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doubleofive said:

In the wake of Force Awakens, we’re still arguing that a Jedi needs extensive training? 😉

This crawl is well-written, but it begs the question of him leaving then going back and being surprised that Yoda is dying if he had JUST seen him a week before.

I guess the only way is during that time he was away (from days to weeks depending on travel time, etc) then Yoda got sick (which he admits, as well as being old) and Luke, like any of us, says reassuring things … granted it was about age.

Though when an older person gets sick, deepening what it is, it can be a relatively quick death …

The coloring is looking great adywan! Big approvement over the official blu ray!

Thanks for the link five, I’ll admit, I own the blu ray set but have not watched the originals… I first bought the set and immediately downloaded Harmy’s edit and watched those. (I held off since there were so many as changes… and then a buddy told me abour harmy)

I will say that is a step up from the original due to technical limitations. I am VERY curious about what Adywan will do if he wants to improve it.

Editroid said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I think they look like shit.

Feel better?

No.

hug

What .Mac said.

The logic with having some shuttles in the background is

A.) Working on a large battle station, there needs to be some “traffic,” secret building or not. The station needs supplies and building material.
B.) The heroe’s course catches the attention of the Executor since it is going to the planet and not the station. That is why it seems “out of no where” a shuttle is appearing and going to the planet and not the station since that’s what is being worked on.

No dialogue needs to be altered and doesn’t mess around with Vader sensing or not. Even if the viewer does not know what happens in the movie next … when watching the original, it seems pretty clear the “sensing” appears after Vader’s question and begins “pondering” about it. (scene with Vader looking away) Sorry if I am not quite understanding your thinking Jan-wan.

Granted, there does not need to be thousands of shuttles (or enough to litter the scene of vessels) since the emperor is not having “all hands on deck” to build DSII since he wants to cement the idea of the Rebels that the base is incomplete and is “vulnerable.”

I am curious to see the 1080 render myself! If we find the 3 audio things do we win a prize?! 😉

I also don’t think it would get too lost either. Even when you watch the scene, I don’t think right away the audience think “Vader knows Luke is there” when he asks about the shuttle. It seems RIGHT at that moment the thinking was more like “there is a shuttle that came from no where and wants to go to planet, that seems a bit odd.” Hence, why he wants to know what that shuttle is doing. Once he begins focusing on the shuttle, then he sensed Luke’s presence.

Or, one could think he felt something was off about the shuttle and wanted to explore his “gut” feeling. (force, whatever.) It was then confirmed later in that scene.

From the scene at least, it wasn’t until the dialogue a bit after his question about the shuttle it was implying Vader was sensing Luke specifically. SO adding more shuttles in the scene or whatever does not affect the dialogue at all.

doubleofive said:

NeverarGreat said:

doubleofive said:

.Mac. said:

The interior of the Sentinel’s cockpit is similar to the Lambda’s anyway (unlike the Zeta), so he wouldn’t have to change anything there.

So does the exterior nose, which means some background replacement for the docking bay set instead of replacing every set piece.

I am, however, very much in favor of seeing a string of thousands of various cargo/construction crafts moving between the Death Star and the moon, which can include the Zeta-class; for there it makes sense and I hope we see it.

I was thinking of this too, but does the current dialog on the Star Destroyer allow for Tydirium to just be one of hundreds they’ve seen today? And would they all have to pass right over the Destroyer and “fly casual”?

It would be cool to see dozens of shuttles milling about the Death Star, but since the moon only contains the shield generator and this is operational, there shouldn’t be many craft traveling that way. So perhaps Tydirium is in a line of shuttles headed for the Death Star but breaks away for the moon, taking it across the path of the destroyer.

“Where is that shuttle going?” Could work!

That idea makes a good amount of sense. There should be ALOT of activity for building another death star quickly “out in the middle of no where.” I agree too that Vader’s line would fit nicely still without having to alter any dialogue.

ADR14NAT1ON said:

I think people are forgetting that while the whole movie and the publicity for it was about the “Death Star Plans”, what they really end up stealing is the -star dust file- Galen left on scarif. My theory is he purposely misplaced the dish so emperials would think it was an outdated version and don’t look too much into it, and the weakness he placed is accurate. That’s what I think.

I get your thought process, but that would be inconsistent with the story. Galen explicitly said he hid the weakness in the death star plans, in such a way in seemed insignificant but would cause a chain reaction in the reactor. Star Dust is the code name for the Death Star Plans, just like the Manhattan Project was the code name for the A-bomb back in WWII.

With that all being said, the best way is to first leave the first image when we see the plans, that then flips to more of an accurate detailed plans. The first image again, could be the original logo/symbol for the death star as the “first” page.

Bingowings said:

nhoj3 said:

snooker said:

Here’s doubleofive’s old list of wanted ROTJ changes if anyone wants to take a look.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140927233237/http://doubleofive.wordpress.com:80/rotj-fanedit-wishlist/

Wow… that is an exhaustive list! There are some really great ideas in there! I’m especially impressed with all of the continuity and effects suggestions. Some suggestions seem a bit on the impossible side, but the majority of the list is actionable. I thought that some (like having burning DS2 debris replace the fireworks) were downright inspired.

I don’t know the exact relationship between Ady and 005, but I’m assuming that Ady’s aware of all these requests and the don’t need repeating?

If Kyber is essential to Death Star building it would explain why they had to use something else to do the same job in episode 7.

“The strongest Stars have the hearts of Kyber.” So in a way, Starkiller based used a similar method of the Deathstars … Different yes, but there is that connection with Kyber in a way.

NeverarGreat said:

I am physically unable to cut the most Carrie Fisher line in the movie. 😃

That’s understandable…

This one works for me. Nice editing NeverarGreat. Nothing you can do about the abrupt end, but it is ok since we don’t jump to Starkiller base or anywhere else that would make it very abrupt. It’s all at the base, going from the inside to the outside.

I think the reaction is fine, if not, fitting. The smile at the end is a good choice. It all works to me!

NeverarGreat said:

Here 'tis on Vimeo:

https://vimeo.com/233559263
Password: TFA

@Mala: The line was originally “Without the Republic fleet, we’re doomed”, but it was replaced with “This is a catastrophe” because the Resistance base is still supposed to be hidden at this point in the edit, and thus not a target for the weapon. One could make the argument (and I think I did) that 3PO’s statement could mean “Without the Republic fleet, we (the Resistance attack ships) are doomed”, but that might be confusing.

This version makes clear that the Resistance knows that the First Order is targeting the Republic, and also suggests that under other circumstances, the Resistance would have the backing of the entire Republic fleet. Since there’s so little mention of the Republic in the original film, I worry about taking out any more. ‘It’s the Republic! The First Order, they’ve done it’, and ‘Finn’s familiar with the weapon system that destroyed the Hosnian System, he worked on the base’ were always going to be gone, so these lines are an endangered species of sorts.

That’s looking really good, it’s nearly flawless I think.

The next question is, will someone try to move KYLO’s scar to match last Jedi?

Whoops nevermind on my comment!

NeverarGreat said:

ray_afraid said:

FVDnz said:

Artan42 said:

Something I’ve seen mocked up by AggeIw (https://aggeiw.deviantart.com/art/Give-me-a-Hand-216238791)

It also begs to reason why Vader would even scream over his mechanical arm getting severed. Maybe there were nerves connected during Vader’s suit construction or something?

3PO feels pain when he’s banged around, burned, ect. And the droids in the stupid torture scene are all screaming in pain. If they feel is somehow, I’m sure Vader does too.

It’s a confused issue for sure. Luke’s prosthetic hand has synthetic nerve endings, but this is presented in contrast to Vader’s robotic suit, which is ‘more machine than man’. If he does indeed have feeling in his robotic limbs, it would humanize him.

It might seem “odd” that he would not react to having a body part chopped off like that to the audience. Also, as mentioned, we see that other machines/droids react to getting hit, cut, chopped, disintrigated … it would be consistent to keep it as is.

There is something satisfying with ending with Vader’s helmet being sealed and the breathing, I will give you that. It is a good ending note.

I would highly suggest using the alternate scenes that depicts Padme being alive with Leia … it should be consistent with Leia’s statement in Return of the Jedi.

Granted, story wise the idea of Padme’s death would be better … her death, Vader’s birth … But the Prequels should follow along the original’s stories/canon, not the other way around.

I realized there is one thing that I think deserve’s a fix, which is not a personal taste or anything, but the action sequence was altered between Krenick and Death trooper vs. Jyn and Cassian. It started with 2 death troopers but only one was shot and fell. I believe you took out the part where the first one was shot and fell flat on his stomach. By altering that scene, in a sense you erase one mid fight. I think that part should be restored … not out of personal taste but it appears to make it look like a edit mistake.

Other than that, I like what you did.
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add “I’m Blind!”
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I just watched it and I liked it a lot. I originally enjoyed Rogue One very much and thought it was a great movie in theaters.

I like your decisions you made and was a bit reserved on the removing Cassians first scene. I thought it was necessary to have it for his character, but after watching it … it was not absolutely needed. Everything else I like very much … But I personally missed the “I’m blind” line, it wasn’t forced like a good bit of the easter eggs that were added.

Anyway, I enjoyed it, good job!

FVDnz said:

Artan42 said:

Something I’ve seen mocked up by AggeIw (https://aggeiw.deviantart.com/art/Give-me-a-Hand-216238791)

It also begs to reason why Vader would even scream over his mechanical arm getting severed. Maybe there were nerves connected during Vader’s suit construction or something?

I am sure the robot parts are connect to nerves. When Luke gets his mechanical hand he showed reactions to getting poked.

exitzero said:

Editroid said:

Artan42 said:
I was a big fan of the work done on ANH:R and ESB:R (except for reverting Bobbas voice, and I will fight to the death over that 😄)

One could make the argument that Boba wanted to form his own persona, and not live in the shadow of the clones that were in his “father”'s image, so he adopted a different voice.

Accents are formed from where you live, Boba didn’t grow up where his father lived.

But he “grew up” to an extent with Jango at camino. His father had an accent as he raised him “fairly briefly” so he too would develop that accent. Also, if he was ever around any of the other clones, then there would be more sources of the accent around him.

Artan42 said:

Editroid said:

Artan42 said:
I was a big fan of the work done on ANH:R and ESB:R (except for reverting Bobbas voice, and I will fight to the death over that 😄)

One could make the argument that Boba wanted to form his own persona, and not live in the shadow of the clones that were in his “father”'s image, so he adopted a different voice.

That would work if not for the fact he uses his own voice in TCW.

Bingowings said:

MalàStrana said:

Reverting Boba’s voice to the new version wouldn’t be that hard to do if you want to “personalize” your own ESB:R (both interpretations are good but the original one is far more sinister).
Since Ady is no longer willing to do PT:R I guess we won’t see Temuera Morrison’s face when Boba is seducing the cute dancers.

A) Accents being genetically determined is silly.

But yeah better Fett voice is here to stay so if you want to change it back do your own versions.

It’s not genetically determined though, he uses Logans voice in AoTC and TCW and sounds similar to Morrison (because it was him) when he ages in the same way Rex sounds different when younger (Baker isn’t very good to start with, affecting an Australian accent in TCW) but sounds far more like Morrison by Rebels. None of those are American accents.

I’m just a massive fan of how Morrison sounds (I played Republic Commando) but I don’t feel like making a custom version of TESB:R for the simple reason the recording of the lines isn’t very good in the SE.

I guess I was unclear originally, I meant ‘I prefer Bobba having a Kiwi accent over a generic cowboy one’ rather than ‘I prefer the takes of the dialogue used in the SEs over the original’.

I understand too what you mean. I am on the fence about that. I like the original voice, it added some good personality that matched with Boba Fett. But, to be accurate now due to the prequels, it should now be Morrison’s voice. I understand the reason too why Adywan used the original since he was planning on completely redoing the prequel movies, so he could ax Jango Fett, or at least using his genetics to the clones.

But if I was skilled/had the time, I would implement Morrison’s voice strictly to be “correct” with the prequels. I’d watch Hals’ prequel trilogy and eventually all of Ady’s star wars as my preferred way of watching the movies … well, asides from watching Harmy’s despecialized since they are the only prefered ways of watching “untouched” star wars. 😉

I would be curious to watch your edit when it is all said and done, especially since Hal’s edition is really great.

I was walking this morning thinking about the ending for ROTS, well, specifically Hal’s LOE since its much better. One thought of an edit, based on yours or Hals would be the last time you see Anakin is after Obi Wan leaves him on fire. Then the rest can be the other scenes, with Yoda talking about splitting up the kids, Padme and baby lei at alderman and obi wan at tatooin. Thats how it ends.

My rational is it helps makes it SOMEWHAT possible to watch from the episode 1 in a straight line through the series. (Granted, if someone has NEVER seen the movies or knows anything about it, of course just watch the originals for the “Vader Revelation. Plus the OT is that much better …”)

Anyway, that way it leaves of Episode III like Obi Wan killed Anakin. But we are not too sure. They split up the children to hide from the empire/emporer. Lastly, when Luke does ask Obi Wan about his father, the lie still works on multiple levels. (You know, as the audience, he is lying by his reaction before answering.) The audience can either think that A.) he is not telling the truth about his father’s death by pointing at someone more evil who did it, Vader and the Empire to help recruit Luke. B.) The audience sees Vader, may expect it since from the last episode there was no Darth Vader, so again, Obi Wan is lying about something … suspecious. Could it be the father?

Again this is not a perfect solution, there is no way of editing the prequels to make the reveal believable in the orginal, it can happen since the middle of star wars came out first. But it kind of flows a bit better story wise.

The watcher can also reason that at the Death Star, Obi Wan could have figured out before hand that Anakin was Darth Vader at some point since many years passed from Episode 3 to 4. Or it wasn’t until the confrontation that confirmed Darth Vader is Anakin.

That was my thought. Of course there are some other edits that would need to be done. No mention of Anakin being Vader in Revenge of the Sith. Not at all.

Not a huge thing, but something I thought about this morning.

Hal 9000 said:

We could pipe in audio from Neil deGrasse Tyson over the First Order’s or Resistance’s intercoms explaining that one star has the power to destroy ten thousand planets.
But yes, the idea is that, apparently, one star does not equal one firing. And as far as this edit goes, there’s nothing to say that it wasn’t built for a single-use against Capital Planet.

That’s all fair enough, since the edits changes any assumptions of a one charge up per fire.

Or like you said, you can easily put in that quote. Maybe get a group of people in First Order troops in a class room with a sign that says “StarKiller Base 101.”

I see no flaw!

I am sorry if this was discussed earlier, this came to my mind the other day after watching the Version 1 cut. Since the base fired its beam, would there be enough of it left to allow the base to be destroyed? Like the original cut, the base turns into a sun, since original it was “full” from draining the sun?

Or is the “new” explanation is it needed to drain the sun to become fully operational to begin shooting stuff?