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#1336926
Topic
Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
Time

Anchorhead said:

oojason said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m1IX0k7Dak - at the IGN youtube channel : starts at 26m 45s into the video.
 

Should be fun - and a chance for people to ask about the re-shoots, deleted scenes, was/is there a ‘Director’s Cut’, will there ever be a decent length documentary about the making of the film, etc? - and maybe even get an answer…
 

I sure hope that’s available after the fact (about to head out on a motorcycle ride). I would be interested to hear what went on in the reshoots. For the record, I love the film and have no problem with what we got. The ending/plans transmission/etc works for me just fine.

I suppose I’m more interested only because it’s been so guarded. They’ve been more open with the behind the scenes disaster that was Solo.

The full video is still up at the above link mate (I haven’t had chance to watch it myself as yet).
 

There is also a 10 minute ‘highlights video’ of the whole thing at IGN’s youtube channel, here:-

Star Wars Writers Reveal Hidden Secrets of Rogue One

 

Hopefully Gareth Edwards himself may give us more information in the future - whenever he is allowed to / if he is interested in talking about it?

I certainly hope he does… 😃

 


 

The Beauty Of Rogue One’…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnpCiFq88Ng - a 3 minute video at the The Beauty Of youtube channel.

 

 

Rogue One | Rebellions Are Built on Hope’…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2UtjmV-EIo - a 4 minute video at the Skywalker Edits youtube channel.

 

 

Star Wars: Rogue One - Sacrifice’…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hrz-7W-fTA - a 5 minute video at the Jonde youtube channel.

 

 

The Rebel: A Tribute to Cassian Andor, Portrayed by Diego Luna’…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBD_AJLk554 - a 3 minute video at the Skywalker Edits youtube channel.

 

 

20 Times K2SO “Forced” You To Laugh’…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Q7EpRDBGY - a 5 minute video at the Next Of Ken youtube channel.

 

 

Rogue One - A Star Wars Story: K2SO - The Droid Featurette’…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz8oWXfmdD0 - an 8 minute video at the mranderson00001 youtube channel.

 

 

15 Minutes of Star Wars Battlefront Rogue One Gameplay’…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od5RUE5UZGk - a 15 minute video at the IGN youtube channel

 

 

Why I Love Rogue One’s Characters (Merrick, Melshi, Sefla, and more!)’…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtuxcrFa9xc - a 3 minute video at the EC Henry youtube channel.

 

 

#CreateCourage - Rogue One: A Star Wars Story’…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZC4mXaosxM - a 2 minute video at the globeth youtube channel.

 

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#1336339
Topic
Flash Gordon Rumor - now a 'general discussion' thread for Flash Gordon
Time

Unfortunately I don’t think there has been a fan edit for the 1980 version of Flash Gordon (here or elsewhere) - though I hope to be wrong on that.

Yet there are a few fan edits for other incarnations of the films knocking around online - mostly based on the 1930’s versions.

If this new 4K release of the 1980 film has any additional deleted scenes or other BTS footage included in it… they could help make for an intriguing Edit (though I love the film as it is - faults, cheese, ham, fun, pumping soundtrack and all 😃)
 

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#1336265
Topic
Flash Gordon Rumor - now a 'general discussion' thread for Flash Gordon
Time

A remastered 4K release of Flash Gordon (1980) coming soon (in June/July 2020, apparently)…

 
‘Flash Gordon is returning to UK cinemas in May’ from FilmStories (back in early March) - obviously the cinema re-release won’t be happening given recent world events. But a 4K remaster release for the 40th anniversary as mentioned in the above article? Bring it on!
 

Also…

bluray•com’s ‘Flash Gordon 4K UHD (1980) (40th Anniversary Edition)’ discussion thread

bluray•com’s ‘Flash Gordon 4K Blu-ray’ info / overview thread

https://www.cultura.com/flash-gordon-1980-4k-steelbook-5053083216047.html

https://www.kicks.com.au/product/flash_gordon_4k_ultra_hd_blu_ray_uhd

https://4k-ultra-hd.fr/film-blu-ray-ultra-hd-4k/536-flash-gordon.html - has a release date of 24th June
 

Really hoping this new 4K release has both director Mike Hodge’s and Brian Blessed’s respective commentaries from the 25th Anniversary / Silver Edition DVDs. And the new 4K remaster is going to get the love and attention it so deserves (if it is the same guys who did the recent John Carpenter set… then it should be!)
 

Post
#1336154
Topic
<strong>Coronavirus</strong> (COVID-19) Pandemic thread - <strong>relevant political discussion allowed</strong> in here
Time

SilverWook said:

Someone please tell me the plan to reopen beaches in Florida today is some kind of sick joke?

Wow. You guys just had circa 2,500 recorded deaths in the US today alone, and apparently not even close to reaching the top of the curve?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

And some beaches are opening back up? Gyms too? That is fucked up - not only in the potential for further spreading of the virus - but also the mixed message it sends to people.

 


 

NHS staff told ‘wear aprons’ as protective gowns run out’:-

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/nhs-staff-to-be-asked-to-treat-coronavirus-patients-without-gowns

The Government, despite lip service and platitudes, has not done anywhere near enough to protect front-line staff in hospitals - let alone staff at care homes, hospices and connected services etc… and that’s before even reaching other emergency services and other essential workers.
 

'Coronavirus: Leaked email reveals NHS hospitals will not have enough protective gowns for months:-

‘Most’ to run out this weekend as doctors and nurses asked to treat patients without gowns

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-nhs-matt-hancock-email-protective-gowns-masks-a9471616.html

 

From 2 days ago…

NHS and care workers may be asked to reuse PPE, No 10 confirms(to reuse single-use PPE):-

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/15/ppe-could-be-reused-as-last-resort-says-leaked-phe-document

 

Plus, we’re still nowhere near doing enough testing in the UK…

’No 10 says UK on track for 100,000 tests a day despite current low total’

Figures show less than a fifth of target figure for coronavirus tests are being carried out

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/13/britain-on-target-for-100000-coronavirus-tests-a-day-says-no-10

 


 

'Doctors, nurses, porters, volunteers: the UK health workers who have died from Covid-19:-

A project to remember those who lost their lives working in hospitals, surgeries and care homes during the coronavirus outbreak

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/16/doctors-nurses-porters-volunteers-the-uk-health-workers-who-have-died-from-covid-19 (this article will be updated as and when)
 

^ NursingNotes•com’s Memorial of Health & Social Care Workers taken by COVID-19 record, tribute & memorial is also similar.

 
 

Fated-Dualist said:

This is from twitter about the NHS (in the UK every Thursday at 8pm many people go to and open their front doors and clap in support, unity and thanks for the NHS), though you don’t have to be a twitter member to watch it:-

‘This is unbelieveably good. Share this across the length and breadth of this country. #YouClapForMeNow’…

https://twitter.com/MrPranPatel/status/1250167541177225221 (with 2 minute video)

^ Coronavirus: ‘You clap for me’ film celebrates ethnic minority workers - at the BBC

 

I hope people really do remember this, mate.

And also the 10 years of needless and idealogical cuts and austerity which has significantly weakened the health service, social care, and many other branches of public services.

 


 

SilverWook said:

oojason said:

ray_afraid said:

Not necessarily ready to go back to work… But I’m certainly ready to turn the money faucet back on.
Anybody need a haircut?

Do you do home visits? I’m in all day mate;) At the start of the lockdown I had the ‘Donald Sutherland as Oddball from Kelly’s Heroes’ look - now it it is a maze-like multi-dimensionable ball of hair - would like a short back and sides!

Will tip, provide quality music and booze (am not sure as to the quality of the booze) 😉
 

Weird you should mention that. I dreamt we were hanging out together a couple weeks ago, and you looked exactly like Oddball. Why we were partying in what looked like a bombed out brick factory I have no idea. 😉

I did somewhat resemble Oddball until recently - though the beard came off a few weeks ago, and the magic went… 😉

‘a bombed out brick factory’? Sounds like a mod-shelter party to me! Bringing the booze 🍻 😃
 

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#1336004
Topic
Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
Time

Gothamknight, once again…

Please learn to edit your posts (to merge them into one / fewer posts), thank you.
 

From the Fan Edit / Preservation Forum Rules and FAQ:-

“Do not double-post (i.e. make two posts in a row in the same thread). Use the EDIT button instead.”
 

^ we give a fair bit of leeway on this - but to post 6 consecutive posts, then 9 consecutive posts, then another 6 consecutive posts, ignore the mod request to please stop and learn to edit / merge your posts, then another 8 consecutive posts, then another 3 consecutive posts…

I strongly suggest you stop.
 

You also have a PM which requires your attention on another matter.
 

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#1336002
Topic
What's everybody's favorite Original Trilogy movie - Star Wars, Empire, or Jedi?
Time

Robby24 said:

The 8th episode is very good! Yes, no doubt, I agree that the stupid line of love between Rose and Finn was generally useless, but otherwise everything is just fine.
And how are lightsaber battles ??? Delight! I looked at it just was afraid to blink! All this acrobatics and simplicity of the previous trilogies are suppressed by the epic and realism of these fights, for me personally. Kylo is a terrific character, the best in SW, I really want to believe that in the end he will straighten his brain 😃 I am very sorry for him if they open the poor man …
And for me, this trilogy remains the best and SW will never die. The eighth episode is not like any previous one, and it’s great!

I think you may be in the wrong thread mate 😃

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#1335776
Topic
Star Wars DVD Covers
Time

CourtlyHades296 said:

Are there any custom covers for Empire of Dreams? I got a disc only copy in a lot on eBay and would like a cover for it.

There is a decent German language cover here (only German language on the back cover - the rest is in English):-

^ from https://dvdcover.com/star-wars-empire-of-dreams-2004-r2-german

 

This is from part of a boxset - though may be okay if you can do something with the spine?:-

^ from http://www.hirescovers.net/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=25917

 

and this looks quality for a possible front cover (if you wanted to put together something yourself / merge it one of the above covers etc?):-

 
 


 
 

Some of Harmy’s Despecialized Edition covers and plex-style posters…
 

and

 

An Index & Help Thread for Case Covers, Disc Labels, and Fan Art… has links to countless more Despecialized Edition covers.

 


 
 
Download links to some OT members’ cover collections:-

Rikter - 1.44 gb Star Wars Cover collection disc: https://mega.nz/folder/0PFRzYpC#DLtVxS3gT3ikn67Qo5SbVw

Jetrell Fo - 1.141gb Star Wars cover art collection: https://mega.nz/folder/1HVyDSJC#9S8hU-cD4QjD1WtjN5wZeA

oojason - 1.86gb Star Wars cover art collection: https://mega.nz/folder/JfUTwACb#F-B4a_-oJrLTbP7h0KHw8Q

doubleKO - 1.92gb Star Wars poster collection: https://mega.nz/file/5pIRESgB#Tj34Urf-lJDHVVYHozwmP1MWr_EOW0mMD-l59r0CTv4

SkyderHouseMafia - 6+gb Star Wars cover & poster collection: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_-rqzQ3oot8opx8URrTJHSDyQ9LLUZ09

 

Harmy’s Blu-Ray and other HD box size STAR WARS covers thread.

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#1335774
Topic
<strong>Coronavirus</strong> (COVID-19) Pandemic thread - <strong>relevant political discussion allowed</strong> in here
Time

ray_afraid said:

Not necessarily ready to go back to work… But I’m certainly ready to turn the money faucet back on.
Anybody need a haircut?

Do you do home visits? I’m in all day mate;) At the start of the lockdown I had the ‘Donald Sutherland as Oddball from Kelly’s Heroes’ look - now it it is a maze-like multi-dimensionable ball of hair - would like a short back and sides!

Will tip, provide quality music and booze (am not sure as to the quality of the booze) 😉
 

Seriously - am hoping you’re able to work safely soon, man.

 

ps - you’re looking good Duracell, looking good 😃

 


 

Coronavirus: Capt Tom Moore finishes NHS fundraiser as it tops £13m’:-

A 99-year-old war veteran has walked 100 laps of his garden to raise more than £13m for the NHS

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52303859
 

https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/tomswalkforthenhs - at £13.5m at time of posting here (2602% of original goal)
 

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#1335685
Topic
Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
Time

Star Wars Live Q&A: Rogue One Sync Up w/Gary Whitta and Chris Weitz’:-

IGN has assembled something pretty special for our fourth episode: a watch-along of Rogue One: A Star Wars Story with writers Gary Whitta and Chris Weitz!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m1IX0k7Dak - at the IGN youtube channel : starts at 26m 45s into the video. (2h 30m long)
 

Should be fun - and a chance for people to ask about the re-shoots, deleted scenes, was/is there a ‘Director’s Cut’, will there ever be a decent length documentary about the making of the film, etc? - and maybe even get an answer…
 

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#1335614
Topic
What set of the official retail releases to buy, so I can acquire fan projects?
Time

As ChainsawAsh stated - ‘The version you linked will be fine for all current Prequel Trilogy & Original Trilogy projects’.

IF you’d like to acquire Sequel Trilogy projects too… then yotsuya’s recommendation of the ‘Skywalker Saga’ set on blu ray will suffice - or buy the Sequel Trilogy blu rays individually - whichever you prefer.

(If you have a 4K tv then you may wish to opt for the 4K UHD versions of the films? It is up to you.)

 

Fan Edit / Preservation Forum Rules and FAQ

‘No 6. Before obtaining any fan edits, you must be in ownership of the official retail release.’

^ So owning the official digital downloads of the films is also acceptable for acquiring the respective fan projects too.
 

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#1335602
Topic
<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
Time

The Mandalorian eight-episode docuseries coming to Disney+’:-

https://ew.com/tv/the-mandalorian-docuseries-disney-plus
 

A snippet from the linked article…

‘Titled Disney Gallery: The Mandalorian, the show is billed as “an unprecedented look at the making of the series … each chapter explores a different facet of the first live-action Star Wars television show through interviews, never-before-seen footage, and roundtable conversations hosted by [executive producer] Jon Favreau. Topics this season include the filmmaking process, the legacy of George Lucas’ Star Wars, how the cast brought the characters to life, the series’ groundbreaking technology, the artistry behind the show’s practical models, effects, and creatures, plus the creative influences, the iconic score, and connections to Star Wars characters and props from across the galaxy.”’

 

https://twitter.com/disneyplus/status/1250408537945235456

‘Pull back the curtain on #TheMandalorian. Disney Gallery: The Mandalorian, an eight-episode documentary series, starts streaming on May the 4th, only on #DisneyPlus.’
 

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#1335355
Topic
Are there any services for Disc and Case Insert ART printing as single copies
Time

Hi ImagineEdits5 - the An Index & Help Thread for Case Covers, Disc Labels, and Fan Art… has some useful pointers and links for helping to get various artwork printed out for use - including disc art.

Also linked within the Index is a really kind offer by Captain_Danielsan, a UK member on here, who offers a superb at-cost printing service (plus postage and packing)…

Whether he is still offering this service I don’t know (especially in these coronavirus pandemic times) - but is certainly worth asking.
 

Your local independent print shop / printers may also be able to help you out (when they are back open) - a fair few smaller print shops do have printers which are able to print to disc - and can be great sources of info, advice and help.

The now-defunct Staples chain store used to be a good bet is you were polite with the staff (especially at quiet days/times) - maybe the same still applies for other larger print chains / office suppliers who operate a printing service?
 

Good luck with it mate.
 

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#1335275
Topic
<strong>Despecialized Editions</strong> by Harmy : Index of 'How-To's &amp; Help' Threads | Index of 'General Despecialized Threads' | ‘Where are they? And how do I get them?’ mega-merge thread...
Time

 

These should prove of some assistance for seeking fan projects in general on here…
 

Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within… ❕

About | Help | OT.com Forum Rules and Guidelines | Fan Edit / Preservation Forum Rules and FAQ

How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com - some info & answers to members’ queries | The General Assistance section.
 

A link to ‘Where is the site Search Bar? / How to search for projects, information, or discussion threads on OriginalTrilogy.com’.
 

I have found a Fan Edit / Preservation Project I am interested in - but don’t know how to get / acquire / download it?
 

The various pinned Index Threads located in the relevant site sections also contain helpful and useful information too:-

An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Star Wars Preservations
An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Star Wars Fan Edits and Other Projects
An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Preservation of Other Properties
An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Fan Edits & Projects for Other Properties

 

 

 
These should prove of some assistance for those specifically seeking Harmy’s Despecialized Editions

 

 

The three main Despecialized Edition threads on the OT•com, by Harmy himself - where information is in abundance, along with the history and process of the project is also contained, and many many questions having been already answered:-

Star Wars - v2.7 is the latest version

Empire Strikes Back - v2.0 is the latest version

Return Of The Jedi - v3.1 is the latest version

 
 

The Ultimate Introductory Guide - a most helpful guide by HanDuet; a ‘must read’ for anyone interested in the Despecialized Editions.

 

Some info & help for Harmy’s Despecialized Editions of the Original Trilogy… also has a few more options.

 

Harmy also has some useful and informative social media channels, here - Facebook : Youtube : Twitter : Instagram

 
Wikipedia page for the ‘Harmy Despecialized Editions’: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmy’s_Despecialized_Edition

 

A little patience and effort can go a long way on here - good luck with it…

 

2024 Edit: The Despecialized Editions - along with a number of other projects - are now available via in the following…

📍 A few available Original Trilogy Preservations - from a long time ago . . . . 📍

 

 

 




 

 

 

Another popular unaltered theatrical edition project for the Original Trilogy on here - TN1’s 4K77 / 4K80 / 4K83

 
 

 
 

For some useful information…

 

TheStarWarsTrilogy•com’s 4KXX Project Pages: 4K77 : 4K80 : 4K83

TheStarWarsTrilogy•com’s : Website : Youtube : Twitter : Facebook : Forum

 
 

 
^ 4K80 Is Finally Done! - at TheStarWarsTrilogy•com (12th February, 2024 - the whole Original Trilogy by TN1 is now complete!)

 

 

 

For invitation codes… to the TheStarWarsTrilogy.com Forums:-

 

 
⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️

 
 

↓ There are invitation codes to the TSWT forums in each of the Opening Posts of these 3 threads below. Kudos to Williarob ↓

 

OT•com threads: OriginalTrilogy.com Page for 4K77 : OriginalTrilogy.com Page for 4K80 : OriginalTrilogy.com Page for 4K83
 

^ There are invitation codes to the TSWT forums in each of the Opening Posts of these three threads. Many thanks to Williarob ^

 
 

⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️
 

 

 

 

TheStarWarsTrilogy•com forum itself also has the information required on how to join the forum linked to on their front page… literally for anyone and everyone to see:-

Looking for Project 4K77, 4K80, 4K83, etc? & You need to register before you can see these forums
 

^ Information and instructions on how to acquire the projects located on there is also available.

Note: these projects, like many others, are also likely to be found on public torrent sites - and also on the likes of Usenet etc.

 
 

The Some info & help for TN1’s 4K77, 4K80 & 4K83 projects of the Original Trilogy… - in the General Assistance section of the site may also be of interest. There are also threads for some other popular projects - located in the General Assistance section too.
 

An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Star Wars Preservations also has more info and projects related to the 4KXX Trilogy.

 
 

Info for Project 4K97 - the 1997 Special Editions, can be found on the TSWT forums - http://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com

Info for 4K99, 4K02, & 4K05 - the Prequel Trilogy, can be found on the TSWT forums - http://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com

 
 


 
 

From early in December 2020… the invitation codes required to join TheStarWarsTrilogy•com forums have been clearly signposted to in here - along with other useful information and links on the 4KXX projects.

This thread - TheStarWarsTrilogy.com - and invite codes to it (read the actual thread before posting!) - makes it quite clear on what to do and how to get the invitation codes to join TSWT forums. To not read the thread for the actual information people are looking for - and then lazily post a request for the invite codes instead… is baffling to say the least.

Anyone posting in this thread after December 2020 - for whom English is their native language - and still asking for invite codes… I don’t know what to think… Trolls? Spammers? Spambots? AI spam? WUMs? Idiots? Entitled? Lazy? Ignorant? Sheep?

If you were on the site staff of TSWT forums you’d likely think twice before letting anyone requesting links in here join their forums… if people asking for codes in here won’t read and follow the simple information provided… how on earth are they going to be able to follow the instructions and information needed to acquire the 4KXX projects on TSWT forums?

 
 

Information on the 4K77, 4K80 and 4K83 projects have also been listed up across the OT•com (along with some other popular fan projects) for some time, in…
 

Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within

About

Help

❕ ‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + member FAQs ❕
 

❕ An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Star Wars Preservations… ❕

^ and also in the other 3 ‘Project Index & Help’ threads, in the ‘Fan Project’ forums:-

Star Wars Fan Edits : Preservation of Other Properties : Fan Edits and Projects for Other Properties
 

In OT•com threads: OriginalTrilogy.com Page for 4K77 : OriginalTrilogy.com Page for 4K80 : OriginalTrilogy.com Page for 4K83

And also here - Some info & help for TN1’s 4K77, 4K80 & 4K83 projects of the Original Trilogy…

…So why there are so many threads along the lines of “Where is 4K77/80/83?” (who often post ‘I’ve looked everywhere and I just can’t find them’ ™) is also baffling. There seems to be a number of people not even trying to put in any effort to find or acquire the projects themselves - and are instead simply expecting others - the kind & helpful members on here - to do it for them.
 

The ❕ ‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + member FAQs ❕ thread also features a section on how to search for projects on here, on how to try and acquire them, and other useful info.

 


 

Some “Where is 4K77/80/83 / How do I get them / Give me info” threads - without looking in / for the actual project threads:-
 

info on 4K77
4K77
4K77 and 4K83 (DRM)
I can’t download the 4K77 edition
getting the 1080p versions of 4K77 & 4K83 - please
Star Wars 4k77? More info please…
Anyone know when 4K83 releases?
Newest versions of 4KXX projects
Download link for 4k80 & 4k83 ? - in the ‘Star Wars Fan Edits’ section
Links or how to download 4K77 and 4K83
Little help how can I download the 4k77 version?
I can not download 4k77, please help me.
Star Wars - 4K77 v1.4 [DNR] With Color Grading Available?
4K - 77 - 83 - How could I have missed that?!?!
4k83 Version Comparisons with pictures or video clips?
Google Drive download link for 4k83?
4K77, 4K80, 4K83, and Harmy’s Projects
Newbie here (35mm projects)
Need help looking for 4K77-4K83
starwarstrilogy.com invite codes?

 
^ many more have been deleted to the Trash Compactor; including more of the insulting / entitled / ‘go **** yourselves’ threads.
 

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#1335135
Topic
Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
Time

tobiwan1984 said:

EddieDean said:

tobiwan1984 said:

StarkillerAG said:

DominicCobb said:

StarkillerAG said:

DominicCobb said:

Get over it.

We’re in a fan edit thread. Not getting over things is the only way we can fix them. I think he should be allowed to criticize. Whether his criticisms are valid is another question, but you shouldn’t just try to shut him up like this.

In fairness, it’s not just that his criticisms are bad, but there’s no way to accomplish what he wants. In which case my suggestion is legitimately the best thing he can do.

You’re probably right. His criticisms do belong more in the rewrite thread.

Honestly, I think I can say whatever I want to say as long as I don’t offend anyone…

You’re welcome to think and say whatever you want, even if it does offend people, so long as it doesn’t break the rules. So by all means, you do you. However, since you mention offence-

I’m offended. You use the phrase ‘identity politics’ twice.

Identity politics is a political approach based on people prioritizing the concerns most relevant to their particular racial, religious, ethnic, sexual, social, cultural or other identity. It typically aims to reclaim greater self-determination and political freedom for marginalized groups through understanding each interest group’s distinctive nature and experiences of injustice.

Not one iota of that happens in Disney Star Wars, so I have to read from this that by ‘identity politics’ you mean you object to the prevalence and/or roles of women in these films.

I’ll say it again: Representation is not politics. Representation is not an agenda.

There are plenty of problems to have with these films. There are plenty of problems to have with the power Rey has without training. None of those problems come from the identities - gender or otherwise - of the characters. None of those problems come from the identities of the members of the production teams.

I’m making an assumption there so forgive me if I’ve interpreted your choice of words unfairly. But if not-

Strong women exist. Female characters who serve something other than male characters’ romantic subplot exist. They’re not a threat to you. Get over it.

I won’t say sorry, but I get the point. I don’t want to be political, it is Lucasfilm and Kennedy herself who went political with Episode VIII. To use a female hero was a choice that was clearly taken due to the fact that they wanted to push a more “progressive” approach to “representation”. As I said, I liked the choice for the characters and I like Daisy Ridley, she pulls it off apart from the issues in the screenplay, but that is not on her! The “Lesbian” kiss in TROS is identity politics it is there for “representation” and its only purpose is to alienate the audience. It is brief, I am not offended directly by it, but it serves no purpose and the scene is cut out in various countries and they knew this would happen.
And then we had Admiral Holdo, coming out of nowhere and her basic role was to criticize and dismiss Poe. She clearly was there to call all men idiots. See I didn’t do that not did anyone back in the old days write Leia running around calling males names.
But right, no politics on my behalf. To me the only thing important is that Rey needs to have a believable transition to being the super talented Jedi she is and making her a descendent of someone’s bloodline was the naturally easiest way to do so. But I object her being a Palpatine since Palpatine was designed to be the evil in the galaxy you could of course argue that the story choice in IX was radical and Rey turning the Palpatine bloodline to something good was at least interesting. To me it just feels off and again since Lucasfilm now declared her the daughter of a Palpatine clone and whatever they will stir up to undo the damage done with VIII to the fans I think the only choice that was again already given in VII was that she is in fact a Skywalker hidden because she was in danger because she needed to be the “last hope” to finally destroy the Sith / dark force users. This would rhyme far better than the Palpatine descendant thingy. It might have worked even better if Snoke would have just been the bad guy all along and maybe Trevorrow’s unmade IX would have been a far superior experience, but that is a lot of ifs.

Thanks for all the feedback so far. I don’t want to alienate anyone here, maybe this whole line of discussion or ideas with Rey being Luke’s daughter has all been discussed to the end before here on the board and I just missed it or I am going into territory a lot of the users here just see no possibility of pulling it off in the editing which I understand as well.

And then again if everybody sticks to her being a nobody it is turning the Skywalker saga into absurdity because Ben’s role and impact was reduced to be thrown into the pit and bringing back Rey to life which has never been seen before in Star Wars and is again a deus ex machina. Ben is the hero in the end but we’re not supposed to feel that imho. Lucasfilm / Kennedy only want us to accept Rey as the hero of these nine films she saves the day, because Anakin, Luke an Ben were all unable to do it and were toxic males. And again that is not my way of thinking but that is what people like Johnson, Kennedy and Mr. Hidalgo were putting into Star Wars starting in about 2014. They brought the politics into Star Wars and we the fans need to take this out and bring back the fairy tale, the hero’s journey and the classical grand space opera feeling to it or what.

You’ve just been asked to stop with the political discussions in this thread - both in here and in PMs - and yet here you are - still continuing…

Have a week away from the site to work out why.