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#1370266
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Hey Hal still been playing around with adding some other line. I am not sure how great it will work. For kicks and giggles, I tried another attempt with this scene. It is rough for a few reasons, mainly my RIP from the blu ray can’t seem to come out clean and makes the video a bit choppy and kinda … i dunno, weird-ified. So my timing may not be great with what I did since I literally “can’t see” frames. But what do you think?

https://vimeo.com/449780343
PW: fanedit

Here is my rational after watching the video:

  • Prior to this scene, we see Poe make the jump through a wall of ice (may or may not have been light speed, but for the audience, we assume that’s what he does.)

  • So when Rey and Finn are talking, Chewbacca roars. I am implying he said “Poe made the jump through an ice wall!” Remember, he was not too happy/shocked with Poe’s thinking of “How thick do you think that ice is?” since that was pretty dangerous and gutsy.

  • I overlay Poe saying RIGHT at the end of the roar his line about "Well i got us through/safe or whatever he says.

  • Rey looks over towards Poe and we cut to her walking towards Poe and starting the argument about the dampers.

  • Rey says you can’t light speed/ cut that part and have Poe jump up and say “Apparently I can!”

I was implying she was bout tot say “you can’t light speed jump through an ice wall!” … a further extension from Chewy since we see he wasn’t too keen about Poe jumping through the ice and extending that from his roar at the base.

So that’s my logic since we SAW Poe jump through an ice wall and that was understandably dangerous. Also, we see he hit a wall while flying the falcon too. He is rough with the ship … so no wonder we see it in bad shape.

I am hoping this is not making too many assumptions for the audience, but we the audience see that:

1.) Poe is rough on the falcon.

2.) Jumps through and ice wall despite Chewy’s protest.

3.) We have not scene a ship make the jump THROUGH a solid object before.

EDIT: Another logic I just thought of, since she talks about the “downed dampers” that could have been her next argument of “You can’t Lightspeed-” … “without the dampers” could have been another logic to it. Poe cuts her off since he is already annoyed, his mood and demeanor screams of that. Kind of like “Hey, we are here and I’m at least doing something” attitude which he laters takes a swipe at Rey about not “helping” as the best fighter.

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#1370228
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

No anikin at the end.

As much as I hate how this entire new trilogy takes a dump on all the previous trilogy’s lore, what’s done is done.

What Jonh has done with the Palpatine “duel” is great and Is the best that can be done of adding Anikin, and the others, without it being a blatant fan service since it contributes to the scene in a meaningful way.

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#1370126
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

hedgesmfg said:

jarbear said:

Hal 9000 said:

Yeah, if there’s an appropriate sounding “come on,” that would work. Leads into his, “We just landed, okay?”

I don’t have the original cut of the movie at the office, but Finn does say “come on” during the last briefing that was cut since he refuted the 1 in a million shot.

EDIT: The only issue is there is music in the scene and it overlaps with the line. The tone and delivery is good for this idea though. Dang.

Couldn’t you open the multi-track audio file and extract just the dialogue, or at least the dialogue with as little music as possible (if the dialogue track is itself not isolated)?

With the right mixing, it doesn’t seem like it’d be too hard if you know the timestamp. I just did this for the narration of the introduction in my Clone Wars movie edit.

I am an über noob, I just got iMovie and am not a big time video editor. If anyone can isolate that, it could be helpful. Also, I could use the “rey” he used that was cut from the scene, lower the sound and try to mess with it so it sounds like he is approaching the group.

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#1370104
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

Here is a quick mock up with some walking sound. I hope this will help us “hear” Finn coming. Also, to make sure the sound isn’t isolated to just his appearance, I added walking sound with all three walk away too.

https://vimeo.com/449436899
PW: fanedit

I would like to add a line some point during the “you are difficult” part or something. Or even earlier where you can here Finn in the background.

EDIT: Oh, the new Naboo shot looks great! That’s the best yet.

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#1370097
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

Hal 9000 said:

Yeah, if there’s an appropriate sounding “come on,” that would work. Leads into his, “We just landed, okay?”

I don’t have the original cut of the movie at the office, but Finn does say “come on” during the last briefing that was cut since he refuted the 1 in a million shot.

EDIT: The only issue is there is music in the scene and it overlaps with the line. The tone and delivery is good for this idea though. Dang.

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#1370065
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

There are some free walking/running on leaves sounds to play with, I’ll see if I can mess around with it … gotta convert the video file to work for iMovie here at the office.

It doesn’t have to be super loud, but enough you can get a sense of movement and I would see if there is some kind of line to use like “hey” or “come one” or something that goes from soft to louder really quick just so we get SOME presence he is coming into the scene, even if it is quick.

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#1370036
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

Hey watching Workprint 5 … I gotta say, its so refreshing with the removal of the lightspeed skipping scene and the 16 hour timer. Praise the Maker!

Initial thoughts thinking about the Poe/Rey/Finn conversation, maybe it would help to add some walking in leaf sounds and even some kind of Finn line or something that goes from a “far” away sound to “closer”? It may make that feel a bit more natural with him “suddenly” appearing.

Still watching so I’ll keep posting some thoughts.

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#1369883
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

Hal 9000 said:

Okay, having thought about it some more and letting a break take place first, I will reiterate my prior decision to edit out the mention of lightspeed skipping. I think this is less distracting overall. It’s a tough call and you can make a good case for either route.

In other news, Skenera sent me a great Naboo shot based on snooker’s output without the SD and explosion elements. I will include this in the workprint, which I hope to have ready by the weekend.

Both of those statements sound good to me, I think that sequence with the crew and the Falcon is “less problematic” with it’s jumpy-ness compared to the DSII stuff. However, even with that I am fine with that too. I am ECSTATIC that Light Speed Skipping and Gooney Dagger are dead. So glad.

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#1369676
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

As for the dialogue about light speed skipping, IF it had to be left in, couldn’t one refer to making the jump WITHOUT the calculations? He SKIPPED the calculations.

Of course, I also understand it could be viewed as “sloppy” to leave in that dialogue for a fan edit, I am personally “ok” with leaving the dialogue since it could be implied making the jump without the calcs.

Or my ice speed skipping comment from some time ago could work. 😉

Granted, it would be ideal if it that scene can be edited smoothly with its removal.

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#1369308
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

Admittedly, if I could get a custom crawl that changes the wording for the last paragraph worded something like “Kylo found the last piece of the puzzle … dark whispers … something something … mysterious planet … yada yada …” I would totally go with the removal of the Mustafar Minute in my own personal edit. But I have no skill. Doh!

Anyway, back to Hal’s edit and the previous conversation of the LUT, I do agree with the 50% deblue version that seems to be the consensus. Seems like the right balance. Now we just need Jonh to correct is priorities and work on this Star Wars Fan edit and give Luke a hair cut! ;P

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#1368903
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

I appreciate the motivation of adding music cues, but I do agree with Hal, in that music is pretty much associated with Jar Jar and mesa got some bad vibes from dat.

Although I can appreciate music cues, but it shouldn’t be used “for the sake of filling in gaps.”

Limiting/not having music cues/notes/sounds/etc. is just as important as using them. It’s a balancing act.

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#1368726
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

https://imgur.com/a/52sxApT

Playing a little more with the Vader Castle idea. I am at the office and using GIMP … not great with it. So this is ROUGH.

The thought is to make it way in the background and have atmosphere distortion. We can see the castle since its on top of some cliffs to give it alleviation. Granted, this is super rough concept and would need some serious touch up on the video. But having it way in the back, distorted with atmosphere but “we” can see the shape of it would help sell it.

The location of it seems right since it is far away and not “looming over them/us” since watching all the clips, angles, etc., there isn’t a real way to make it “suddenly” appear close to us in context of the Mustafar Minute. Having it behind Kylo grasping the Wayfinder allows us to see it, but at a distance, so it doesn’t “interfere” with anything.

It needs softer edges, probably lowered a bit and better coloring to match the atmosphere … but could be doable.

Sorry my writing skills suck.

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#1368300
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

Knight of Kalee said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Drakul said:

Man last I check there were 12 pages… I have a lot to catch up on lol

I feel you lol

btw did you guys figure out the Vader castle scene? (To the Op and thread)

It seems no one’s tackled it yet.

Once I did a very rough concept of where the castle would be placed, but that would be it.

That was the spot I was thinking (scene, not location of castle) where it could work. From the scene before that shot, I would not have it on the right side since you do get a glance of the sky that direction that is blank. I would try the far left side, shrink it down a bit that has some of the opacity removed and the smoke helps hide it a bit so its “there” but not too obvious to avoid a “LOOK AT ME!” vibe maybe?