spoRv

There is also another thing that could improve quality; the "phase inversion trick" (more info here); the results are astonishing:

http://s22.postimg.org/vm22a3rn3/picture_5_X.png

actually it's really a trick; third image used two consecutive frames, but it gives you the idea; I think it could be possible to implement it in the software... maybe...

Good news! Now I have to open up one of my "spare" LD-V4300D, tap the RF out, NOT make a hole in the rear but use an unused BNC plug, then hope an old Intel E6400 dual core will suffice...

Posted before your answer... what's about this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201323856719

OK, did my homeworks, found this:

http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Cx88_devices_%28cx2388x%29

with a list of cx23880 (or, better, cx2388X) cards; made a quick ebay search, and found this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121582305967

what do you think?

No big problems with Ubuntu - I used it in the past; nor with command line - even if I prefer a simple GUI... about hardware modifications... ehr... do you think it's possible to use the AC3 RF output, with no mods? (I like to dream, sometimes...)

Can you list some cx23880 capture cards? I know I'm asking too much...

althor1138 said:

If I capture using my s315 and the ati theater750pcie it gives a really decent picture actually.  It looks about as good as capturing ntsc except at scene changes where it will blend a bit if the luma is similar. The extra resolution really helps alleviate rainbowing and twinkling star fields. I'll probably end up using software decoding for these though once it's fully developed since I can fully tweak every setting instead of letting the capture card decide.

...think if you could capture them with a PAL high-end laserdisc player, as good as HLD-X0! That's why is really probable that software decoding will be even better!

I'm sure we are talking about Happycube's work; is there available a version that a human being could use with Windows? (^^,)

And, what's about the hardware?

AntcuFaalb said:

msycamore said:

The coffret trilogie did go through DVNR like the Faces set but I guess it's the best set the PAL-system can offer.

I'm pretty sure it's:

1994 No DVNR: http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/31358/856235/Star-Wars:-Coffret-Trilogie:-Edition-Collector

1995 DVNR: http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/35598/168035/Star-Wars:-Coffret-Trilogie

 I "studied" both PAL and NTSC editions, and I discovered that the "pyramid" (can't remember if I found the name, or named it myself...) is DVNR-free, while all THX PAL has light DVNR, not even nearly to NTSC versions...

I think that if we set DVNR=0 to the "pyramid" set, and DVNR=100 for the DC (and Faces), the THX PAL versions should be set around 30 or 40, no more... there are only "traces" of it, and, with no direct comparison, one could argue there is no DVNR at all - as I did the first time I watched them...

msycamore said:

The pre-THX one might be free from DVNR but as far as I know that one used an atrociously bad master. I assume the one seen in this post...  http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Preserving-French-Original-Trilogy-ANH-V10-released-ESB-in-progress/post/577965/#TopicPost577965

...is the one you're referring to?

Yes, quality is quite low - apart the pink tint that, strangely, affects only parts of the movie, not all; maybe the only way to squeeze out more detail is the software decoder, because there are no high-end PAL laserdisc player, like HLD-X0 or X9, or even CLD-G7... the best we have is the Pioneer CLD-D925, that it's the PAL equivalent of CLD-606...

The chosen audio tracks present in the [spoRv] version are good, and I don't think they need to be replaced... am I wrong?

Few minutes after I read this thread, I noted that the movie was programmed for this evening; watching the trailer, it seemed colors were more "alive" than the comparison video, so I decided to record it.

Apart the fact that, thanks also to following posts, I discovered the youtube video was modified, I wanted to see with my own eyes...

So, the movie, watched on an old CRT SD TV set had good, vivid colors in almost all the shots, and the few which were dull had their reasons; I compared the HDTV with the BD 2D, and they are almost the same - the small differences are probably due to TV recompression problems...

At the end, there is no reason (IMHO) to make a project, even if I must admit I was tempted just the minute I watched that youtube video; reality is the color grading is much better than many other recent movies!

So, as the old Mulder was used to say, TRUST NO 1! I add: make your homework, try to find as much proofs as you can, and then, eventually, *think* to make a project! (^^,)

If someone needs the comparison shots, I'll be happy to post them, but not now, it's too late...

ExInpaint - avisynth filter

OK, a LOT of time is passed since my last post here, but yesterday I finally stumbled upon a good filter to wipe out the logo... done some tests, and this is really much better than the previous solution, and nearly perfect...

Thanks to everyone!

So, should I take the Shout as source for an eventual 2.0 version?

A movie color grade condensed in just one image:

http://moviebarcode.tumblr.com

the first thing I thought is “nice, but useless…” -  then I found this avisynth script:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?55754-quot-Bar-code-quot-images-for-famous-movies&p=731122&viewfull=1#post731122

and wasted two minutes to download and test it… then I realized a thing…
“what if we use this for a ‘fingerprint’ of the movies we are using?”
It could be useful to make comparison between a movie with different color grading at a glance!

An example from The Arrival - top IT DVD, bottom US BD (click for larger versions):

What do you think?

Spaced Ranger: BBBB!!!

...or, Bring Big Boobs Back!!! (^^,)

Agree 100%!

We should start a "Man of Steel regrading contest"! (^^,)

A thing that puzzled me is the fact that youtube comparison is linked by many sites, while other better, and finished, projects, made by members of this community, remain in the shadow...

@kk650: let's see who'll be able to finish it before the other! (^^,)

by the way, here you are the BD 3D Vs 2D:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/45349

Thanks Intruder!

Database updated.

Star Wars: SDTV & HDTV digital broadcast database - Updated: 2018-03-19 23:50 CET

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Star Wars - 1997 Special Edition - SDTV

Flunk - Beta Digicam (Broadcast source); English DD 2.0 256kbps, English DTS 5.0
notes: no subs at all; some garbage frames; image width wider than any SDTV and LD versions
EP IV - 1xDVD9 6.62GB
(EP V was announced, but should be confirmed; EP VI not available for sure)

G’Kar - Germany (Premiere); German DD 5.1, English DD 5.1, English DD 2.0
notes: German subs (in picture) for alien dialogs; pink blanket in some scenes
EP IV - 1xDVD5 3.71GB
EP V - 1xDVD5 3.78GB
EP VI - 1xDVD5 4.29GB

TB - Scandinavia (Canal+); English DD 2.0 192kbps
notes: no subs at all; pink blanket in some scenes
EP IV - 1xDVD5 4.45GB
EP V - 1xDVD5 4.37GB
EP VI - 1xDVD5 4.23GB

Reivax - France (Canal+); French DD 2.0, English DD 2.0
EP IV - 1xDVD

RaiTre - Italy (Rai Tre); Italian DD 2.0 384kbps
notes: Italian subs (in picture) for alien dialogs; aspect Ratio cropped to 2.0:1; EP IV has few garbage frames; EP VI missing few frames; completely different color grading from any other sources but 2004 DVD menus.
EP IV - 1xDVD5 4.11GB
EP V - 1xDVD5 4.15GB
EP VI - 2xDVD5 4.96GB

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Star Wars - Theatrical version SDTV

TB - Scandinavia (Canal+); English DD 2.0 192kbps
notes: no subs at all
EP I - 1xDVD5 - 3.99GB

ORF1 - Austria (ORF EINS); German MP3 2.0 192kbps
notes: German alien hardsubs in picture
EP I - 779MB mp4 file - 720x576 anamorphic AVC encoded

EP I -> Germany (Premiere) - to be confirmed
German DD 5.1

Star Wars - Theatrical version HDTV

EP I -> Austria (ORF 1 HD) - to be confirmed

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Star Wars - 2004 Special Edition HDTV (same as DVD)

Premiere - Germany (2007) - h264 25fps 1920x1088 eng+ger audio, eng comm.

• c-sw1h264/Star.Wars.I.The.Phantom.Menace.1080p.h264.dd51.de.en.dc.ts (17.78 GB)
• c-sw2h264/Star.Wars.II.Attack.Of.The.Clones.1080p.h264.dd51.de.en.dc.ts (18.42 GB)
• c-sw3h264/Star.Wars.III.Revenge.Of.The.Sith.1080p.h264.dd51.de.en.dc.ts (17.62 GB)
• c-sw4h264/Star.Wars.IV.A.New.Hope.1080p.h264.dd51.de.en.dc.ts (15.79 GB)
• c-sw5h264/Star.Wars.V.The.Empire.Strikes.Back.1080p.h264.dd51.de.en.dc.ts (16.61 GB)
• c-sw6h264/Star.Wars.VI.The.Return.Of.The.Jedi.1080p.h264.dd51.de.en.dc.ts (17.41 GB)

Sky - UK (2007) - h264 25fps 1920x1088 eng audio

• Star.Wars.Episode.IV.A.New.Hope.1977.H264.1080p.AC3.5.1-aB.ts (15.28 GB)
• Star.Wars.Episode.V.The.Empire.Strikes.Back.1980.H264.1080p.AC3.5.1.aB.ts (16.16 GB)
• Star.Wars.Episode.VI.Return.Of.The.Jedi.1983.H264.1080p.AC3.5.1-aB.ts (16.79 GB)

Sky - UK - h264 25fps 1920x1088 eng+fre audio & subs

• Star.Wars.Episode.I.La.Menace.Fantome.MULTI.1080p.HDTV.x264-HDF.mkv (17,93 GB)
• Star.Wars.Episode.II.Lattaque.Des.Clones.MULTI.1080p.HDTV.x264-HDF.mkv (17.93 GB)
• Star.Wars.Episode.III.La.Revanche.Des.Siths.MULTI.1080p.HDTV.x264-HDF.mkv (17.72 GB)
• Star.Wars.Episode.IV.Un.Nouvel.Espoir.MULTI.1080p.HDTV.x264-HDF.mkv (15.46 GB)
• Star.Wars.Episode.V.Lempire.Contre.Attaque.MULTI.1080p.HDTV.x264-HDF.mkv (15.68 GB)
• Star.Wars.Episode.VI.Le.Retour.Du.Jedi.MULTI.1080p.HDTV.x264-HDF.mkv (17.18 GB)

should be Sky & Premiere combinedcould be not re-encoded* h264 23.976fps 1920x1080

• Star.Wars.Episode.I.The.Phantom.Menace.1999.HDTV.1080p.mkv (18.98 GB = 19902683 KB)
• Star.Wars.Episode.II.Attack.Of.The.Clones.2002.HDTV.1080p.mkv (19.46 GB = 20402954 KB)
• Star.Wars.Episode.III.Revenge.Of.The.Sith.2005.HDTV.1080p.mkv (18.35 GB = 19239946 KB)
• Star.Wars.Episode.IV.A.New.Hope.1977.HDTV.1080p.mkv (17.17 GB = 18006355 KB)
• Star.Wars.Episode.V.The.Empire.Strikes.Back.1980.HDTV.1080p.mkv (18.43 GB = 19324258 KB)
• Star.Wars.Episode.VI.Return.Of.The.Jedi.1983.HDTV.1080p.mkv (18.53 GB = 19430153 KB)

Cinemax - US 2006 - MPEG2 29.97fps 1920x1080 eng audio

• Star Wars 4 A New Hope.ts (15.36 GB = 16110426 KB)
• Star Wars 5 The Empire Strikes Back.ts (16.52 GB = 17319140 KB)
• Star Wars 6 Return of the Jedi.ts (16.59 GB = 17399141 KB)

??? (probably Cinemax) - MPEG2 29.97fps 1920x1080

• Star.Wars.Episode.II-Attack.Of.The.Clones(2002).HDTV.1080p.ts
  a.k.a. StarWars_Episode II_1080p_Remux.ts (19.94 GB = 20908774 KB)

• Star Wars 3 Revenge of the Sith.ts (18.49 GB = 19392756 KB)

  not found:

• Star Wars 1 The Phantom Menace.ts

Premiere - Germany (2006)

• Star.Wars.Episode.4.Eine.Neue.Hoffnung.HDTV.1080i.H264.German.AC3.DL.mkv

  not found:

• Star.Wars.Episode.5.Das.Imperium.Schlägt.Zurück.HDTV.1080i.H264.German.AC3.DL.mkv

• Star.Wars.Episode.6.Die.Rückkehr.Der.Jedi-Ritter.HDTV.1080i.H264.German.AC3.DL.mkv

unknown (could be Sky)

• Star.Wars.Episode.I-The.Phantom.Menace(1999).HDTV.1080p.ts

• Star.Wars.Episode.II-Attack.Of.The.Clones(2002).HDTV.1080p.ts

  not found:

• Star.Wars.Episode.III-Revenge.Of.The.Sith(2005).HDTV.1080p.ts

Other:

Spike TV (2008) - all six episodes
Dish Network
Comcast - MPEG2 29.97fps 1920x1080
HBO - MPEG2 29.97fps 1920x1080

***** WARNING: RE-ENCODED!!! *** AVOID THESE *****

Star.Wars.Episode.I.The.Phantom.Menace.1999.1080p.HDTV.x264-hV
Star.Wars.Episode.II.Attack.Of.The.Clones.2002.1080p.HDTV.x264-hV
Star.Wars.Episode.III.Revenge.Of.The.Sith.2005.1080p.HDTV.x264-hV
Star.Wars.Episode.IV.A.New.Hope.1977.1080p.HDTV.x264-hV
Star.Wars.Episode.V.The.Empire.Strikes.Back.1980.1080p.HDTV.x264-hV
Star.Wars.Episode.VI.Return.Of.The.Jedi.1983.1080p.HDTV.x264-hV

Format : x264
Source : HDTV
Resolution : 1920x816
Audio : AC3 5.1 384 kbit/s English
Subtitles : English

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Star Wars - 2011 Special Edition HDTV (same as BD) EXCEPT Ep. IV

Sky Hits cable channel - Germany (may 2017)

• The_Phantom_Menace_1999_HDTV_UNTOUCHED_SkyGermany_H264_1080i_DD_de_eng_DISCO.ts (5.36GB)
• Attack_Of_The_Clones_2002_HDTV_UNTOUCHED_SkyGermany_H264_1080i_DD_de_eng_DISCO.ts (5.33GB)
• Revenge_Of_The_Sith_2005_HDTV_UNTOUCHED_SkyGermany_H264_1080i_DD_de_eng_DISCO.ts (6.42GB)
• A_New_Hope_1977_HDTV_UNTOUCHED_SkyGermany_H264_1080i_DD_de_eng_DISCO.ts (5.81GB)
• Return_Of_The_Jedi_1983_HDTV_UNTOUCHED_SkyGermany_H264_1080i_DD_de_eng_DISCO.ts (7.03GB)
• The_Empire_Strikes_Back_1980_HDTV_UNTOUCHED_SkyGermany_H264_1080i_DD_de_eng_DISCO.ts (5.58GB)
• The_Force_Awakens_2015_HDTV_UNTOUCHED_SkyGermany_H264_1080i_DD_de_eng_DISCO.ts (5.48GB)

Source: Sky hitc DVB-C
Video: AVC, 1080i 25fps 1920x1080 bitrate 5mbps avg 10mbps max
Audio: AC3 2.0 384kbps German, AC3 2.0 192kbps English
Subtitles: German hardcoded, crawler in German as well
Notes: no logo, bit-perfect capture
Notes: more info here http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1075989

HUGE THANKS TO disco4000, who has recorded the broadcast transmission!

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Star Wars - 2011 Special Edition HDTV (same as BD)

WOWOW - Japan (november 2016)

• Star.Wars.Episode.IV.A.New.Hope.1977.HDTV.MPEG2.1080i.AAC.5.1.WOWOW.m2ts (17GB)
• Star.Wars.Episode.V.The.Empire.Strikes.Back.1980.HDTV.MPEG2.1080i.AAC.5.1.WOWOW.m2ts (17.4GB)
• Star.Wars.Episode.VI.Return.Of.The.Jedi.1983.HDTV.MPEG2.1080i.AAC.5.1.WOWOW.m2ts (18.4GB)
• Star.Wars.Episode.VII.The.Force.Awakens.2015.HDTV.MPEG2.1080i.AAC.5.1.WOWOW.m2ts (20.2GB)

not recorded:

• Star.Wars.Episode.I.The.Phantom.Menace.1999.HDTV.MPEG2.1080i.AAC.5.1.WOWOW.m2ts
• Star.Wars.Episode.II.Attack.Of.The.Clones.2002.HDTV.MPEG2.1080i.AAC.5.1.WOWOW.m2ts
• Star.Wars.Episode.III.Revenge.Of.The.Sith.2005.HDTV.MPEG2.1080i.AAC.5.1.WOWOW.m2ts

Source : WOWOW HDTV
Video : MPEG-2, 1080i 29.97fps 1920x1080 bitrate 19.5mbps avg 35mbps max
Audio : AAC 5.1 48KHz Japanese vbr
Subtitles: Only for alien dialogs, hardcoded, EP IV in the lower black bar, EP VI in picture
Subtitles: EP VII all hardcoded, one line in black bar, top of the two lines in picture
Notes: Small WOWOW logo on top right black bar
Notes: Color grading: EP IV is different than Blu-ray; EP V VI VII are the same of Blu-ray
Notes: Crawl: EP IV Japanese intro and crawl, EP V English narrated, EP VI English with subs in picture
Notes: Original recorded files include SW specials and spots at the beginning and end
Notes: new files, cut and remuxed to m2ts with tsMuxer, containing only movie

HUGE THANKS TO MOLLY, who has recorded the broadcast transmission!

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Rogue One - A Star Wars Story

Source : НТВ-Плюс (NTV-Plus) HDTV
Video : AVC, 1080i 25fps 1920x1080 bitrate 7mbps avg, cropped to 1.78:1 but with a bit more image on top and bottom in comparison to blu-ray
Audio : AAC 2.0 44.1KHz Russian
Notes: full localization (crawl, title, text, hardcoded subtitles); English closing credits; “кинопремьера” logo on top left

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Some old WOWOW info - should apply to 2004 version, because was posted in 2010

： [名無し]さん(bin+cue).rar[] 投稿日：2010/08/22(日) 10:34:33 ID:NhXBMSwL0 [1/1回(PC)]
再放流お願いします。
サイズが大きいためか、抜けているところが多く完走しません。

(HDTV)(映画)(WOWOW)スターウォーズEP1(字幕).m2ts 拡散波動砲uYptl2LCGu 22,255,939,584 a65c83003a97269a463600a4fd57232884802a4b
(HDTV)(映画)(WOWOW)スターウォーズEP2(吹替え).m2ts 拡散波動砲uYptl2LCGu 23,366,719,488 33273a597f8a003d53ffc855388757b6f184828c
(HDTV)(映画)(WOWOW)スターウォーズEP3(吹替え).m2ts 拡散波動砲uYptl2LCGu 22,890,952,704 19bed94556bbcca61aba3359463e36f41f147d8c
(HDTV)(映画)(WOWOW)スターウォーズEP4(字幕).m2ts 拡散波動砲uYptl2LCGu 21,000,781,824 fd79e5f4e5b3e9733bc6ba0e8b06d3e5a04dcc95
(HDTV)(映画)(WOWOW)スターウォーズEP5(字幕).m2ts 拡散波動砲uYptl2LCGu 21,007,435,776 f0f8c31937dcd2acd1021611c2ee0c40a7a902fe
(HDTV)(映画)(WOWOW)スターウォーズEP6(字幕).m2ts 拡散波動砲uYptl2LCGu 22,681,411,584 64f6af9489e7162354d2e9a15de855959853284a

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I’m trying to find out which SDTV and HDTV versions of Star Wars are floating around the net, and to understand something more about them…

Some facts (and factoids) I found so far:

• OUT should be not available on digital form, but eventually only recorded on VHS, Betamax or Video 2000
• 1997 SE are available only on SDTV - PAL 720x576 25fps, don’t know if any NTSC versions are around; I recorded myself the RaiTre version - with a DVD recorder connected via a SCART RGB cable to a DTV decoder; quality is quite low, some garbage frames, cropped to 2:1, but if there is some interest I could think to upload it - screenshots of Reivax, Flunx, TB, GKar here: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Max-Rebos-97-SE-superset-preservation/post/323245/#TopicPost323245
• The Phantom Menace is available for sure in SD on the so-called “TB” version; according to this page - http://www.starwars-union.de/nachrichten/1113/StarWars_im_digitalen_Format - it was broadcasted in 2001 by German TV Premiere, in 16:9 and German 5.1 DD audio; it was also noted by a member of this forum that it was broadcasted by Austrian ORF1, first in SD, then in HD - no evidence of that until now
• It seems that no Attack Of The Clones and Revenge Of The Sith theatrical versions were never broadcasted - but I’ll be more than happy to discover the opposite!
• HDTV broadcasting valid resolutions are:
  1280x720 1280x1080 1440x1080 1440x1088 1920x1080 1920x1088
  so any resolution different from those ones are necessarily re-encoded; until now, available versions use only the last two ones - even if there seems that at least one 1280x1080 version was broadcasted
• HDTV valid video codecs are MPEG-2 and h264 (a.k.a. AVC); any other codec - like VC-1, WMV, DivX etc. are necessarily re-encoded
• HDTV valid audio codecs are AC3, MP2, AAC; any other codec - like DTS etc. are necessarily re-encoded
• HDTV max average video bitrate is around 19mbps; the 30+GB floating some times ago may be recorded from cable TV, or re-encoded; actually, the biggest file size, including audio track(s), is around 20GB, while some lower bitrate versions are around 10GB
• Usually HDTV broadcast have some kind of logo but, as far as I know, it seems there is no trace in any known available versions, so it means that for some particular reason these had no logo at all, or the logo was removed, and so they should be necessarily re-encoded
• The only “untouched” HDTV file - recorded bit-perfect from a SAT or DTV PC card - has a .ts file extension (both for MPEG2 and h264); but .mkv or .mp4 could be found - it’s possible to mux untouched video and audio streams in these container, and add also further audio and/or sub tracks
• HDTV versions use the same masters of the 2004 DVD SE; so, they are NOT the same versions found on BD - EXCEPT for the new WOWOW recordings
• Video quality could range from fair to good, but not as good as the BD - due to lower HDTV bitrate; but the BD is DVNR’d so some shots/scenes could be better on HDTV than BD
• Usually BD has a bigger frame size, while sometime the opposite is true:
  http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/99096
  http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/90179
• HDTV may have different cropping and color grading:
  http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/123357
• Some versions may have glitches, some not (note the trousers):
  http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/123360
  http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/123361
  http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/123362
• Here you are a screenshot gallery of German Premiere HDTV original trilogy - even if the site claims pictures are from Cinemax, they are NOT, as you can see the German crawl:
  http://stormtrooperguy.com/gallery/index.php?cat=20

Notes:

• some file size were in GiBibyte, so they were converted using 1GiB=1.074GB

Of course I know both websites - Blam1 and VideoCollector - but I needed a "fast'n'dirt" site to find ALL Star Wars laserdiscs... without having (at the time) the possibility to add a search feature, I think that it's still a good thing for the user to choose how to display the titles.

@VideoCollector: I strongly hope you'll find some (a lot of, really) time and patience to add all the pictures of the missing titles to your laserdisc section!

@Jetrell Fo: "Spartans never retreat! Spartans never surrender! Go spread the word." (^^,)

Thanks to everyone!

Behodar said:

Little typo: On the disc details pages, "length" is misspelled.

Oops... happens (almost) all the time (**_)

Corrected, thanks!

A 8GB would retain (obviously) the color regrade, but NOT (or, at least, not all) the grain - according to various tests I made with grain plate; I'm sure kk will agree with me... just my 2c!

It's often difficult to find out which is the most *right* color grading between two versions, but here we have at least six different ones...

What could be the *less wrong* color grading? (^^,)

Zyrother said:

Which Laserdisc set is better? The 1993 set, or the 1995 THX ones? I heard the 95 ones are merely the 93 discs in different packaging. But I also heard they did some minor improvements as with the 95 'Faces' VHS set. Cant verify which is true.

From my own post (found here):

1. DVNR-free + no white clipping - NTSC Japan Special Collection, NTSC US Special Widescreen Edition, PAL french "pyramid" boxset, PAL german Silver Screen edition (some with the "incredible shrinking ratio" problem)
2. Light DVNR + white clipping - PAL french THX subtitles, PAL french THX dubbed, PAL german THX, PAL spanish THX
3. Strong DVNR + white clipping - NTSC US and Japan Definitive Collection, NTSC US "faces", NTSC Japan Collector's Set - also GOUT PAL and NTSC DVDs of course...

FreaQ said:

you can't use any german release from DD as a color reference.

Are you talking about the DVD or the BD?

I compared just the first image with V5, and I must admit I prefer the V5... it seems to me more detailed... maybe with other images the new V7 could be better, but I'm too lazy to do other comparisons by myself! (^^,)