfit and I feel it’d be obvious it was merely recolored. I’d really like to see a return to what she wore at the end of TFA and most of TLJ, really. Or just something new. I imagine they had her revert to her scavenging looks in order to fit with footage of hugging Carrie from TFA. I really think that’s most of the reason why.

Felt unnecessary to me after six years of not having it there.