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NeverarGreat said:

It gives me a certain sense of power realizing that I could probably propose changing just about any single line in this movie and watch the ensuing battle as people slowly realize all over again that thinking about the line for more than a minute shatters the illusion of the film’s world.

ZORII: Night raids are going to start soon. I’ll keep lookout.

Thinking about removing this, seems superfluous or something…

NeverarGreat said:

It gives me a certain sense of power realizing that I could probably propose changing just about any single line in this movie and watch the ensuing battle as people slowly realize all over again that thinking about the line for more than a minute shatters the illusion of the film’s world.

lol, ouch. Painfully accurate.

Also, JJB, that’s a good observation that it was a “sent” transmission. Even so, he probably just means because Rey will see her in person.

Okay, let’s back up here. At first blush it seems like a harmless removal but it seems to fit into the scene. Finn asks “how’d you find us” to set up Lando’s first unmasked line, which implies an understanding that this person was looking for them, which only makes sense with the Leia line.
Given that the movie removes the justification for Lando being there, losing his child, the Leia line has something to offer.

I don’t think the tension building thing really matters in this context. I get the point on paper but this scene as we have it, I don’t think it matters.

I apologize, sherlock, but I’m going to leave this little bit alone. It seems like the best call to make, granted that Lando as presented in this movie could’ve been done better.

Thanks to all for the discussion, and I feel we’ve all expressed our opinions about it by now. Worth considering, at the very least.

I’ll admit it’s a fair point I hadn’t considered, though.

Hmm. I hadn’t even considered Lando might not have just been there. One thing that implies as much is his confidence in saying “it’s out in the desert where he left it,” like he sees it regularly or at least has recently.

Help me understand. How does that line improve Lando’s character? He’d be there regardless. The only difference is whether Leia texted him to let him know they’d be in his neck of the woods.

And removing the line establishing Leia knew where he was doesn’t require us to believe in a huge coincidence, either. They’re tracing Luke’s steps by being there, which is the same event that leads Lando to be there. Leia didn’t call to tell him to go there or anything in any version.

And it doesn’t make any difference in terms of why they’d choose to follow the stranger, as the line doesn’t come until after they’ve all followed him into the trailer home.

JEDIT: You’re saying that line lets you suppose maybe Lando got a call from Leia and that’s why he is on that planet at that point in time?

I agree, however I think the viewer would include what I described once they learn what Luke was really doing.

I guess it’s about time for another “where are we” post. By my records, here’s everything currently outstanding. Things that, if they were suddenly all turned in, I would begin encoding:

• Sherlockpotter’s idea to remove Lando line “Leia sent me a transmission” (I just haven’t done it yet)

• Depict Kylo’s TIE with a different color stripe after his first one gets blowed up (poppasketti working on it)

• Have Rey’s saber sputter or crap out a little at end of DSII duel (Movies Remastered working on)

• Have both sabers spark and smoke like it’s Friday night after Palpatine gets blowed up (Movies Remastered working on, or perhaps is finished)

• Pasaana puppet show with Luke being a legend (snooker and/or RogueLeader filming and compositing elements - will also need a vocal dub to replace the one or two lines with something about Skywalker)

• Remaining footage of the crackly blue saber (I believe Movies Remastered is helming the shots that weren’t already done by kewlfish or Luka Frik)

• Fixed Jedi haircut footage from jonh to then be run through by NeverAr for regrading

So clearly there’s still several things outstanding but they are being tracked and will all come together in time. For the thousandth time, you’re all awesome and it’s an ongoing privilege to steer us along.

As Luke uses the Force to raise his X-Wing for Rey on Ach-To, a door panel from his hut floats horizontally over to it.

I don’t feel like it’s a substantial issue. If I’m thinking like that I’d have an issue with the idea that his X-wing even works at all being dumped underwater like that for years.

Honestly, I don’t think anything we’d do to TLJ or TROS would really reconcile things anyway. Door panel aside, the plot of TLJ itself implies that Luke could not have flown his fighter, otherwise he would have to Crait. (Logistics or travel time be damned; Star Wars has always moved at the speed of plot.) This story necessity, moreso than the door, poses the incongruity.

I’ll put this under the category of “if anyone does want to produce this I’ll consider it but otherwise won’t think about again.”

An insert shot drawing attention to this strikes me as unnecessary. The Falcon get shot at and we find in the next sequence there’s something broken. I mean, it might not hurt if done in a way that feels organic. But it seems like a lot of effort for someone to go through.

When Zorri Bliss is revealed to be part of the enormous civilian fleet at the end of TROS, it is no longer Babu Frik that pops up in her fighter. Since Kijimi isn’t destroyed, the spot goes to Nambi Ghima.

Having Ben and Owen talk about Anakin “getting involved” would make the pedantic nerd in me very happy.

NeverarGreat said:

As for the discussion of the 2 vs 3 Mustafar establishing shots, I sometimes have to remind myself that the Yavin base in ANH got 8 consecutive establishing shots.

lol, played it in my head while making sound effect and counting on my fingers.

Thanks, Burbin!

I could take a lot of those. Man, what a difference a handful of those would make.

Congratulations, man! What an accomplishment!

I don’t think it’s necessary but I’d be interested to see how it shaped up if you pursue it. But I don’t foresee really going for it for this project.

I don’t think it’d be egotistic at all to use your name. You are putting your own words and spin on it more intimately than most fan editors can with that medium.

Ah, okay, gotcha. That could work fine. I can’t remember, but was that Finn line already in that scene or did you cull it from elsewhere?

That’s right, it’d take something compelling to crack it open again, as it accomplished everything I wanted it to.

That said, I don’t really see how or why it’d be important to shoehorn Snoke and Ben into the sequence.

Eyepainter said:

Make this the ending to Episode I:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HcRSmifnon0

Make all Sith die by their own hand. In ROTS, Dooku jumps off that balcony, only to land and cause his head to fall off. I guess Vader already does, and Palpatine in ROTJ doesn’t count anymore. Palpatine in TROS could fry himself perhaps, with Rey turning off her sabers as he keeps pouring the juice onto himself.

^ Looking forward to it, RogueLeader!

Sherlock, I see what you mean about Lando. But I think removing him taking out the trooper makes his introduction feel very strange. I’d expect Poe to say, “Hey we gotta get to our ship who are you?”

I like the idea of moving Rey’s death forward, however, aside from the seemingly large task of musical score, I’d hate to break it apart from Finn’s reaction. With what you suggest I imagine chuckling that Finn is sensing he’s once again been put in the friend zone in favor of Kylo Ren. Like he’s saying “Oh no, not this guy again. Get away from her why don’tcha.”

Burbin, would you mind sending me the shot you tweaked of Rey turning on her yellow saber?

Sherlock, I don’t see a lot of fruit in tweaking Lando. It could’ve been done better, but I think that would just muddy it further. Why do the heroes stop to follow this random guy for no reason when they were sprinting for the Falcon? Lando decided to give a care after being inspired by (Rey) Skywalker… I guess?

Hehehe