The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released) — Page 641

I feel like if you are playing into the Factory Reset 3PO, it has to be a line that is played straight, but is funny because it’s naive.

Trooper: What’s your operating number?

C-3PO: I am here to negotiate the release of a political prisoner named Chewie. (the trooper would start talking over him)

Trooper: Negotiate- what?

Then when Rey comes in guns blazing, you could even replace 3PO’s next line with:

C-3PO: Oh! That was rather aggressive.

A dumb reference, but maybe some deep recess of 3PO’s memory unit made that connection. A shorter version of that line could just be:

3PO: I am here to negotiate for Chewie.

And you could keep the trooper’s “The why are you- what?” like the same, but I like the idea of 3PO saying “Chewie” being why the trooper asks “what?”

Also, I think if you kept playing with this idea, you could change 3PO’s “Happily” line when they first land in the hangar with something more formal and straightforward. Or, just cut it out. I think at this point it makes sense not really refer to his emotional state this early after his memory wipe. It could be funny if we heard him start saying something like, “Excuse me, but this is very much against protocol…”
That would play pretty funny I think, especially coming off his previous line, “And I will be your protocol droid!”

I like the idea of 3PO thinking he’s there to negotiate peacefully, only to suddenly realize the humans are blasting their way through everything.

How does this sound: “I am here to negotiate for one ‘Chewie’”

That way he still remains an unknown to him without the line getting too long.

EDIT: Here is my favorite take of that line - https://drive.google.com/file/d/18MfDVaDKEUPDMfB_r9k39TtjFNjAetNZ/view?usp=sharing
I’d love for his follow up line to be a callback to episode II: “Oh my! That was rather aggressive for negotiations!”

Here’s how those might sound:
Prisoner: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ge8sl9N4hordqM5eE3SqIcvjfdtOTM6j/view?usp=sharing
Diplomacy: https://drive.google.com/file/d/14i-mztRuTquSLYgNxkETkzH6ZU723GEa/view?usp=sharing

The emphasis on “release” might make the first line too long, but I really liked the delivery of it otherwise. I’m having a hard time generating one that has the same delivery but less emphasis.

As for the final line, here it is if needed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13uX1vPD3zcp6ZzbwYhP1yVXkmFmQBjgm/view?usp=sharing

EDIT: Finally got a faster delivery that didn’t sound too bad - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vq85KwTXAPdqXfDZKFA59WiOKNigCKSc/view?usp=sharing

Hal 9000 said:

Hey that’s pretty cool! And if anyone would like to create such alternate audio tracks I’d be glad to include them and nudge them into sync with any future project updates.

How can we do that? We don’t have your editing cues. Would simply exchanging the dialogue audio track from the same type of source source in your editing software project (lets say you used the bluray audio track for the dialogue and I provide the german audio from my german bluray) result in something watchable?

Jar Jar Bricks said:

The emphasis on “release” might make the first line too long, but I really liked the delivery of it otherwise. I’m having a hard time generating one that has the same delivery but less emphasis.

As for the final line, here it is if needed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13uX1vPD3zcp6ZzbwYhP1yVXkmFmQBjgm/view?usp=sharing

EDIT: Finally got a faster delivery that didn’t sound too bad - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vq85KwTXAPdqXfDZKFA59WiOKNigCKSc/view?usp=sharing

These are sounding really good. Well done!

I was watching V2 of this edit last night for a lil May the Fourth celebration and I had a couple of ideas that I think might be worth thinking about:

• The opening crawl.
  As it stands the first paragraph of the opening crawl reads:

  Flames of rebellion burn across the galaxy. The tyrannical First Order has retaliated 
  by attacking any planetary system that supports their enemy.
  

  I would suggest changing it to:

  The spark of hope burns! Following the heroic sacrifice of Jedi Master Luke Skywalker, the tyrannical 
  FIRST ORDER silences endless acts of insurrection across the galaxy.
  

  Why?

  1. Because it sets up that Luke was directly responsible for inspiring the galaxy, which in turn sets up the puppet show, and more importantly the civillian fleet at the end.

  2. Mentioning that the First Order is silencing insurrection informs why Poe believes the galaxy has given up fighting when talking to Zorri. It also plays into the theme of “They win by making you think you’re alone”.

  3. The fact that the insurrection is ‘endless’ gives the First Order desperation, which adds motivation on why Kylo is so bent on finding help from the hidden power.

• Revert the way Mustafar was edited in V1, without Vader’s castle.

  Why?

  I know this will be an unpopular opinion but I think the inclusion of Vader’s castle offers more questions than answers for an unsupecting viewer. For one thing, we only see it in one shot and it’s not further explored in any way. We just see Kylo Ren kill people in a forest nearby and grab an evil artifact. The movie doesn’t explain the relationship between Vader and that artifact until much later in the movie, and when it does it’s only implied. Even then, the movie doesn’t explain the relationship between Vader and that castle. You have to fully rely on your knowledge from other media (not even the saga movies) to understand the significance of that castle. This is all to say, it’s a great shot conjured by this great community but I think it’s potentially confusing and arguably hurts the pacing.

• Add new AI voice of Rey that smooths transition from Palpatine smiling at being ask “Who is she?” to Rey floating in Ajan Kloss.

  Why?

  I’ve always felt it was weird to do a cut to black in Star Wars since I first saw TROS (although that is the least of its editing issues). Now that the question to “Who is she?” is followed by Rey floating and asking the Jedi to “Be with me”, I think we could take advantage of that black screen and add Rey saying something like “Masters. I’m the last of the Jedi. Please. I need your guidance. Be with me…” and then the rest of the scene plays out. This I think might help smooth the transition and thematically it also answers, in a way, Kylo Ren’s question of “Who is she?”. Well “the last of the Jedi” (even though I know they’re really refering to her lineage).

Anyway most of the other stuff is the AI voices previously suggested in this thread.

You know what, I never thought of it that way, but what you said actually makes perfect sense given what we know from just the film itself. He says to Kylo at the beginning, “Kill me, and my spirit will pass into you, as all the Sith live in me.” That sort of gives the impression that these cultists summoned the spirits of all the Sith from Force-hell and made them possess the body of a cloned Palpatine. So perhaps none of this was of his own doing, but rather entirely because Sith cultists saw the open power vacuum and leftover Empire ships and seized the opportunity.

I think v3 might help with this interpretation given the AI Poe dialog at the briefing. We shall see.

oviniboy said:

Hey, another thing, maybe I’m misremembering, but someone said something about using AI to give Lando and/or Maz an exchange about the Skywalker saber to fix the plot hole of “a good question for another time”, it is possible after all?

Nev has plans to explain this detail within TFA itself. In Rey’s vision the trailer footage of the saber handoff between Maz and Leia will be used with an AI Leia line: “Keep it safe, my old friend”.

I doubt an effective explanation would work in TROS.

I would love to expand on the idea of palpatine not really being himself but more of like a sith zombie. Would do wonders for the trilogy if that could be properly explained and understood within the confines of the movie itself.

For my “sign in” slot I’d ideally like to have AI Benicio Del Toro say the following: “Libertine, standing by. Living free, joining up!”

The Libertine is the ship DJ and gang stole in TLJ and I’d love to see some redemption for his character in this film even if its more of an easter egg. The second part is the inverse of his signature phrase: “Live free, don’t join.”

Here’s how that might sound as a whole (10,000+ tokens later, Benecio really needs to record better stuff lol):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LbKQjbFAcJh9AsLqkJcY3HZ7SStgIUL6/view?usp=sharing

Seeing as how it will be covered by music, sound FX, and other voices, I don’t think the mild audio issues on the latter half will be noticeable at all. But for something shorter and relatively flawless, I really like the sign in on its own:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cfmU0PslcZNqqwp6j1wwY1RbNUMKNWic/view?usp=sharing

I can DM you this stuff as well, Hal. The only reason I don’t want to submit my own voice is because once I hear it I would instantly be out taken of the movie experience haha. I’ve done theater a lot in my life, and I’m one of those people that can’t stand viewing their own performances.

Okay, I’ll send you something at some point this weekend! Just make sure it’s really buried in there haha.

I actually never recorded a line back when you asked for them. Any lines you would like to hear? I feel like I could literally say “Rogue Leader, standing by” and it could still work. 😂

Not sure if Rogue Squadron would still exist at this point though.

Interesting discussion on the Sith cult stuff. I have always liked the idea of “the powers that be” and the rich and powerful of the galaxy being held responsible for perpetuating the war. The Last Jedi sort of touches on that idea, and you do get a sense of that with a lot of corporations like the Trade Federation, the Banking Clan, etc. being involved in Palpatine’s conspiracy. Obviously Palpatine is the personification of evil and greed, but I like the idea of Palpatine being supported by a group of powerful individuals who benefit from the corruption. The original Star Wars novelization kind of suggests that idea as well, although Palpatine wasn’t described as an evil sorcerer at the time.

This might not be appropriate for the Hal series of edits, but it would be interesting if the prequels were reframed to show that the Trade Federation and the Kaminoans were actually in kahoots together with Palpatine to profit from the war, and the Separatist faction itself actually had noble goals.

In the OT, Palpatine’s creepy advisors could be somehow tied into this concept. And then, the hooded figures in TROS could be tied with that as well. Basically, the Sith cult would be tied to the concept of a secret society of the rich and powerful, like the Bohemian Grove. Perhaps this group could have a phrase or motto they could use, and we can hear it being said by the Nemoidians/Kaminoans when speaking with Sidious, the Emperor’s advisors in ROTJ, some of the rich people on Canto Bight, and the Sith cultists on Exegol.

EDIT: Maybe something like, “Long live the Sith”. Something that gives Hail Hydra vibes. Imagine hearing that phrase throughout the Saga, and then in TROS, you literally have a group called the Sith Eternal whose goal is to make the Sith live forever.