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She seemed so nice...  Is there a script of the pre-Kirshner version?  Has she explained it any further.  Here's a bit of the story:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCop_2

However, Miller's script was labeled "unfilmable" by producers and studio executives. His script was heavily changed through rewrites, and drastically re-written into what became RoboCop 2. *OMIT*  His original screenplay for RoboCop 2 took on an almost "urban legend" status, and was later turned into a nine-part comic book series called Frank Miller's RoboCop. Critical reaction to the comic adaptation of the Miller script were mixed to negative.

msycamore wrote: what's odd about them is that they along with other dirt spots, tell us that these frames were reused a couple of frames later in the sequence but in opposite order

A second case of RTRR.  (Raging Tusken Raider Reversal)

http://books.google.com/

Can point you in the right direction, plus you can refine your search when you discover an alley worth micro-searching on.  All the major GL bios and his books are in there.

Same thing but with newspapers:

http://news.google.com/news/advanced_news_search?as_drrb=a

You could cross compare what people said about the movie in the few early years verses quotes from when it was re-released in 97.  See how recorded opinions changed.

...paying no attention to the curtains behind a manpipe with that crack...

How'd you figure out the compliance/non-compliance?  Have you been counting frames between cues?!!!  Or did you come to this conclusion as in moth3r's there is a double cue:

moth3r's got other double cue'd frames:

Rookie cue maker.

evan1975 wrote: They claim "a magazine" as their source:

This could be the source:

http://www.blackbookmag.com/movies/don-t-expect-to-see-the-phantom-menace-s-jake-lloyd-ever-act-again-1.45583

They have the an old interview video at the bottom.  The article contains some of the quotes (from the video ...creepy) and others are interpretations.  and the rest could be real but we'll probably never know.

and the blackbookmag points to:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2110383/Anakin-Skywalker-actor-Jake-Lloyd-Star-Wars-fame-turned-life-living-hell.html

which i guess is a direct competitor of the Sun so that's why they've referenced the mag instead of the mail.

In the vein of prequel actors talking about TPM.  Ewan McGregor sez:

I was happy to be in them.

http://www.slashfilm.com/film-interview-ewan-mcgregor-talks-salmon-fishing-yemen-jack-giant-killer-star-wars

...f a s c i n a t i n g...

TServo2049 wrote: Could that print have made its way from whatever person made the Catnap transfer (presumably in the UK, judging by the speedup and PAL color bars), down the line to Jaxxon, and eventually to Puggo? What are the odds?

3po sez: 3,270 to 1.  Definitely a possibility but i'd say rather remote.  Would make some sense that these prints do remain in the hands of like minded Star Wars fans but this would be so bizarre.  Hopefully more 16mm's will be digitized and this can be looked at with a good data set.  and the catnap color strafes throughout, which needs to be considered when looking at a specific scene.

Darth Mallwalker wrote: However This cue dot error from Catnap is not present on GRANDE.

Isn't that pic from moth3r?  Here's the Catnap: (just peaking out the bottom, if that's not an artifact or other type of capture error)

General question on SMPTE-55 and cue dots.  What are their proper names (besides motor and change over) or a common usage name and as there are only 4 per group, do they have a more specific name.  I should have capped all of them... instead of just one per group.  Reminds me to add the -1 ESB to: http://fd.noneinc.com/Reel_Changes/Reel_Changes.html

Article from today's sunday edition on the topic:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/fashion/popularity-of-star-wars-endures-even-for-children.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=star%20wars&st=cse

On one level Sci-Fi replaced Cowboys and Indians for children.  Bullets became lasers and swords returned from medieval play via the light saber.

Star Wars's simple title will stick around for the time when the stars/space are still our next destination.  Once that becomes more common place then the ideas of the myths embedded in SW will move onto other stories.

In the less short term, Star Wars will become the poster child for extended/perpetual copyright abuses.

doubleKO wrote: There seems to be a ton of Star Wars references on TV lately.

What programs had references?  I've noticed a bunch, but I watch too much tv and am spotting them all the time.  Eastbound and Down, Whitney, Big Bang Theory, Chelsea, Comic Book Men, Colbert, Daily Show, Todd Margaret in the last month or so.

Protocol Droid wrote: I hope i'm not building expectations too high.

Nah the people around here who want to remain sane know to keep a level head until things work out.  In the Theatrical Performance thread are some of my conversations with others who wrote online about their SW recordings.  Total is under 10 and all but two were certain their tapes were gone, one was still looking last I heard.

I'm not even sure if it was a couple of days or weeks into it's premiere here in AZ.

I'm sensing that your parents have... to be cliche Star Wars guy ...become one with the Force?

Thanks didn't know about your past work.  (maybe I saw it way back when, but had completely forgotten about it)  The data moves over fairly easily: test v6:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtjXdIjRQo5NdEk4U29vZ1pPaFVYN2xlREl0amhCTFE

problems encountered are you have some extra pieces.  'blank' sections between the opening logos for instance.  I'll probably add that to this.  and i've got deleted scenes and the variations to attend to when porting the data over. 

Why did you use End Time?

Thinking i'll split End Time into two columns as google docs is misinterpreting them initially.  First column for the time info (0:00), second for the frame decimal. (.665)  Right now having all the movies in one file, the limit for a google spreadsheet is about to be reached, unfortuantely.

For your purposed -1 there should be enough columns which allow you to sort to get rid of the data you don't want.  For instance, getting rid of the unused script scenes should be accomplishable with a quick sort.

Thanks for the work and bringing it back up.  Thanks Moth3r for the reference.

Not sure how to get word to the kid, but as he feels it's trouble to release the movie, he could release his working files as an alternative.  If he's ripped the DVDs for instance in one piece and the editing file references those, then people can recreate the final product with their own ripped copies.

Some programs/concepts for consideration: Share, Tribler, Netkups, RetroShare.  Anyone use, have opinions?

http://www.getshareapp.com/

http://tribler.org/trac/wiki/whatIsTribler

http://netkups.com/?page=faq

http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/

Throw out others for consideration.

Bingowings wrote: Uzumaki (2000)

Big fan of Junji Ito's manga.  Uzumaki (Spiral) has been classified as feminist horror as instead of everyone getting stabbed, everyone gets sucked into a vortex.  The movie is relatively lo-fi, a work of admiration.  The fun part of it is the computer sfx guys put small spirals thru out the movie in odd and unusual places.

Just got back from "Tim and Eric's Billion Dollar Movie"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1855401/

Good times with a small but diverse crowd.  Lots of nervous giggles, some out right laughs, (one guy really dug the death gag) and the old guy in front of me, kept making scoffing sounds before he fell asleep.

Roger Ebert's review's last paragraph is classic: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120229/REVIEWS/120229974

and on the way home saw Louis CK filming the show.  Then someone threw up on the train home...

Tobar wrote: Frequently Asked Questions About Time Travel (2009)

I watched this too because of the IT Crowd connection.  fun movie.  The next in this actor connection movie watching for me is 'Safety not Guaranteed' http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1862079/ because of Jake Johnson.  Getting a kick out of his character on It's Jess.

Also watched Kevin Smith's Red State.  Not sure why that one got made.  Comes off as very thin.

^ haven't been unfocused enough to witty come back.

Latest soundmosaic test takes the full TPM audio to recreate the full Twin Suns audio:

http://noneinc.com/SWxTPM-4DWHUXGA/soundmosaic/sw4d-test-020.wav

This version works for the most part.  The repetative choppyness makes you aware that it's not the original audio but you can clearly hear the melody shining thru.  This test required about 12 hrs computation so this will be easier to tweak.  Will try different segment sizes to see if more of the TPM can peer out.  Easier to make out the theme when the whole clip is reproduced.

Protocol Droid wrote: I was already 99% sure that we saw it at the Cine Capri, as we saw just about every movie there(including SW about 10 times)....sure enough the Cine Capri is on the list.  I guess that would make this a recording of the 70mm print, right?

Not necessarily.  According to Coate's in70mm.com page, Capri had SW in 35mm opening day May 25/27.  And remained that way until Sept 14th when it got a 70mm print.  How long that 70mm print remained there i'm not sure, may have been as short as a week.  Do you have a guestimate what date everything went down?

ESB leans more towards being a 70mm recording, as Capri had the 70mm print opening day.  The 70mm ESB has a few variations.  How are the crowds in this showing.  Was it early on so people were generally not aware of the reveal?

Scofield it is.  What propelled your mother to record the movie?  Was this a special case or part of a hobby?  Typically with the digital file is a small text file explaining what it is, the story behind it would help place the recording in some context.  What ever you'd like to tell.  Some people go as far as mentioning the recording device.

Yeah makes sense to be in that part of the forum.  Merge or delete.

http://www.slashfilm.com/topher-grace-edited-star-wars-prequels-85minute-movie/

Synopsis from article:

His idea was to edit the Star Wars prequels into one movie, as they would provide him a lot of footage to work with. He used footage from all three prequels, a couple cuts from the original trilogy, some music from The Clone Wars television series, and even a dialogue bit from Anthony Daniels’ (C-3PO) audio book recordings. He even created a new opening text crawl to set up his version of the story.

 

The result is an 85-minute movie titled Star Wars: Episode III.5: The Editor Strikes Back.

Topher Grace is commonly known as an actor from 'That 70's Show': http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0333410/

Other quotes from articles:

we were told that this would be the one and only time he would screen his cut. Of course, there are tremendous legal issues which would prevent him from screening the edit in public. He has no intention of uploading the footage online, and doing a screening at, say, Comic-Con, would require uncle George’s permission — which probably would never happen.

http://www.3news.co.nz/Topher-Grace-revamps-Star-Wars-prequels/tabid/418/articleID/245782/Default.aspx

"It took about nine months to do. But I was learning and experimenting how to edit at the same time. Hopefully this will segue into a series of some sort."

http://www.movieline.com/2012/03/08/topher-graces-85-minute-star-wars-prequel-fan-edit-pwns-too-bad-you-cant-see-it/

Now, is there any difference between Grace's edit and a fan edit made by some not-famous Joe Schmoe Star Wars fanboy with an editing yen? I don't see why there would be

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/celebritology/post/topher-grace-has-created-an-85-minute-version-of-the-star-wars-prequels-with-no-jake-lloyd-and-very-little-jar-jar/2012/03/08/gIQAJYF0yR_blog.html

Actually, Grace reportedly wants to encourage this small group of Hollywood insiders to pursue similar re-edits of other films. It’s unclear why, unless he just wants his colleagues to think more carefully about which elements of a script are truly needed to tell a powerful cinematic story, which could be a valuable exercise.

Yes people around here like myself are interested to hear how people reacted back then.  It's a cliche but it's extremely rare for these type of recordings to come forward. 

Here is a thread which lists other Theater Recordings and links to their threads:http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Theater-Performance-Preservations/post/454292/#TopicPost454292

I'll add this thread to the list.  Feel free to create a name to identify this version.  Other SW77 in theater recordings are morgands1, blitter, Belbecus, L.Mayer & BrianM.  Only one of these (L.Mayer) has significant 'crowd interaction', most of the recordings were done in empty theaters as the recorders were looking for a clean copy to appreciate the audio mix.

On thing to identify in the recording is which audio soundtrack it was.  The Starkiller Mono Mix guide has explanation and audio clips:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/russdawson/mono/

To help determine which theater the recording came from, if it is 70mm, this website has a list of all the locations the 70mm screened and when.

http://www.in70mm.com/news/2003/star_wars/chapters/openings.htm

Mr. Coate's also identified the ESB 70mm screenings:

http://www.in70mm.com/news/2003/empire/index.htm

Thanks for the info!

The George Lucas episode of 'The Prophets of Science Fiction' is premiering as i'm typing.  Missed the first 15 minutes.  But when they aired a clip of Star Wars, I believe they've notated it as 1997.

*EDIT* SW is definitely labeled 1997.  ...but Empire clips are labeled 1980....

The show is about how works from books to movies spur real world science.  Episodes tend to showcase two of three technologies, along with a brief history of the author/creator and overview of the books/movies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vuxKb5mxM8g#!

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We'll the third soundmosaic test finally finished after computing for 3.5+ days.

http://noneinc.com/SWxTPM-4DWHUXGA/soundmosaic/sw4d-test-003.wav

Some of the tones are a little stronger then the --partition quick test-001 version.  The problem is the sample base, it's too limited.  Next round of tests will be with a larger piece of the movie, working toward the full movie audio being digested.

One of the things learned in this third test is that it's probably best to not continue working at 4800khz.  Half of quarter resolution may work enough to show the theory can be pulled off.

negative1 wrote:

Thanks for these.  Have been wanting to ask for awhile, but felt a like a nudge, so held off until an opportunity arose.  They look great and fill out the chart where past preservations lacked.  The one above is a little mystery.  The next shot is Luke leaving Dagobah, which is not that bright a shot to make this unnoticeable.  but maybe it is.  Would think this could possible be the first of the transition, any chance they accidentally got mislabeled?  Does the shape continue into the leader?

digitalfreaknyc wrote: Did you put what you talked about in your updated edition?

http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/marcialucas.html

ZilogJones wrote: On my unsuccessful searching of more information about this I did come across something possibly useful - what cue marks (the dots before the end of a reel) are on these older releases, if any? Black cue marks would have been made on a negative, and white ones on a positive.

Here are pics of known SW film cue marks:

http://fd.noneinc.com/Reel_Changes/Reel_Changes.html

Pop culture recent references on this topic: On 'Eastbound and Down' this week (s03e03), the main character gets into this Luke/Yoda speech only to find out his teammate has no clue what he's talking about.  And on Whitney a week or two ago, one of the characters doesn't want to admit to her boyfriend that she's never seen Star Wars.  ...In december the UK show 'Never Seen Star Wars' returned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27ve_Never_Seen_Star_Wars_%28TV_series%29