jarbear

Just finished the work print and man, this thing is looking really great. I like it a lot.

I can’t comment on the LUT since, well, Im a color blind guy but do like the direction of things.

I wasn’t too sure about the “flickering” lightsaber that Kewlfish has been posting, but I think I am sold on it. I like how it is more subtle compared to Kylo’s. I like it. I think it would add some nice depth to the whole movie.

As for the “duel of the fates” music on the wreckage, I agree with Hal’s approach personally. I would like to suggest maybe increasing the volume just a little bit? I like how it is not too loud, but maybe just a little louder?

Of course I have my own things that may be more in line with a personal edit after this is published are these minor things:

Reinstate the destructive power of the Imperial/Sith Star Destroyers - I know for a good bit of people didn’t like this idea in the movie of “great, more planet destroying things” but at the climax of a saga, of course the stakes have to be larger. By neutering the destroyers, it adds an issue when looking back at The Last Jedi and the dreadnaught. Visually speaking, we are comparing the Dreadnaught with these Destroyers since “Have big cannons that cause lots of damage.” In the Last Jedi, they used bombers to destroy the ship. In this movie, it’s target the guns to destroy it. So then … why didn’t Poe just destroy the canon on the dreadnaught? We have visually tied “Destroy the ships that have big-ass guns and it will cause them to be destroyed.”

That is why it worked though in the original idea of “Ships that have the power to destroy an entire planet.” Those guns have the power to destroy a planet, destroy those things? It would more than likely destroy the whole ship. If I was carrying a rocket launcher and a person shots the rocket launch, I would get blown up due to the energy stored in the rocket. If I was carrying a 50 caliber rifle, loaded, and someone shots the gun, I wouldn’t explode with the gun since those rounds do not have the same energy as a rocket. Again this is probably more of a personal thing, but it does in a sense undercut what happened in the last movie and the “logic” of this concept. (Then again, TLJ brought in hyper speed ramming, which the concept would cancel out any Death Star in the past since a large cruise could just ram into the dish of the Death Star and cripple it. Sigh, Disney.)

I changed my mind on mentioning the point I brought up about the corridor “Run and shoot” gallery since I probably could remove that on my own and hopefully not have any music issues.

idir_hh said:

StarkillerAG said:

Hal 9000 said:

Eventually, probably if Dom ever finishes his edit.

FTFY

Seriously though, what happened to him? He hasn’t posted much of anything for a while, and he hasn’t made any updates on his TROS edit for a long time.

He probably has a social life, unlike our hive of scum and villainy😂

He is probably still trying to get some power converters at the Toshi station and got lost.

Lol, every time I keep seeing the “Let’s put in the Fortnite broadcast/in part” I think of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pubd-spHN-0

I still just … don’t get it.

kewlfish said:

Neerb said:

“Is that your hand on my thigh?”

Hal 9000 said:

I think my favorite was “Is the Falcon yours now?”

I’ve seen a lot of people talk about how Rey has claimed the Falcon for herself, but I think we just assume that because she’s a human and the main character. In the actual movies, Chewie is the only character who is on the Falcon every time it flies in the Sequels, and he’s always one of the pilots too (Rey took a gunner seat in TLJ). I’m pretty sure the Falcon belongs to Chewie, and he’s just taken in Rey as his co-pilot since that’s what Han wanted. Rey does call it “Han’s ship” in TROS and not “Chewie’s ship,” but she clearly had a lot of reverence for Han (I wouldn’t be surprised if Chewie called it that too), and at the least that’s proof that she doesn’t think of it as hers.

I don’t know how much relevance this has, but the Smuggler’s Run ride at Galaxy’s Edge has you flying the Falcon on a mission from Hando, who said he was borrowing it from Chewie, not Rey. If you take that into context I would assume that Chewie has ownership.

Hahaha, true point … but Disney canon doesn’t even follow itself.

The idea was nice, but not going to work.

idir_hh said:

Hal 9000 said:

Oh yeah, and if anyone so inclined wishes to add a distant Vader’s castle to the reverse shot when Kylo picks up and looks at the Wayfinder, I won’t try to stop you.

One can mask this landscape into the background of that shot:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/75/c1/1b/75c11b8ae85a1c727c5b20b081beff2a.jpg

Showing that Kylo Ren’s slaughter happened below Vader’s Castle, perhaps where Anakin fell at the hands of Obiwan.

Simple solution: Someone superimpose a sign that says
“Vader’s Castle 1.3 miles
Darth Cupcakes 2.1 miles”

Man, I’m a problem solver!

Neerb said:

I think the problem jarbear has isn’t with the violence, but with the lack of tension. The heroes mow down trooper after trooper who should have had them dead to rights, all while running almost uninterrupted. It’s like they’re playing Battlefront with an aimbot.

Contrast with the similar scenes from A New Hope: the stormtroopers there still can’t hit our heroes (stormtrooper accuracy has been an irl joke for 40 years now), but the heroes are always either taking cover during firefights, or running away from the troopers trailing behind them. Meanwhile in TROS, the heroes are getting shot at from every single direction at the same time in a wide open hallway and are blowing away every trooper almost casually.

Unfortunately, I’m not sure an edit could do much about it without making the scene too short or choppy, and I certainly wouldn’t recommend removing it altogether. At least Poe gets a non-lethal wound and they get captured, so that while the combat itself lacks tension, the outcome does not.

Yep you get it. Everything else is fine enough, it’s just that one up close corridor scene as they are running down the middle ofthe hall way without issue. Just that one segment. If that could be removed cleanly it would be nice.

If the dialogue in certain areas for troopers could be adjusted, it would be good. Troopers are the cannon fodder, but it seems like especially in this movie they were at an even higher level.

One scene I would like to cut, though not necessary obviously, is the scene you see Finn and Poe running down a corridor and mowing down troopers. That short scene felt way to excessive and was really making troopers feel just … pointless … like if a group of troopers see two guys running down the middle of a corridor and no one could shoot one of them? Even one bolt? That little scene felt just too much. Yes they are the heroes, but even then, way too excessive.

TheAlaskanSandman said:

LeperMessiah117 said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

https://comicbook.com/movies/news/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-rey-palpatine-all-the-jedi-force/

Seeing this more and more

I actually saw somebody I follow link jonh’s clip in my twitter feed earlier this morning.

Really cool to see!! I don’t recall seeing Adywan’s stuff as often even

Adywan was polishing an already polished trilogy. Jonh was helping a turd fest … to be honest.

poppasketti said:

Snooker, very nice! Great to have you back!!

jarbear said:

Good point poppa. I do like it very much still.

How about this?! I think this feels more Star Warsy!
https://vimeo.com/435943397
pw: fanedit

You sexy man beast!

Good point poppa. I do like it very much still.

Already it’s much better than the TIES making the jump.

poppasketti said:

jarbear said:

Hal 9000 said:

Would it be possible for them to abruptly break apart, sort of like how a TIE in TFA breaks from chasing POE right after he enters the rip in the thermal oscillator? Like there’s no point going straight anymore since their prey is totally gone?

Yes! Please do this! We only need to see them quickly and not all of them.

Probably needs some tweaks, but something like this?
https://vimeo.com/435633035
pw: fanedit

Good start, I would actually have them stagger a bit and break off in different directions. When I say stagger, the first one breaks off the furthest down in one direction, the second TIE will break off course a bit sooner and at a different direction and the third sooner either the same direction as the first or second. They don’t have to be drastic break off departures, but depending on how many TIES are used for the shot, they all vary a bit or some more so than the others. It may make it feel more organic.

Hal 9000 said:

Would it be possible for them to abruptly break apart, sort of like how a TIE in TFA breaks from chasing POE right after he enters the rip in the thermal oscillator? Like there’s no point going straight anymore since their prey is totally gone?

Yes! Please do this! We only need to see them quickly and not all of them.

Change the line to Ice speed skipping. Done.

😉

If I was competent and could do CG work, I would think just making the TIES enter the shot and veer off course or something. I dunno … just the whole TIE thing is just so bad, it makes absolutely no sense and breaks how things work in Star Wars. It’s like this movie has a scene where water and oil do mix together perfectly.

You know, the whole conversation about light speed skipping can easily be assumed that’s it’s about not making calculations before the jump. Hence you “skip” a step, an important one mind you. That’s obviously both dangerous and could explain some damage to the falcon … also … it went through a wall of ice to make the jump… yeah that would also cause damage.

I still don’t like the TIES falling though. How can they chase them that quickly. Even in TLJ there was a gap in time before the Star destroyers arrived to the resistance since it’s a mix of tracking and calculations. (Book explained it was basically making calculations from gathering information from hyperdrive lanes or beacons or whatever and determines where they are. Maybe the best way to describe it as triangulating their position by taking information from those beacons they passed through SINcE THEY MADE CALCULATIONS that used those beacons!

So even by TLJ’s logic and reasoning, since they made this up, there’s no way those TIES can follow the falcon.

God that whole scene was so bad.

Hey, as long as the actually “light speed skipping” scenes are gone, whatever route works for me.

Disney, stop breaking Star Wars!

Fourth planet. Hmmm. Part of me thinks tatooine, The first planet we see in stars (movie release not episodic. Though we do go back there later, the crashing/destroyed destroyers need to be in inhabited planets that are significant.

Of course, we do go back there at the end, but I dunno what else to use.

Oh, that’s a nice idea Octorox … that could be a better fit. We the audience KNOWS the heroes are not going to die. Really simple.

So when in the movies did they explain how repulsorlifts work?

I should have specified in my comment in the movies they do not explain those kinds of things. Just leave it be. I kind of don’t care what books, comics, etc. say or explain or dive into certain topics, but just what the movies show.

Not related to that clip, but I would love to remove “16 hours” or other definitive amount of time on things. I appreciate the original and prequel movies do not give us an exact sense of time or how long it takes to travel by instead leaving it ambiguous. Why? How can you have precise timing when we are talking about space travel, hyper drives and other planets. (Time is not a constant thing in those circumstances, or at least how to measure it. Time is different on earth for example if you compare it to Mars.)

But this movie doubles down from Last Jedi to keep giving us EXACT amounts of time in HOURS. So Poe, Rey and Finn travel to how many planets? How much “time” do they spend traveling to each planet? How much of it is during their visits on planets? How much time it take Rey to travel on the “boat thingy” in a raging storm AND free hand climb the DSII wreckage? Or how long did it take Poe and Finn to fix the Falcon’s landing gears? Or how about Rey pondering over what she learned in her visions? How long were they all lost in the tunnels? Remember … all of that has to be LESS than 16 hours. Plus those are not all the events I listed.

Either these precise measurements should be removed, altered to more vague sayings or take out Palp’s timeline would be great. Having a timer does not really encourage the good guys to hurry up and stop him. Palp being alive now is already a threat and they are urgent to stop him. The thread of the empire is back and has a fleet that will take over the galaxy is a big enough threat in itself. Why have some silly countdown when having such precise measurements of time really takes you out of the “believability” of the movie when it doesn’t make sense.

Lucas was right to not dive into that topic or give such precise measurements of time.

Hal 9000 said:

I was disappointed in what the message turned out to be, as heard in the dumb video game tie-in. Sounds vague and useless.

You know why? Because it is. I just don’t get the appeal for it. I really don’t.

Nice work octorox!

Without trying to sound rude or condescending about the topic of the broadcast, but why do people want it in? The crawl tells us Palps sends out a broadcast about his return and the Sith’s revenge.

Yet, through the movie, or at least the first time we see both sides (First Order’s board room and Rebels after the get the intel) and the concept of some radio broadcast is not even mentioned, or let alone eluded too. A simple line from either one side (or both) could have said a simple line like “So the broadcast was true/real” or “So Palpatine himself is really behind it” could have made it relevant BUT it’s not at all. It’s ignored. Not even mentioned.

So what’s the point of it in the crawl? What’s the point of it at all if neither sides even mentions it. Heck, they are both SURPRISED or at least completely unaware that Palpatine is alive OR even the possibility of it. Really? Even after this mysterious “radio broadcast?” Not even a simple one line? There is no connection to it in the movie. Unless someone acknowledges it, why is it mentioned in the crawl? Let alone trying to put it in.

Anyway, I am really trying not to “talk down to anyone who likes it or wants it,” I just personally don’t understand the need for it since the movie itself doesn’t acknowledge it.

Plus it’s kinda over the top … at least to me personally.

Oye I hope I don’t sound like a jerk from all that.

EDIT: as for the extending Kylo’s thinking scene, if it can be smoothed out I like the to add a little breathing room.

For me, personally, the latest Orchi ship scene works well. Looks good and pretty believable.

The Mustafar scene just still doesn’t work for me, personally. My eyes see, even without being told, is not real footage. Especially the troopers out in the open. Another factor that takes me out is while they are stark white in the BF2 footage, they are not during the Kylo shots. Plus that scene is in slow mo that still feels odd from going to a scene “regular” speed on the ground from a wide shot to a up close and slow.

I appreciate the hard work involved, but it still looks off. I still prefer an edit that takes out the Mustafar opening and opens with Kylo exiting the nebula that poppa did some time back.

Again, that’s just me!