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This is a huge worldwide problem.  Someone needs to write a digital Fahrenheit 451 and even after that it'll still be an issue.

Heilemann wrote: What bothers me so much about this in particular, is that it would take next to nothing to keep an old blog alive. So it's not an official part of starwars.com anymore; that doesn't mean that permalinks and their content need to disappear.

Yeah problem is the net is a bunch of links, there needs to be a transition time or a service which converts links.  If everything moved one day all the existing links are null and void.  My mirror of blogs.starwars.com is 2.61gb, trying to learn now to condencse it to just the text info which would make it maybe hundreds of mb.  Keeping that part of the public net would be less difficult.

Getting involved with the ArchiveTeam.org is a way to help.  Here's an interview with Jason Scott:

http://www.onthemedia.org/2012/mar/23/archive-team/

check out the comments, one by Brewster Kahle of archive.org.

But when it comes to starwars.com articles there's copyright which permits LFL to make information erasure legal for the rest of our lifetimes.  But helping the waybackmachine become more comprehensive is a way around that for the time being.

Mielr wrote: I remember seeing another TV version once (may have been the broadcast premiere on CBS) that cropped out Luke and left Leia on the left of the screen and Han to the right.

Here's pics from a 1995 Sci-Fi broadcast:

In relation to russs15's page, in the opening widescreen shot in this 1995 Sci-Fi broadcast the last frame of the SD flyover (the next shot is FS) has a different vertical cropping then the rest of the shot.

http://vimeo.com/39507943

Speaking Correct Order of Words Yoda Is by MechaStewart

Quote: Edited I did. Word order I did change.

via: boingboing.net

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OnDizZ7UT0

via:kottke.org

Some of the old sites are cross referenced between wookiepedia and archive.org.  For example the Last Corellian Shipyards can be found in some wookiepedia posts and in the footnote they note that it's offline but link to the waybackmachine's archive.

http://web.archive.org/web/20081027034915/http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/member/kessel/f20060309.html

Problem is sometimes if an article was several links deep or within a frame or separate window, that might not have been archived.  Also have come across articles without important/relevant pics.  But fans have done pic dumps of some hyperspace kind of stuff.  The ArchiveTeam has focused on publicly generated content.

Would need to bring this topic up in other forums, there are people in other places into archiving online info, and they may have a more complete picture.

If you consider this information as entertainment then it's easy to dismiss it when it goes offline.  but even entertainment is eventually historical and we live in a time when these kind of resources don't require much attention to remain in public consumption.

I vote for raw, and the tape flip over gap at actual length.  ie you have to wait through the tape flipping portion.  No to patching with the soundtrack from another source, but can fill this tape flip void or other missing segments with something phun.  And please leave in the over-recorded segment, curious what was so important or a complete accident.

Didn't really need a new thread, this one can be renamed.  btw link to this thread from the other...

It maybe cheeky and unnecessary, but so that this recording sync's up with the movie, at the point where the recording stops for a tape flip, maybe drop in some other audio (but silence is fine) the cheesy 'Let's all go out to the movies' comes to mind or maybe a piece of the SW audio book with the clip 'turn the page when R2 beeps'.

bkev wrote: Well -1 has done his trademark DELETING EVERYTHING trick and the blog is officially empty.  I'm not quite sure if that makes sense ,but he did warn us.  So...

Was there something you were looking to recall?

^ drag and drop into another browser window.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/03/22/mischief-follows-in-partisan-bible-translations/

This is something that happens sometimes.

Please scan or take pictures of the cassette.  Nice to have a link to the past as part of the package.

Some people's phones are part of their internet package.  Disconnected people loose the ability to contact 911.

SilverWook wrote: Is that indicative of it's peak and decline?

For quick and dirty gives a sense of what was going on.  When you have a whole site and there are two posts a day (for a year), can understand the reason to halt new information being added, but taking it offline completely is not helpful to research and the concept of the internet as a public library.

One trooper who wrote a joke a day.  Over 1,400+ entries. 

Refining the numbers to just posts created in that year: and comparing that to total yearly activity (blog posts + blog posts with comments of that year) = % of new blog posts over total activity.

2005 - 7,470 (2005 - 13,755) : 54%

2006 - 24,132 (2006 - 38,956) : 62%

2007 - 5,826 (2007 - 8,088) : 72%

2008 - 2,751 (2008 - 3,991) : 68%

2009 - 1,393 (2009 - 2,118) : 65%

2010 - 1,363 (2010 - 2,036) : 66%

2011 - 429 (2011 - 689) : 62%

2012 - 84 (2012 - 155) : 54%

First pass learning blogs.starwars.com to be around 2.61gb of 72,370 items.  Files with dates from 'year':

2005 - 13,755

2006 - 38,956

2007 - 8,088

2008 - 3,991

2009 - 2,118

2010 - 2,036

2011 - 689

2012 - 155

Are there any articles which compare/contrast this movie with the recent Tracy Lords 'Princess of Mars' from the Sci-Fi channel of 2009?

SilverWook wrote:

I've been puzzling over a photo of Lucas and Jango Fett that looks like Tunisia too.

Maybe part of a group of publicity shots.  George's clothes look the same here and generally the same age and background.  (on second thought, none of that.  maybe same original shoot and they pasted gl and jf together...)

(big version: http://st.gdefon.ru/wallpapers_original/actors/104581_dzhordzh-lukas_or_George-Lucas_1600x1200_%28www.GdeFon.ru%29.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqHh578EfrU  (jump to 5:20)

zombie84 wrote: Filoni and the Clone Wars are the only thing keeping the franchise alive.

The video games aren't doing that bad.  tOR might have the same development dollars as the 3D conversions.

http://74.125.157.99/search?q=the+old+republic+star+wars+500+billion&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=LoG&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22the+old+republic%22+%22star+wars%22+500+million&oq=%22the+old+republic%22+%22star+wars%22+500+million&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=2286l3465l3l3738l8l8l0l0l0l0l192l1111l0.8l8l0&gs_l=serp.3...2286l3465l3l3738l8l8l0l0l0l0l192l1111l0j8l8l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=6354beb65f5272f1&biw=1143&bih=1212

97 preservations: TB, GKar, Flunk, Reivax, dark_jedi, jedi/feta, LOOK, 5 Star, DARKSVN

some threads which discuss the topic

http://originaltrilogy.com/FORUM/topic.cfm/1997-SE-DV-Broadcast-Info-Discussion/topic/10964/

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/1997-SE-TB-Digital-Broadcasts/topic/7921/

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/G-Kar-Edition/topic/1978/

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Are-the-1997-Special-Edition-releases-preserved/topic/13262/page/1/

Please create a thread for people who'd like to talk about other forums.

For those who may have participated or read any blogs.starwars.com, what information is important to you.  [For example Leland Y Chee (continuity keeper) has a blog and many other official Star Wars authors and writers like J.W. Rinzler.]

Trying to get it all but will selectively preserve.

thanks

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zombie84 wrote: This may sound like typical non-PT-fan cynicsm, but I do honestly believe they shut down the forums because they essentially took over TF.N.  That site did lots of business with the official site and had lots of cross-talk and business dealings.

Care to explain this idea of business dealings?

From the information i've been privy to, the only connection between tf.n and LFL is a handshake and personel access.  While attempting to preserve a public record of forums.starwars.com I was chatting with the boards.theforce.net folks and that place was having difficulties creating their own backup, in case of a catastrophic mishap.  They've been gifted housing and some server stuff for several years past their initial agreement.  It seems as if they are finally getting into migrating to a new system or provider.  But I haven't heard if LFL was part of helping out that deal.

The continual shut down of starwars.com is partly out a businesses desire to cut staffing and supposedly antiquated systems.  What they fail to realize is they are also destroying their fans participation.  The blogs are the latest piece to 'insert cliche here'

http://theforce.net/latestnews/story/BlogsStarWarscom_Is_Shutting_Down_144246.asp

As Hyperspace services officially ended as of December 31, 2011, we wanted to give you the opportunity to retrieve whatever content you have posted to your official StarWars.com Blog before they are completely retired in 60 days.

laserdisc: I saw star wars in 1977 and I was 7. At 7 i naturally took everything for granted.  At the time the whole NASA and space thing was quite new and was something that attacted the interest of the general population anyway.

NASA went to the moon in 1969.  The Space Shuttle program started in 1981.

skywalker89 wrote: Sorry I'm new here and I don't find the links of the Laserdisc-Rip of Episode one. Am I bilnd?

Please read the general forum rules:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Fan-edit-preservation-forum-rules-and-FAQ/forum/17/topic/5950/

That will explain why you will not find links to content in these forums.  What is acceptable is general direction.  So usenet's alt.binaries.starwars is a place which at times has things which you are looking for.

I have this Z version on a factory-made VHS Tape with german dubbing from e-bay, originaly buyed on a flee market, maybe made in Chechia or Russia.

This german dubbing, is it authentic or was it created by a non-official source.  The tape is it NTSC or PAL?  What else do you know about this version?