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#1367436
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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axlanian said:

JakeRyan17 said:

I moved all of this victory montage after the Resistance victory scene on Ajan Kloss. That way it can be The Resistance and their new fleet aiding in taking down the First/Final Order.

Hal, are you gonna do this? It makes more sense than “suddenly, unpopulated Jakku took down a Star Destroyer”

Obviously all those scavengers did it since … well … they wanted more portions … think of what they would get for NEW shiny parts!

😉

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#1367416
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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HyperDown said:

Forgive my terrible memory, but why are all these Star Destroyers exploding over random planets? (I only saw TROS once, so I might be forgetting something).

At the end of the movie, there was this montage of “people around the galaxy is uprising against the First Order” and shows their destruction.

So this clip Hal is doing is adding a couple more to help “round out” the entire saga and not just sequel movie planets in the original cut.

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#1367404
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Hal 9000 said:

How’s this?

https://vimeo.com/445300336

That’s a step in the right direction! I think the smoke needs to slow down more, since the other shots show that the smoke doesn’t move too fast or “loose its shape” in comparison to the naboo one. Plus, I would darken the smoke to match the other explosions.

But yes, the smoke is better than the fire ball explosions, it fits better.

It’s getting close … this is great!

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#1367393
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Hal 9000 said:

And just so everyone knows, in case you did not… Snooker sent me an updated version of the Naboo shot after seeing workprint #4. Just so everyone is on the same page, here is the most recent clip I have from her, in context:

https://vimeo.com/445085207

It’s definitely a munch better improvement. The clouds slowed down helps with the scene. I also appreciate the work that was done with everything else.

I’ve watched it a few times and the explosions still feel … “off” to me, like it doesn’t match anything we’ve seen and proportionately seems off to me at well. I think there needs to be more smoke to help “hide” some of the explosion to help blend it in better maybe? Or small less explosions with more smoke? Smoke the whole time would help I think.

I LOVE having Naboo in it and it is worthy to be kept in, I think there just needs to be a little more tinkering. I feel like the explosions don’t seem right. Although I commend the work being done. Seriously, I have ZERO skill.

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#1367002
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Thought those are fine reasons and whatnot, I don’t mean to derail the conversation since it’s more on the “Man, what the heck Disney” with the sequel movies.

But still, even before all of this with the lightsaber stuff, it is still a bit silly.

Anakin went through many lightsabers. Luke lost the “skywalker” saber. Some how the saber returns (don’t get me started on the comic) and calls out to someone. And at the end? Rey buries it.

Sorry I really don’t mean to derail things, things have just been handled so … ugh.

But to get back on track with this edit. For the Naboo shot, which I hope can get salvaged, I think what stickks out to me is the fast moving clouds and the too visible and fast explosions of the Star Destroyer. These scenes should be “slow moving” to match the others. Also, I am not sure even if slowing down and lowering the opacity of the explosion would help it since it looks a bit too different from the other shots. I think just having it smoking or something would be better and easier to implement maybe?

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#1366861
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Hal 9000 said:

To address an idea from Dom’s thread: I will more than likely end up releasing the regular (Rey Palpatine) version before a Rey Nobody version. In case there’s some huge issue that gets glossed over, I’d rather just fix one than two!

That makes sense … things always come up.

I was thinking about things … well, mainly how Disney screwed the pooch with Star wars sequel trilogy, that the whole “Skywalker Family Saber” arc is quite silly-er. Especially with Rey being a palpatine, the scene in TFA makes even less sense … why would the saber call out to a palpatine?

Anyway, nothing to do with this edit specifically … just how … disconnected these movies are and add things that just don’t makes sense.

Sigh.

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#1366071
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Hal 9000 said:

Kewlfish, I can’t seem to make anything of the clip you posted of Rey’s training sequence. It appears to be in a codec none of my tools can process. Any ideas, or could you perhaps export to ProRes?

Here’s a clip anway, with my audio but no visual changes yet. The effect isn’t super audible very often, nor should it be. https://vimeo.com/442788429

It’s subtle. I like it.

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#1365714
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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JakeRyan17 said:

jarbear said:

Ah yeah, that’s the order. My bad about the intel timing and all. Never mind.

Still personally again the corny fortnite lines.

I get that the Fortnite message is corny, and I agree… but it’s still a better way to give this information. So much of the film is corny that if you cut all that’s corny out, you might have slightly more than a trailer.

This new villain, who was presumed dead for over 30 years within continuity and in the real world has very little setup to being a threat still. That’s why I’m one that thinks this message should be in The Last Jedi after Snoke does and just before Luke arrives on Crait and Kylo’s travelling to Exegol (with the Mustafar sequence fully cut) should replace Rey travelling to Ahch-To in The Force Awakens.

For those that don’t like seeding Palpatine into the other films, I think having this broadcast, or at least part of it, in this Resistance meeting helps act as proof that Palpatine has returned, it’s something they can tangibly witness (unlike Poe’s “Somehow, Palpatine returned” line).

I get that thinking. At least for me, using Poppa or Hal’s Hal’s Last Jedi already hints at Palps. As well as a small taser in Hal’s TFA. (The TLJ in both versions is a heavy imply right at the end.)

So using either of those two edits for TLJ already “warms us up” to Palpatine’s return. Hench, still in my head, this is not necessary with those edits in mind as well as not using the silly lines.

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#1365701
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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The board conversation talks about Palpatine, the fleet, etc. Not sure what the hang up is. Yes, the baddies talk about a spy. So what? Many bothans were killed for intel for the rebellion … did that stop the rebellion? Did they just … not listen to the intel because people died getting it?

What does it matter if Kylo says he’s going to hunt her … the resistance are always being hunted by FO and Rey would not go and do anything if Kylo says he is looking for her? The Psuedo Sith hunting the psudo Jedi? That’s kind of par for the course. Why would that stop her from doing anything?

Plus on Pasaana they have a line to keep low since their are FO patrols … so … that fits with being hunted too.

Also, as a simple audio thing too, there can be a small clicking sound and some point during the board room discussion at some point, which could be the starting point of the “leaked” conversation to the Resistance. It such a small thing but people could recognize that if they watch the movie again and make the connection. Nothing super obvious, but just a “hint” to the audience if they watch it again.

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#1365696
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Ok, so its based on that line of Poe, not that the Resistance got the intel. Ok, that clears up that part since that was a bit confusing.

I think the better solution if people or really hounding on needing the resistance hear something. Forget the goofy broadcast. Just have part of the conversation of the First Order in their board room. Put some radio affect on it and THAT is the intel they got. Essentially, Hux recorded the conversation and sent it, with out intel, to the Spy to relay. That way, the Resistance hears part of that recording, that the audience has heard, and the next scene is the Resistance all together.

This allows 1.) Show and not tell (just need a section of the “board room meeting” audio distorted to achieve this). and 2.) The good guys can still can be at a disbelief on what they’ve heard and keep the lines of “Can we believe this?” and “Somehow he is alive” if needed.

Win win.

(The fortnite lines are just too corny, sorry.)

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#1365685
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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JakeRyan17 said:

jarbear said:

Hal 9000 said:

Eh, we just start the scene with the Palpatine message already playing, concluding right before Rose asks, “Do we believe this?” The audience doesn’t need to be told it’s Palpatine; we met him already.

It feels like people are getting all hooked up on the resistance not hearing something or having something played for them? Palps has been revealed to the audience, does their need to be some like … more confirmation of that? The resistance is already surprised by this and can’t believe it … do what’s the issue? I’m trying to follow this rational but don’t quite get it.

Because he was revealed to the Audience, not the Resistance. There are a lot of things that get revealed to the audience but not the heroes, such as Chewie’s survival. If it’s a major foundation to the motivation of the heroes, it should be in the film.

They decode the intel and Poe says “Palpatine is alive.” They learn of his “survival/revival” from the message. So … it is revealed to them. They get intel from a spy and then tell their group what it says, in which Palps is alive. So … yeah. It is revealed. Both sides know he is alive without them literally having to hear and/or see stuff with the audience. Again. The audience knows, they know it by confirming it on screen.

At the moment it feels like the idea is to shoe horn something in that is not necessary and using a goofy line to be honest.

We also do need to know this is a movie and “the visual and audio reveal” has happened. There is no need for both sides to get the same treatment on screen. They both acknowledge learning of it. No need to keep driving the point in.

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#1365677
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Hal 9000 said:

Eh, we just start the scene with the Palpatine message already playing, concluding right before Rose asks, “Do we believe this?” The audience doesn’t need to be told it’s Palpatine; we met him already.

It feels like people are getting all hooked up on the resistance not hearing something or having something played for them? Palps has been revealed to the audience, does their need to be some like … more confirmation of that? The resistance is already surprised by this and can’t believe it based on the intel they have … so what’s the issue? I’m trying to follow this rational but don’t quite get it.

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#1365537
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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What seems kinda odd about this approach is … are they playing that message over the ship’s comms so everyone on board is listening to it? I feel like I’m walking in a hallway at school during the morning’s announcements.

If there was an extended scene of all those generals and whatnot sitting in the room to have them listen to part of the message could work, but we don’t have that kind of footage.