Vladius said:
Reposting my previous post
It’s a small Star Wars fan editing site where the majority of its existence was about fixing the prequels, with attention to detail. It existed long before huge youtube video essays. This is a repository of evidence proving a point, the over-reliance on CG effects and the rushed nature of the movies.
Thank you, Vladius. 👍
Also, the ‘Introduction’ in the OP of this thread, and the link in to the ‘mini-review’ of the ILM S2 documentary, do state the ‘two-fold’ reasons why I put this thread together…
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oojason said:
Also overlooked / omitted are the limitations or poor quality use of CGI in the Prequel Films themselves (+ lack of QC) - despite the doc more than willing to spend some time highlighting and underlining the limitations of practical effects around that era.
^ Edit: I created a thread - Poor quality CGI and CGI-affected shots & scenes in the Prequel Trilogy films… on this issue.
(there was a great old image-thread on here re PT CGI issues - though can’t find it anymore - so have created this centralised new one)
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oojason said:
Something the recent Season 2 ‘Light & Magic’ documentary never seemed to mention… was the poor quality CGI throughout the Prequel Trilogy films - along with the reasons for that. This was quite a jarring omittance by ILM / Lucasfilm - and very much in contrast to their highlighting and underscoring of the limitations practical effects (and the supposed end of practical effects) when CGI was starting to really take off at the turn of the century - as covered in Season 1 of their Light & Magic doc.
So, this is an attempt to demonstrate / highlight some of the issue-laden CGI scenes throughout the Prequels… and examine also why this likely occurred - all in one updated centralised thread (I just cannot locate the old image thread that attempted this).
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oojason said:
There used to be a great image thread from back in the day on here re PT CGI issues - though I can’t find it anymore - plus many of the image links have very likely broken over time (photobucket and other older defunct image sites) - hence this new ‘centralised’ thread.
Hopefully over time this may well become ‘a repository of evidence’ (and replace the old 2004-2006?(?) PT CGI image thread/posts I just cannot locate) - yet at the moment, for me, it is really a small collection of examples that stood out to me (plus why)… and now also from other members’ contributions on here (plus their reasoning), as well. Though if it is of use to others, or members looking at it that way (as a ‘repository of evidence’), or any other - like timdiggerm posted here, then… that’s great - nice one! 👍
Although I don’t want to confuse anyone thinking it is more than that - in this is by no means a ‘definitive / comprehensive list’…
oojason said:
The above 15 examples for each of the 3 PT films are my own personal take on some of the many scenes that stood out to me. It is by no means a ‘definitive list’ or even a ‘comprehensive list’ of substandard / noticeably poor CGI issues in the Prequels.
Everyone’s mileage may very much vary on just what constitutes poorly executed/affected CGI in the Prequel Trilogy films.
If some people don’t like this thread then… so be it. As stated in here before… there are many other threads on here to enjoy (or ignore). I’ve already answered some queries / issues (with info already posted in the OPs)… though if some people still have problems with this thread… then they’re free to start their own better / more-suited-to-their-own-tastes thread. Life is too short to go around in circles with those wilfully spending time in the weeds of something they obviously do not like. ¯|_ (ツ) _/¯
Plus, a number of other members seemingly enjoy this thread and / or have contributed to it - with thanks to everyone who has done so - it is very much appreciated. Obviously, my focus is with those who have something to add to the content & discussion.
Anyway, I’ve rabbited on for long enough and then some! To get back on topic…
If anyone has more examples of CGI issues / CGI-affected scenes from the Prequel Trilogy - and/or reasons or beliefs as to why there were seemingly so many CGI issues throughout the PT films (overuse of / overworked effects teams / not enough time / lack of Quality Control / or combinations of the aforementioned, and any other reasons etc)… please post them up in here. Thanks. 😃
A Mini-Index…
0️⃣ • Introduction
1️⃣ • The Phantom Menace
2️⃣ • Attack Of The Clones
3️⃣ • Revenge Of The Sith
4️⃣ • Your own irksome / noticeable / poorly executed CGI scenes & CGI-affected scenes from the Prequels…
The above 15 examples for each of the 3 PT films are my own personal take on some of the many scenes that stood out to me. It is by no means a ‘definitive list’ or even a ‘comprehensive list’ of substandard / noticeably poor CGI issues in the Prequels.
Everyone’s mileage may very much vary on just what constitutes poorly executed/affected CGI in the Prequel Trilogy films.
Please add your own problematic / poor CGI scenes / irksome CGI issues / any scenes I’ve overlooked… as well as your beliefs / reasoning as to why there were seemingly so many CGI issues throughout the PT films (overuse of / overworked effects teams / not enough time / lack of Quality Control / or combinations of the aforementioned, and other reasons etc)… in the thread, below…
- NeverarGreat | ROTS | notorious CGI moments when Anakin, Kenobi & Palpatine meet the politicians - #1. | link
- NeverarGreat | ROTS | notorious CGI moments when Anakin, Kenobi & Palpatine meet the politicians - #2. |link
- Mocata | AOTC | Clones cutting up fresh air and eating missing CGI food from their plates in the Kamino cantina. | link
- oojason | AOTC | awful looking unfinished CGI of the Chancellor’s office hallway. | link
- oojason | AOTC | Ki-Adi-Mundi’s lightsaber changes colours in the battle on Geonosis. | link
- Haarspalter | AOTC | ReShoot-Wig Obi-Wan walking through the awful looking CGI Jedi Temple hallway. | link
- oojason | AOTC | Mace Windu misses trying to deflect away a blaster bolt and gets shot! 😉 (misaligned CGI) | link
- oojason (all credit to Phase3) | TPM | Human actor blocking the CGI reflection from a blast door onto floor. | link
- Anakin94 | TPM | the poor CGI texture of RD-D2’s dome in the N-1 Starfighter when flying through space. | link
- oojason (all credit to Phase3) | TPM | Maul’s lightsaber blade is translucent / part disappears in many shots. | link
- oojason (all credit to Phase3) | TPM | Incomplete CGI makes it appear that Qui-Gon has sliced right through Maul! | link
- oojason (all credit to JoyOfEditing) | AOTC | CGI snafu between Capt. Typho’s arm & body for the length of the shot. | link
- oojason | TPM | Padmé’s ‘bulb’ dress is shown plugged into the wall; someone forgot to CGI-out the power cable? | link
- oojason | ROTS | 'The Force Ghost in The Machine’ - the mystery of a briefly appearing head in the end fight - solved. | link
- oojason | ROTS | Plo Koon’s CGI ship cockpit differs from the actual CGI ship model (interior to exterior)… | link
- oojason | AOTC | The CGI Textures Don’t Match Up In Attack Of The Clones - in the Geonosis battle scenes. | link