The lightsaber coloring is nice and vivid. As for the Death Star control room, is it me or does it seem really dark?
Well, I don’t think this is half bad. I added the first syllable and a half of “A Jedi can feel the whisky flowing through him” from ANH.
https://vimeo.com/343932338
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That’s seamless, perfect!
I was poking around the movie and it looks like I’ve missed at least one other mention of Vader. This occurs during the first bit of the Rebel ground attack. The scene in question is dialogue between Tarkin’s “right hand man” and himself. The guy talks about the rebel attack on Scarif. Then Tarkin asks about Scarif and the Death Star Plans … which are confirmed … which then Tarkin directs the Death Star to go to Scarif AND inform Lord Vader. This will be a bit of a toughy since he says “and inform Lord Vader” very quickly …
I can play around with it, but the question is it ok to leave in? This is a such a short line that does not indicate that Vader will intervene as said and shown later in the film since I’ve removed Tarkin’s later line about Vader’s role on attacking the fleet as well as remove Vader’s appearance later as well.
UPDATE:
Here is a quick edit that cuts out his line after the “they are” line. https://vimeo.com/344421737
This does take away what his orders on going to Scarif, but it also makes it a “surprise” to see the Death Star later appear toward the end of the battle.
I was poking around the movie and it looks like I’ve missed at least one other mention of Vader. This occurs during the first bit of the Rebel ground attack. The scene in question is dialogue between Tarkin’s “right hand man” and himself. The guy talks about the rebel attack on Scarif. Then Tarkin asks about Scarif and the Death Star Plans … which are confirmed … which then Tarkin directs the Death Star to go to Scarif AND inform Lord Vader. This will be a bit of a toughy since he says “and inform Lord Vader” very quickly …
I can play around with it, but the question is it ok to leave in? This is a such a short line that does not indicate that Vader will intervene as said and shown later in the film since I’ve removed Tarkin’s later line about Vader’s role on attacking the fleet as well as remove Vader’s appearance later as well.
UPDATE:
Here is a quick edit that cuts out his line after the “they are” line. https://vimeo.com/344421737
This does take away what his orders on going to Scarif, but it also makes it a “surprise” to see the Death Star later appear toward the end of the battle.
I posted these videos on RogueOne’s thread, for the sake of the current conversation regarding Nando v Movies, here are some initial attempts to remove Vader and mentions of him until the corridor scene:
Removal of Mustafar Scene - https://vimeo.com/344198122
Removal of Tarkin mentioning Vader’s role of attacking the fleet - https://vimeo.com/344199092
Removal of Vader on the bridge of the star destroyer & his command of a boarding party - https://vimeo.com/344324725
Please note I have noticed a small sound glitch that lasts a split second on these videos which has been address after uploading these clips.
Thanks for the feedback oojason! Also, thank you for the tips about the music, I’ve been dabbling with “Your Father Would Be Proud” at the moment.
Here is a combined clip of Scenes 3 and 4. https://vimeo.com/344324725
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EDIT: I found a sound glitch at 17-18 seconds in this clip after turning up the volume which has been fixed on the main source now.
Here are my attempts to remove Vader visibly or mentioned until we see him at the corridor. I still need to tweak some spots with the music fading into each other, but gives us an idea.
Vader Removal 1 https://vimeo.com/344198122
Vader Removal 2 https://vimeo.com/344199092
Vader Removal 3 https://vimeo.com/344199035
Vader Removal 4 https://vimeo.com/344199504
Scene 1 could be altered to remove the horn sound that is at the beginning of the Yavin base shot and maybe tweaked to have some soft music instead?. At the moment It may work as is since there is a slight build up right before the end of the scene with Jynn that leads to the horn sound.
Scene 2 seems fine to me … at least I don’t see or hear any sound/music issues with the transition.
Scenes 3 and 4 need a bit of working, especially the 4th one … that one is the toughest. There is also a sound glitch too I gotta fix anyway with the final one after exporting it.
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That is very, very awesome and would be a great addition to put in for Episode 2.
For my own edit, it uses Digimod’s edit as a base and I incorporated some of your ideas. The edit I came up with follows the narrative of video about fixing some of the pacing issues which I do agree with!
I am currently messing around with removing Vader and mention of him until the Corridor scene. Most of the issues that need to be addressed are the music transitions from scene removal or trimming to do so. Here are the Vader scenes AND mentions of him:
1.) The first scene to remove is the Mustafar scene with Vader and Krennic. The only thing to really work on is the transition from the Soon-To-Be-Rogue One crew scene in the stolen Imperial ship (After Jynn and Cassian’s argument) to the Rebel Base debating on what to do. It has to do with transiting the music.
2.) The next tinkering is the DS arriving on Scarif. Radus’ main go to guy says something like “giant mass as appeared” and we see the DS behind the clouds on the planet. We then jump to the DS with Tarkin and his go-to-guy. The dialogue goes something like:
“Do we attach the ships?”
“Vader takes care of that, we focus on base, prime it up”
There are two things I am thinking/playing with on this section. A) remove all the dialogue. We see the DS and we shoot back to Jynn and Cassian taking the elevator. B.) Abbreviate the dialogue to JUST Tarkin’s part about targeting the base the base. The main issue is the music transition as usual. However, I have more thoughts after going over the next sections.
3.) Next is Vader’s Star Destroyer jumping in and attacking the fleeing rebel ships. We see some shots of him looking upon the rebel fleet getting hammered. Simply remove the shots of him and tweak the music since it changes from a stronger music score to a softer one once he appears on screen. The softer music continues as the ship destroys more rebel ships. This was actually fairly easy to do and just needs some minor tweaking.
4.) Finally there is a scene between Jynn and Cassian walking on the beach. In the middle, there is a short scene with Vader telling and officer to prepare a boarding party. Simply remove that part. But this is where it gets tricky.
The music changes dramatically from the beach shots and this one. Also, before we see Vader, the two are sitting on the beach. After the Vader scene, they are standing and hugging … so … it makes a transition of them sitting and hugging already tough enough along with a very different music cues … This is one where I need some ideas or some help.
As a side note back on point 2. We can simply remove either the whole dialogue or use parts of it about targeting the base. The reason is more of a logical/military thinking about it. The original dialogue established “Vader will take care of the fleet, we are taking care of the base.” By either removing the scene or adjusting the dialogue in some ways makes it “random” a SD comes out of nowhere. True, it may not be needed at all and we the audience assume a SD came to the rescue since an imperial base is under attack!
I will play around with this, I admit I MAY be tempted to keep it the way it is or the shortened dialogue.
It’s looking good!
I can see that it may feel rushed with the removal of the last scene. It does work for me as is though.
However for the sake of options, a thought came to my mind of maybe making a swipe transition that mirrors the “Anakin Surrounded by Droidekas” swipe to the arena establishing shot could work … maybe?
I understand what what Abram means that the Canto Bight section does feel rushed since so much of it was removed … which it needed some good trimming no matter what. It has been awhile since I’ve watched the theatrical, can the scene be trimmed in such a way that it’s not such a focus on “wanting to get back at them” feel for it but more of the unjust system?
From the current discussion, I am probably more curious with Sir Ridley’s work on having Anakin’s lightsaber retract showing he has his lightsaber but is surrendering … that is the simplest and probably the better way to go.
Here’s the shot in context, if you’d like to take a look. We’re lucky to have Ridley around. 😃
Perfect, I like it! Simple but effective.
From the current discussion, I am probably more curious with Sir Ridley’s work on having Anakin’s lightsaber retract showing he has his lightsaber but is surrendering … that is the simplest and probably the better way to go.
I do like this compromise route Hal. It does add back to the movie something that had a feeling of “something is missing.”
I like the direction you are going!
Understandable as others have mentioned, it may not be a “great” scene or section, but it doesn’t cause problems or any cringy moments to me.
Sorry I gotta ask, how does it improve the banter between the trio when you remove the banter?
The scene removes the first two lines and just have Obi Wan look up and say the line? I don’t get it personally.
I had a free night last night, so I went on my Exercise Bike and watched COD v.6.
One word to sum it up: WOW.
It is a big improvement on V5. COD for me has been a big improvement on TPM, there is no doubt on that. In comparison to Hal’s trilogy, it was the weaker of them since it seems things were trimmed a bit too much. But with V6, it helps return some scenes and moments but still giving them the “proper” trim.
Also, reinventing the Pod Race scene back to its former glory. (With the added Subulba Vent Scene was nice.)
You added back some of the humor with Jar Jar but made sure it didn’t go too far. Nicely done.
Also what stuck out too was adding a few of Anakin’s lines in the space battle was a nice addition too.
Hal, amazing work and I look forward to your updates on the other movies as well.
Rogue One attempted to fix this continuity error by giving ponda a similar arm to the severed one shown in the Jedha scene.
Ady, I wonder if thats a change worth implementing in ANHR:HD? To change ponda’s hands BEFORE the arm is severed to match as opposed to changing the arm on the ground.
Would provide better continuity with Rogue One as well.
I’d rather cut the cameo out of Rogue One myself.
Agreed. Ady’s approach is the best approach in my opinion logically on what happens during that scene anyway.
That is an interesting thought, I wonder though if it makes it a “harder” sell that the group gets a ship to leave without any piece of the chase. As your edit stands, they go down the pipe and later you see them in a ship. One can conclude they used the “sewer” to get out and get DJ’s “borrowed” ship.
If I recall correctly, it is just Finn and Rose at the stables … so by having the chase cut how can it be explained or even assumed in a some what natural sense they meet up with BB8 and DJ.
Again not trying too shoot things down so quickly since I am too thinking out loud regarding it. I do understand having those moments may help motivate Finn a bit more and naturally before he makes his full dedication to the cause.
Wow that was fast, I wasn’t expecting it!
Will either the files or the folder indicate its version 6?
I apologize if some of my posts have been terse lately. Most of the time, the reality is that I only have one free hand to punch keys with. I appreciate the fervent discussion very much, because it makes for the best possible, most informed final product. I am also tossing around the droid factory in my head, but have no intention at all to reinstate the garage scene.
That’s alright. We all think your Star Wars work is fantastic and are contributing to help you make new versions/edits.
On a side note, if you were to include the garage scene, there is something that could be done that I believe only seciors has done. That is to put the scene in a different spot.
ATTACK OF THE CLONES:
[Anakin Brings Shmi Back]>[Garage Scene]>[Shmi’s Funeral]SECIORS (ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC):
[Anakin Brings Shmi Back]>[Shmi’s Funeral]>[Garage Scene]
Haha, but seriously, I am glad Hal is going the direction of not reverting back to the garage scene in anyway.
Hal, we all understand and no problem, we all give different perspectives to help give you some ideas on your V6.
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:
How about:
Padme: “…as a member of the senate, maybe I can find a diplomatic solution to this mess.”
WIP PAN
Anakin and Padme handcuffed in the chariot.
😉
You know, if something this can be executed well, I’d be all for it!
Hahahah, that is pretty amusing and would be curious to see.
But please, the garage scene is completely unnecessary and goes against Anakin’s adjusted character through Hal’s edit. Watched the movies (minus LOE since ran out of time) and the wife said Anakin is such a whiney character and appreciated how it was toned down in TAS.
The droid factory scene that was edited is a big improvement from the original scene. I am going back and forth in my mind what would be better, that or the deleted scene … both have their pros and cons. However, the above suggestion would be interesting to see too.
Please no Greedo scene. It’s one of the few things I really don’t care for in l8wrtr’s edit. Honestly, all of the Episode I deleted footage looks pretty rough from a quality standpoint. The only scene I would include is Qui-Gon and Anakin discovering the probe Droid.
I agree with your comments, it is really too bad the deleted scenes were no in 1080 and polished up a bit. The Probe Droid scene does fit the narrative well since it shows why the two were running towards the ship for kind of no reason.
But yes, please, no Greedo scene!
Personally a no for me. Since one, the scene doesn’t really serve any purpose but a “Oh hey its Greedo!” and two, importantly it is another example of trying to shrink the Star Wars Galaxy. All these silly cameos and connections just make the whole narrative small when we are talking about countless galaxies, planets, etc.